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/v/irgins, I come to you in an hour of need.
I have been struck by a queston I cannot find the goddamn answer to, because trying to research the history of how things were sold in the past, rather than now, is hard.

What was the first MMO to do the "If you buy the most recent expansion, you get all the previous ones", and at what point in time did they do it?
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>>1282922
Depends on what an "mmo" is to you. I think it started with season passes or definitive editions. Idk the answer for mmos but valve started with dota 2 for season passes and tf2 for loot crates. Total annihilation started live service/free dlc.
Neverwinter nights started the first major paid dlc, Redneck rampage started paid dlc overall.

Ultima Online was the first micro-transaction mmo.

Hopefully some of this helps you with a lead.
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>>1283093
I specifically mean the trend where an MMO releases a big paid title expansion pack, but then makes previous expansions come free with the latest one OR making all but the latest expansion able to be accessed with just the base game.

Like with WoW you originally had to buy the base game + the burning crusade + wrath of the lich king at one point, but at some point they switched to "If you buy base WoW you get the base game, if you buy the latest expansion you get ALL expansion content"

the removal of "buy each expac separately", once the biannual expac had become normalised.

I'm having trouble specifically finding which MMO(s) first started that practise, sorry if it was worded poorly.
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>>1282922
why did you post a picture of toontown
nigger come do a vp already.
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>>1283104
I think that started in 2022 with wow, looking at online discussion around that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comments/nh5i3s/the_weekly_discussion_should_expansions_be_sold/

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>>1239589

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It's good
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>>1281997
1080p monitors can come in hz above 144 you can even go to 240+ if youre obsessed enough. finding stuff in 165 or 180 is kind of common
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>>1281997
went down this pipeline when Valorant released, got a new mouse, monitor, and moved for better internet.
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QUICK SOMEONE DOORDASH GRIMZ SOME CHIPOTLE STAT
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>>1140510

Been loving the Dust 2 come back, real OGs can turn this map into a serious win streak

Then comes that zoomer faggot who cries in chat for us to pick Mirage because apparently he's a beast on it and never loses

We pick it just for lulz, we get raped by a team of spergs prefiring everyone and toggling the minute they get behind on the score board, there goes my 10 games win streak. A 2-stack duo in that team, one account with zero history and comments filled with people calling him a cheater literally knowing our position no matter what and getting kills through smokes, the other guy always waiting for us somehow with the negev and clapping us.

I avoid Mirage just because that map has all the bottom barrel scum of CS, from cheaters to actual retards larping as pros yet always end up with shit stats.

Bunch of fucking retards in this game
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>>1267198

You guys were saying the exact same shit when CSGO changed the meta completely from CSS back in 2012. Eventually CSGO's meta became fun and people started really getting into it 2014 onwards. It took a good 3 years for CSGO to become a top tier game, before that you had a shit esports scene and people complaining constantly.

Even NIP did the longest win streak on the competitive scene in 2012-2013 with over 80 wins back to back, and teams were always abusing some kind of glitches and weapon issues to get an upper hand up until 2017 or so.

Give it time, they'll build up on it. It's way too big of a cash cow for them not to make the changes the community wants anyways.

hey so i currently run a semi large anarchy server along with a couple other little servers

the network i do dev work for (where i have a fair amount of say and can make these types of proposals) wont let me run an anonymous minecraft server and i'm debating doing it on my own money, time and resources, but want to see if anyone would be interested

the simple premise:

- cracked server
- all users are named like "user 1234"
- ip/logs turned off on the server level
- unknown gamemode (could do anarchy, plots, idk)
- server hosted in moldova, the "iceland of europe"

it'd basically be a chatroom with minecraft gameplay as an option. other people on my network said it was too risky for them to support but supported me doing it anyway on my own time.

i just don't wanna put all the work in if the server's stupid and will idle at 0 players

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>>1282652
I would be down, but, keep in mind that anarchy is a very fine balance. Things that make anarchy mc fun:
>considerable server history to explore and be a part of
>The right balance of plugins and moderation that allow player creativity and expression without allowing things that completely destroy the server
>some semblence of consequence or reason to do things.
I implore you to dig through salc1 and fitmc to get an idea of what you want from your anarchy server. It is essentially game design.
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>>1282652
Fuck yeah, count me in
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thanks all i'll set it up and report back
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>>1283076
Please do, I'll check often to see if it's done
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hey all, this is OP, i'm just about done with the INITIAL plugin (it's very basic, but is fully anonymous and holds up to all the promises. it's IRC-style)

IP is onionmc.net and will be up within the next hour. server is cracked, i suggest using a username you don't normally use, even though they're anonymized, i have not disabled logging on the server yet for debugging reasons

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ITT: Random browser games you and maybe 15 other people know about
picrel
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Naruto Arena
turn based strategy with rng elements

Just got revived shortly before I got a craving to play it again after like 14 years.
it's fun to unlock new characters and figure out good comps, it's pvp only though.
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Not one person mentioned well of souls? Jesus christ man I really don't belong here anymore
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>>1264183
shame about all the grind to unlock new cards
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Torn City, but its actually incredibly active with over 40k daily players and 8k online at all times, super PvP focused.
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https://oneslime.net/

/vm/craft is the unofficial 4chan Minecraft EarthSMP server, using a 1:500 recreation of Earth as the map.

Chat reporting is disabled, allowing everyone to engage in freedom of speech without getting their account banned.

Current map opened in December 2022. Since then, several thousand players have joined and we have had several years of history, politics, and lore.

>IP: vmcraft.me
>live territory map: vmcraft.me in browser
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>>1272502
No, it's been alive since December of 2021 don't worry about it
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>>1272502
Look, here's my advice: worry about yourself and stfu
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>>1271253
Black Lives Matter, justice for Travon Martin and George Floyd, fuck you, this is an offical BLM server where we don't support racist ass people like you
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This is the best server which has ever existed, I rate this 13/10
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This is the greatest server humanly possible. If you don't rate this 10/10 you need to have your mind evaluated

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What are some of the most racist fortnite skins? Explain why.
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anything with a white character because white skin is the root of all evil and tyranny and oppression and destruction

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I know there have always been cheaters in the game, but nowadays I encounter one every three games, and it's impossible to play the game. The worst part about it is that after the match against me, they will keep playing because they know that VAC won't do anything about it. The player in the screenshot, for example, has a 3-year-old account and started cheating after only 2 rounds. He probably has been cheating for years, but there's nothing I can do about it. I don't know if the reports send go directly to a shredder machine or what.
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I think a big part of the cheating being out of control in CS2 is because Valve has been working on some AI based anticheat for a while. To get anything AI related to work you need huge data sets.

So letting cheating run rampant and collecting as much data as possible on what types of cheats are detected makes sense on a strategic standpoint. Also planting cheat commands like that wall hack that got retards banned on faceit is another nice trick to collect data and flagging players.

I suspect they will roll out the anticheat with the next operation and we will see a huge ban wave around the release date. That's my guess though, CS2 is a huge cash cow for them and they confirmed at the major in copenhagen that the anticheat is their priority right now.

Only thing people should expect is a more invasive anticheat, like the one in Valorant and faceit. I think they will say fuck privacy and force this type of anticheat on their players in the future considering the source SDK basically is a factory for cheats for any dev with decent IQ.
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>>1274114
>I think
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>4 man from mexico on my team in premiere
>they are too stupid to ban the enemy team's best map for some reason
>we obviously lose
>they report me
>2 day cooldown
what the fuck , uninstalled.
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>>1273484
Big sad but Big true. This has become my stance as well. My dream was to go pro too but had to swallow that black pill.
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>>1261095
Reminder that cheaters always have the advantage against anti-cheat programs. It's not like Valve can just push a big button that says "Stop cheaters". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgkgsgaBBCA And just remember, whatever super big brain idea you have either will not work, or can actually be used by the botters/cheaters to get rid of legitimate players.

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Anyone playing on any of the private servers, Homecoming, Thunderspy, Rebirth, etc.? Made any meme characters or cool OCs you want to share?

Please no server feud autism.
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>>1273149
>>1278613

And also, TonyV had nothing to do with Paragon Chat. That was CodeWalker. So you're not even correct on basic details. Please shut the fuck up.
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>>1277779
The posts about stroyer are nothing but headcanon.
>he prepared for it
He decided one day he was done with the server and that the people running it were scum.
> Even by gamer standards, Stroyer had almost NO interpersonal skills, and he seemed well aware of this
Something like this just goes to show you are bullshitting and trying to add credence to your retelling of the story.

I would ask you what drives you to lie, but it's obvious you're mentally ill an desperate for attention. The one guy who actually released genuine proof of the server existing and you're trying to pretend like he's an asshat. Kill yourself.
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>>1278693

He didn't even do that. He made the videos for his friends, and they happened to get found by a user on the SEGS discord. Him coming forward was literally a direct result of being hungry for clout when he saw his opportunity. Otherwise, he would have let it go.
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A nearly two month old thread. Wild.
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>>1204789
they keep scrambling my vegeta

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DAWNTRAIL INFO:
>Early Access - Friday, June 28, 2024 (2:00 AM PDT)
>Release Date - Tuesday, July 2, 2024
>Promotional Site
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/dawntrail/
>Benchmark
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/download/

IN-GAME EVENTS:
>Final Fantasy XVI Collaboration (Until Wednesday May 8 at 7:59 AM PDT)
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/ffxvi/
>Yo-kai Watch Event rerun (Wednesday April 24 at 1:00 AM PDT until Patch 7.0)
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2024/youkai-watch/j9rq1fpxxd

GENERAL NEWS:

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67th for sunsluts
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>>1277672
hey...
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Hello, new player here, just finished downloading. What should I know? Are there mods that I should install?
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>>1282732
Just choose whatever race, gender, and job that appeals to you more and clear quests, anon. It's one long ride and you want to be comfortable doing it.

You won't need addons.
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>>1282918
Thanks

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Does anyone still play this?
I found out it's still alive a few months ago, but I don't know a single other person who plays it. Is there a guild I can join or something? I haven't touched it in like, 10+ years, so I may as well be a brand new player. I did claim that free quests coupon thing before it went away at least.
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https://www.ddo.com/news/ddo-year-of-the-dragon-april
>one free expansion
nice, glad I never bothered picking up Isle of Dread so I can get it free now
Feywild is also a great pick for an account that doesn't already have it
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>>1250975
Not anymore, since I don't have much time for vidya these days, even less so for mmos, but I would say it's one of the more interesting and better mmos.
So if you have some time, and since you have the quests and expansions for free, give it a try.
One of few games in Eberron setting too.
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>>1250975
I think my account might be a decade old too, probably created it when they went F2P.
Got some free packs. Was hoping for some more but they suspended the event due to bugs. There's a thread on their forums, seems like a few people are making fun of the devs since bugs get introduced after every maintenance.

https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?threads/year-of-the-dragon-npc-temporarily-disabled.11028/

I got invited to this guild on the default server, seems like the guy is just inviting every newbie that logs on.

>>1263609
Did you get it before the suspension?
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How much money am I expected to spend on the game? I remember becoming a VIP, played for a month then quit. I don't really feel like spending money again so I would most likely be F2P. I remember that you can earn coins to buy content.
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>>1282653
yeah, you can google favor farming for ddo points online.
don't worry about the whale bait in the cash shop, the only things that matter whether you want to spend money or not is the dlc.

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>Free to play
>On Steam
>Same great quality as the Puppet Master movies
>Few different game modes: puppets v puppets or puppets v humans or puppets vs puppets defending humans
>Play as the original puppets, demonic toys, totems, or survive as the humans

Been having a blast playing this and I hope it keeps gaining popularity

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>What is Advance Wars By Web?
AWBW is a fan-made site where you can play Advance Wars online against other players from around the world. It is primarily based on and plays like Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising with additional elements from Advance Wars: Dual Strike. This includes all units, COs, game mechanics, and more, for a completely unique Advance Wars experience.
https://awbw.amarriner.com/

AWBW is designed with the 'mail chess' concept in mind, where all players of a match take their turns whenever they are available to do so. This means that games can be played at your own pace, with support available for both short, live games spanning hours at most, or longer-lasting games taking place over the course of days or weeks!
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>>1277040
Lots of chatter, but no games.
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>>1277040
I missed the thread, at least we have 1 game going on.
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aiieeeee
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Lots of infantry on this match
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fellas
I think we need more landers

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Why are sandbox PvP MMOs always such a failure and will Ashes of Creation follow suit /vm/?
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>>1281261
i'm so fucking in love
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>>1271674

> Trusted gooks from korea not to just rugpull you after you spent thousands in their video game just so they release something else right after in an attempt to make you rinse and repeat the process

Archeage going offline is a bad day i feel you, but given the horrendous stats it had for years im actually surprised they didn't pull the plug sooner.

Game was close to perfection and had so much potential back in 2014 then they decided to go full korean retards on it.

Koreans are a double edged sword, they can make A tier games that can explode in popularity within a month and have them die a brutal death, all in the same year lol.

Those fuckers are ruthless rugpullers when it comes to gachapon gaming.
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>>1282268
Didn't Archeage die and resurrect multiple times already? Just like Bless? Seems like a good business strategy to just milk the same idiots with the same game, each time promising it'll be good.
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>>1282464

Base game died after devs were unable to update anything in the game due to korean devs holding the rights to the code.

Then base game moved to kakao games with even more pay to win shit added to it.

Archeage Unchained came which claimed no pay to win and split the remaining community into total irrelevance and the game has been having shit numbers ever since. Even on Unchained you have days with approx 10-20 people on the server.
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>>1238145
In my experience PvP in MMOs is always 100% gear dependent rather than skill, as an adult with a girlfriend, full time job, and an actual life everytime I've tried to PvP in an MMO I just get wrecked, not even because of skill but because I can't possible catch up to the grind

Can't even git gud in PvP MMOs. If I want to PvP i might as well play something like Team Fortress or Overwatch where it's somewhat of an even playing field

Looking for new friends to add me on xbox.

gamer tag: peelmobil
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Look for a job.


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