>There is one thing not to do, and that is simply to drift along with the daily routine, making no extra effort. You will soon find yourself middle-aged, having done nothing more than routine jobs, and being little farther along than you were years ago. The extra effort is the difference between the great mass of mediocre artists and the comparatively small group of very good ones.>And in Art, study can never stop. You will find sketches galore in the studio of the good man, with the paint quite fresh. The mediocre artist's sketches are old and dusty.>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.- Andrew Loomis, Creative Illustration/Studies/ General is all about improving your art and never settling for mediocrity. Every artist is a student, forever and ever. Anybody, from beginner to pro, can post here. Any style is accepted. Critiques are welcome and encouraged. Let's make this a productive thread!Read the fucking sticky: http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Recommended Resources:https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewLast Thread:>>7062670
>>7169668I wish that cunt would stop shitting up this general and stick to /beg/.
>>7169509Then there must be some misunderstanding here - I try to do memory copies more than a week later after I originally copied it, I have not previously “shown my work” before this, but I can show you the exact plates that I’m trying to reproduce from memory, and wherever I can’t (which is often), I am trying my damndest to substitute in some type of remotely close set of shapes that I can muster up that will still represent that I had learned something from copying said plate in the first place.Top left is a pair of legs I tried to style after doing a Norakura copy, Top right is a Loomis head with part of Mustang's outfit from FMA, Bottom left was me trying to roughly capture the shape of a Taco head + adding hair to it which I've also copied from Paryi (though hair has not come very naturally to me so I don't remember much from the copies I did of him weeks ago, as I've also gone back to grinding just pure anatomy again)All memory copies / best memory reproductions I've done here were done more than 24 hours after the original plates were copied.
The Pawell of /stud/.
>>7168981sword edition>>7168999I feel like I'm getting carried by the model in these ones. I still fall for the trap of trying to draw outlines too closely. I think it's quite hard to let go and only draw S and C curves. The worms in my brain do not permit this.>>7169341You flatter me. I still aspire to the simplicity your gestures elicit. I have to spend hours to make something look like it was perhaps a quick sketch. Maybe I have to look into timed poses.>>7169485>>7169761>>7169153I guess my 2 cents to add onto the other anon would be to forgo the memory drawing part and only focus getting an exact copy at first.Learning anatomy (Bridgeman, Hampton, etc.) will do you no good because you still would have to recall the exact proportions of a muscle or simplified shape you would want to implement. Currently the fundamental that would benefit you the most is proportion or accuracy.I believe that the best way to practice this would be to find lineart artwork (not a real life picture) and try to copy that. Like the Igor Stravinsky exercise except you don't have to turn the image upside down and you can find something that appeals to you.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7170017I have to insist that I simply must be given more time to improve
Is there an art course or book that shows how to shade like the GOATS but in digital? When I use fountain pens and map pens on paper, it's not hard. When I try to do it in digital I don't know what the fuck to do to get same results. In fact, mangaka who do digital art have dogshit shading.
>>7169406Murata is shit at storytelling just like toriyama but they are both goats at drawing comics
>>7167621Just ink it in CSP with the g-pen.>>7169994https://youtu.be/tgDxzUNWgec?si=oabcLZ2gwIWJY-fC&t=1270Trad....Soul....
>>7167621Use screen tones and layer them to achieve variations in value. You can buy these from any Online art supply shop that sells japanese stationary although they are going to be expensive since most Manga artists just use digital tools for the same purpose. Clip Studio is the stardard for this as it comes prepackaged with an extremely large library of templates.
>>7170069>just like toriyamaCounterpoint
>>7170069>toriyama is shit at storytelling...in the opposite dimension.
A thread for recommending and sharing brushes/digital art assets.>Publicly editable rentry for CSP assets. Feel free to contribute brushes you have purchased. Assets that have been deleted from the store are also welcome to be uploaded here.https://rentry.org/CSP_materials>CSP assets store wishlisthttps://rentry.org/Brush_Wishlist>"What brush does this artist use?"/"What brush looks like this?"1.)Search "brush (from:artisthandle)" or "assets.clip-studio.com (from:artisthandle)" on twitter if that's where they post mainly. Make sure to set it to the Latest tab to see the artist's tweets. Or use Nitter.2.)Search brush posts on their Pixiv Fanboxes/Booth/Patreon. Then try to see if it's on kemono or archives.3.)If none of the searches work, then ask here.>"My CSP is cracked so I can't use the asset store"As long as you log into the asset store it works even on cracked copies.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Requesting these impasto brushes (3 USD) please:https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/d5PB/impasto-natural-oil-brushes-for-ps-cs5
>>7169792 buy them , zip 'em and use mediafire right?
Does anybody know what type of brush @B_OX_MOD1 uses or a similar feel? i know there is some kind of random jitter and opacity but I'm just confused.i noticed that this artist has extremely fast output and i'm curious if it's because of his brush,I'm always fighting with my sketches to make them look good and move to a good line, I'd appreciate any suggestions,(My art below)
>>7170045
>>7169957Yep! Pretty much!
Are there any books for beginners on how to draw in the classical academic way? I like how the French and Italian masters of the past drew band sculpted the heroes of ancient Greece and Rome and I also like Frank Franzetta's style, which is quite similar, so can you recommend books based on that as wellI love beauty and lifeful dramatic scenes
>>7169101NO AND THEN
>>7169357This a perfect example of how people who don't know anything just cobble together a bunch of memes they've heard parroted elsewhere.>Solomon J. Solomon's book on Oil Painting is in-fucking-valuable. First class, and picks up from where Bargue more or less leaves off.Solomon J. Solomon's approach to drawing is literally diametrically opposed to the Bargue approach. SJS recommends you do a contour drawing (literally just copying the outline of an object through observation) and then use that first piece you put down as a comparative measurement for the rest of the drawing, checking things like horizontal and vertical alignments to keep everything proportional.Whereas with the Bargue method you start with a simplified block in, focusing on the largest shapes first completely ignoring the contour until the last stage.>SJS is English, but he was trained by the french academic system. There was never such a thing as the "french academic system". There were tons of private ateliers which each had a different approaches and mostly provided personalized instruction rather than some sort of generalized study plan. Things like Bargue (but also the Julien system) are a later development and not characteristic of the french atelier scene of that time. And to the OP, you will never be able to paint like that. You're literally competing with people that had private instruction from the age of 15 by experienced artists in a time, place and culture where that particular way of drawing and painting was highly developed. If you're at the "how do I draw, better ask /ic/" stage you've already lost. It's like asking "how do I become Mike Tyson" on /fit/. You having to ask that in the first place means you're not on a life path where you're even close to capable of achieving that goal.
>>7168085I could swear there's a book specifically about the classical drawing method, like that particular look to the heads, but no one has mentioned it here.Though I don't remember what it is either, so fat lot of help I am.
>>7169822>Solomon J. Solomon's approach to drawing is literally diametrically opposed to the Bargue approach. SJS recommends you do a contour drawing (literally just copying the outline of an object through observation)Not him;he indeed seems to argue against **rushed** block-ins, but:> I looked at the cast, my eyes almost closed, and then drew the space, under A, lying between the neck and the jaw, a little island of black, treating the shape of it as I would a freehand drawing.> https://archive.org/details/practiceoilpain00sologoog/page/n29/mode/2upMeaning, he identifies shadow shapes, and refine from there. While Bargue plates are commonly presented with a not-so-rushed block-in, we don't know for sure whether the student was expected to draw them before proceeding: that's the common modern interpretation, but we could argue that it's not the author's intention.For example, consider the unfinished arm of picrel, drawn by a student working at Gérôme's atelier: the state of this arm is basically a simple light-shadow dichotomy, as exemplified by almost all the simple Bargue plates. More refined plates build from this dichotomy and add details.Image from https://ramonhurtado.com/19cdatabase>There was never such a thing as the "french academic system".Indeed in the usual sense. But there was, and still is, an academy originally established by a king, originally meant to encourage a certain degree of technical excellence.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7169663funny movie>>7169822>you will never be able to paint like that I didn't say I wanted to be a painter or a master of arts or whatever, I just want to draw because I want to draw what comes to mind, I don't want to be a professional, I just want to draw wellare you going to help or just babble?
No /TRAD/ general? Aight, this will be the trad general. Post your recent trad artworks/WIPs in this thread.I will begin. Will really appreciate critiques.
>>7167625Better than the Obama portrait at least.
Twisted Tree.Just an idea that came to me driving through the rocky hills north of Los Angeles. Ink and Paint.
>>7167625>I want you to make it look like I'm burning in hell.>Say no more.
>>7118726Did a quick watercolor painting today
>>7167056Very good work, but may I ask what your goal is with this? If this just practice, then doing smaller pieces is much more productive.
Previous thread: >>7154362>Link: https://dad.gallery>Discord: You must have a DAD streak of at least 14 to join. Ask Vastian for an invite.>Found an issue with the site? Lost your streak and want to appeal? Please message the contact link at the bottom of the site instead of posting in the thread.Rules:>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission>No loli or shota porn>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!>Have fun!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Sorry for commentin on so many ppls work atm
>>7169981>giving so many comments>but skipping meI'll never forgive you ;_;
>>7169989I will find u dammitI WILL! ; - ;
thanks for skipping mine. I'm too autistic to reply
Couldn't sleep. Smoked dope.Got silly.
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The smaller form of my Ice Oni Woman Kanagi. I still need to figure out how to give the Kimono a kind of Frozen over effect on the parts were it touches the Skin. She has a Daughter and a Husband btw
>>7167699>she has a daughter and a husbandNTR time (me as the bull)
How does one lewd a oc that has a ghost tail without drawing anything that resembles legs or settling with the mouth/chests/hotdoging?
Do you practice urban sketching regularly? Practicing urban sketching is the only thing that gets me out of the house, and it has been essential for me to improve my freehand drawing and observation. I usually only carry 3 fine line pens and a sketchbook, but I'm thinking of getting some watercolors. I usually go to squares that aren't very busy, as I still have difficulty dealing with crowded environments. It's a very positive and therapeutic activity. I used to be very depressed, but when I'm in crisis I always take my materials and go out to draw, regardless of the time of day. I don't think about making beautiful or perfect drawings, I just let the stream of consciousness flow and capture the essence
>>7164974>imagine not jumping everywhere in Skyrim just because the NPCs would think you're weirdoblivion*skyrim doesn't have acrobatics skill
>>7157058How does the quality compare with phone camera? I assume webms are compressed.
>>7167445it's as good as a 640x480 image can be, the webms are compressed but the original footage isn't that much better
>>7130968Pride was his downfall. He also looks like a douche when jamming out.
Finally Friday, tomorrow I plan to go to a lake to draw. Can someone recommend a good watercolor that isn't too expensive?
How do you go about shading a line artwork?
is this guy amd the pixel art gifs guy same ? >>7156564yeah this one is nice
>>7168342I see Lady Dimitrescu here. Hot big ass, big hat. And the claws.
>>7168342
what do you call this artstyle?
Bro is a goblin
>>7170030soul generation vs souless zoomer generation
>>7169625noseless zoomerjak
>>7169625mspaint meme core
>>7170043Hold on, am I soul and you're souless, or am I souless and you're soul?Depending on your answer, I'm coming to your house to either kiss you on the cheek, or kick you in the nuts.
Why You Should Copy Anime:https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpgNaoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw**Strive for quantity AND quality.**Anime Studying:>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.General Anime Style Discussion:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>7167746that torso ass perspective
>>7158851nta but I see the breast shape begins closer to the armpit and both should have similar volumethe exaggerated curves in arms and legs also make it look cuter
What do you think about zark muckerberg
>>7169811I think it belongs on /alt/ not here.
The Russian academic approach is that you learn to constructively understand things so well that your imagination drawings can be anything you want effortlessly, right?Makes sense, but proko was trained in the academic style and his imagination drawings suck? He seems to need a model or reference to draw the simplest things
>>7169103It's primarily based on how my art improved overnight after actively working on my visualization>>7169120Korean names all sound the same "hyung boo woo la wo gon gi"
>>7169984>Korean names all sound the same "hyung boo woo la wo gon gi"Koreans are white skinned, charismatic and beautiful, japs are dark skinned, cringe-retarded and ugly, aka jiggers.
>>7169991Are you just mad that Japan fucked Korea so hard? Koreans and the Japanese are slave workers, the Koreans have it even worse.>BeautifulAfter 20 plastic surgeries lmfao
>>7169276>tinfoil lunatic catalogues random threads going back 5 years>i-it's all one agent, maaaan,, internet is dead, maaaaaaan!!
>>7170004Those were randomly fetched with a quick search. Many are missing;I've been there for maybe 5 or 6 years, I saw that thread quite often.It's not just the that also anon. For example the Sorolla thread, say you report it and for once the janitor did their job. One or two days later you'd see a new Sorolla thread, same pic, and within the first few posts someone baiting the pedo thing again.Same with the "where the dog at" thread, same with Pollock, etc.If my memory's correct, there are unarchived /ic/ periods.
Is it fair, bros?
>>7163546The issue I guess is it's literally the same pic, just painted. AI is really no different than copying a artists style and mixing it with you're own. Like all the sakimi copycats and all that
>>7164229i think there's difference between two, the internet hyper realists that just autistically print out the image and those who can actually construct the image and understand the way it works
>>7168932That’s not really true. A lot of non-photographers don’t realize how much professionals design the lighting, pick costumes, perspective, travel, make camera/lens choices, etc. Then there’s photo editing which has been done since the 19th century. It's part of why drawing copies of photographs is seen as unskilled. Because the photographer has made all of the artistic decisions already.
>>7168578Take your meds.
>>7163533> defending or pretending to defend deviantart tier plagiarismAnd this is how you know /ic/ has turned to trash
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>>7168912Seconding this
Does anyone knows how to actually translate books pages with DeepL or something like that?I swear I saw a guide here already but forgot to download.
>>7169978There was a script posted here last year but it doesn't work anymore. Hopefully it will get an update.Meanwhile, you can upload images on https://translate.google.com/ but you have to do it one page at a time.
>>7169876cmere lemme kiss u mmmuuahhh
Good days, kind people. Coulsbanyone provide with pic rel?Thank you
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>>7169328Oh shit missed to join this canvas. People draw some amazing stuff pretty fast now
