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You can't tell me one real pro of crop sensors. There's absolutely no point of APS-C when full frame exists. It's not as small, compact or economical as micro four thirds nor do you get the resolution and capability of FF. I guess it's just so that people can feel like they're larping as FF. FF is isn't even that much more expensive most of the time so being a poorfag is the only excuse

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>>4305780
>APS-C is pure copium
>tries to cope with m43
lmao dead mount
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>>4305780
>M43 makes sense.
I'm a brainlet, why is m43 better / different that aps-c?
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>>4309611
Because he's a gear collector and aps-c is just a touch too close to full frame, so he'd rather buy a much worse camera just to have more variety on his increasingly dusty photography shelf
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>>4309611
To be frank, micro four thirds has no point unless you think shooting wildlife with a telephoto that functions and renders like someone stacked TCs on full frame sounds appealing, or intend to spend <$1k on your camera and multiple lenses.
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>>4305986
>I'm selling my m43 lens collection
same, I decided to sell everything and get an used a7riii + probably a 40mm 2.5
After trying a lot of things I realized that I don't really care about the versatility and having several lenses to be able to shoot anything, I find it more stimulating to make do with just one prime and at this point I might as well go for the higher quality so I can masturbate over the details

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Is there like a deviant art for photography? What is a good photo app?
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>>4308708
You can't guess Flickr and Instagram?

>>4308712
>bump after 1 hour.
/p/ is a slow board. For context, 10 hours later your thread is on page 2.
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>>4308708
flickr might still be the best option desu
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Flickr is for photography, instagram is for advertising your personal "influencer" brand and getting exposure by convincing AI controlled profiles to latch on to you, 500px is for feeding chinese AI
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>>4309560
>Flickr is for boomer photography
fixed that for you
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>>4309609
>man these boomers
>whats their deal
>no likes, no follows
>they SHOW me shit in person instead of letting the AI decide if i'd like it first
>what faggots
>i dont need to talk to people i got chatgpt
Social media is cancer. banning it would cause mass shootings to halt and cause the return of real art(tm).

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some photos i took in thailand

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>>4309468
>So toxic
Fuji and sony users just crush their blacks too much and it looks like day for night in an amateur horror film instead of night

It's definitely a pattern. It looks very artificial, kind of like AI. And sometimes I worry they either do it not because all the other people on their subreddit/youtube feed do, but because they are trying to make an anti-HDR statement (meanwhile portra has 4 more stops of dynamic range than any fuji camera, sheesh)
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>>4309534
>Look at me, I shoot Film


I liked them photos, Anon. A friend of mine lives in Thailand and I mean to visit him for some time now.
>... first time that i actually took photos for myself, and it felt good.
Keep it up. It's a nice hobby, if you can ignore the bitter, cynical gearfaggots with their deranged pseudo elitism.
Probably none of these idiots actually ever uses a camera, they just know everything better about it.
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>>4309542
>Stop crushing your blacks it looks fake
>Reeeeee gearfags
My camera is a $250 micro four thirds
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>>4309563
I don't care
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Confirmed, stop crushing your blacks to shit

I cant even see half the photo if im not indoors with my phones brightness up

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and even though i as a 40 year old millennifart boomer often shit on gen-z i think it is kinda cool. Just imagine them going to whatever social gathering they are assembling in, bringing out all these cool semi-vintage digicams that nobody gave 2 shits about until recently..
The market is absolutely booming right now.. they want it all. The shittiest model you can imagine? Guess what.. they want it and they want to pay more than yesterday.
In certain niche markets these things sell for even above ebay prices which is insane.
Gen-z is unironically making photography fun again?
It is also quite interesting to think about the conditions that made this possible in the first place. So what happened exactly? My viewpoint is the following:
Younger Gen-z social media users have only used cellphones for photography.. they have finally realized that the platform has limitations.. they look at pictures their parents took of them when they were kids using digicams and want that particular look etc, meanwhile the large camera companies have completely neglected this market segment thanks to plebs only using their phones. just look at Canon for instance.. they haven't released a single Ixus model in 7 years and their last hoorah was nothing special in terms of specifications so we have to go back even further to find their high end models. Other companies have done the same.. there is nothing to be seen from the likes of Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Fuji, Samsung or any of the companies that for years made these ultra-compact and cool looking cameras.
It find it all really strange. You have a generation that simply loves this type of stuff and nothing to sell them. Just imagine these cameras with updated hardware, maybe some fresh colors and "limited edition" varieties.
Also feel free to post pics of cool digicams.
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>>4309164
>>4309482
Not if I can help it.
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>>4309187
For normies.. They are the ones buying all this crap and pushing the trends in the first place you know.
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16 years ago I was at Urban Outfitters buying a Diana F+ and recording bedroom pop to a Tascam cassette 4 track- shit doesn't change.
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>>4309511
>DX primes and fast zooms go to the moon because people actually want to use them and the advantage in real photography is tangible
>pieces of shit that only "ken f/11 and sat+3" rockwell would praise like this stay cheap
Calling it now
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>>4309539

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I've been shooting on a Canon 5DIV for the past few years. My shutter has been sticking and instead of sending it back, figure it's time to upgrade. Before this I was a Nikon shooter with the D700/D750/D800 and really liked it but switched to Canon mainly due to the f1.2 lenses and much better customer service in my country.

I rented an R5 and R6II and they were nice enough with the pro zooms and the 50 1.2 but after trying the Z8 and the small 1.8 primes, I really was reminded of what I missed about Nikon. AF was better, the camera bodies felt better and more "rugged", DR was better but in fairness comparing to a previous gen Canon R5. One thing I hated though was how hyuge the Nikon 50 1.2 was- and that's my go-to lens in any system.

Is Nikon doing better now as a company in listening to their customers than they did during the DSLR days? I think I read they were overtaken by Snoy so it must be a kick to the nuts to be #3 now.
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>>4305599
I'm looking at uncorrected 50mm 1.2 GM files made on my Z9 and not seeing that level of light loss.
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>>4299475
my thoughts are that you should replace that 5D Mk 4 shutter

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>>4305599
Every time I read Niggor I chuckle and makes my day just a bit better, and this one was good. Thank you anon, godspeed to you and your big black Niggor lens collection
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>>4305100
worked photo retail for about a decade, and from that perspective, sony had by far the best store support for my region (most sponsored events & workshops, rep visits, relatively few supply issues), greatest spif / commission paid of any of the brands, greatest employee purchase programs / discounts
a lot of employees switched over around the a7II/III generations and never looked back, and the incentives to push sony are just too good
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>>4305599
>NIGGOR

Kek. I want to change my lens font to this so I get a chuckle every time I look down at it.

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What is a good one? I've had this case for damn near 20 years and I don't see a reason to upgrade. It's vintage, and chicks dig it.

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Also known as the fanny moisturizer
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>>4304929
I used a messenger bag in college, it messed up my shoulder and posture
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>>4304621
>Rubber feet need a rigid base to keep the center of the bottom from touching the floor,
Can't this be solved by the bag just using tougher, but still flexible, material, or using longer rubber strips instead of individual feet? My 15 year old Canon bag has that, big chunky rubber 'runners' on the bottom, and it's really darn nice for setting down the bag on a wet or shitty area (think the floor of a car in winter time) without the bottom getting soaked through even without proper waterproofing.
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is it wise to buy a small bag to put inside of a backpack that can fit it? i dont wanna walk around a city with a bag that screams "really pricey camera inside"
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>>4309411
Why not? As long as the camera is safe.

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>all of the cameras use a sony sensor
>doesn't matter the price, even at $8000 you get a snoy in a box
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>>4307996
Canon also seem to use those type 1 Sony sensors.
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>>4307994
The sensor is a monochrome photon counter, nothing more, and sony builds them to client specs under sony's rules. It's often not the same sensors they use in their own cameras, which is why you dont see nikon using the a7riv or a7iv sensor ever and they've been using revisions of the d750 and d850 sensors instead.

CFA specs and signal processing, which actually matter for more than signal to noise ratio and readout speed, vary by brand, and its been theorized that sony draws up contracts affecting these that cripple their competition if they buy a sony sensor, ie:
>fuji can only have sony's next gen 40mp APS-C sensors if fuji does not make an APS-C camera with a bayer array, as the resolution increase from switching back to the superior CFA would BTFO the entire a6 line and sony would lose their entire APS-C customer base (and probably some FF users) to fuji.
>nikon receives semi-crippled sensors for fps/video simply because they are significantly better at making cameras and lenses than sony, resulting in nikon to struggle to support competitive sports/video features - hence nikon's recent purchase of RED - and therefore RED's contracts with non-sony sensor suppliers. sony probably straight up told them that they would never provide nikon with global shutter technology and that was it.
>LEGALLY POSSIBLE WITH LOTS OF NDAS: Sony can theoretically say "we will give you this sensor, but this list of features must not be supported until X amount of time has passed" in a contract, making them an unseen hand in controlling the entire camera market and maintaining their #2 position
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Selling out to snoy was a mistake
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>>4307996
None.
Panasonic sold off their fabs several years ago and Kodak did well before that.
Supposedly, Nikon sourced one or more sensors from TowerJazz for the D700/800 line.
Sigma had Foveon manufactured by Dongbu, but, reportedly, that ended as a result of them fucking up the full frame design.
Phase One might still get theirs from Dalsa. Though, I'm not sure who the supplier is after they transitioned to CMOS.
I also haven't heard who Leica gets their 30x45mm stuff from.
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>>4309550
Canon's used Sony for many of their compacts.

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any photo posters

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Rolan
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>>4306172
holyshit nice!
roll
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>>4298746
reroll bc idk wtf alphabet soup letter S means.
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>>4309494
okay I've got this. Doubt anyone could determine what it is but I'd be impressed. Also what a refreshing idea for a thread.

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>>4307488
lovely

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Seeing these cameras go for about £600 on eBay used at the moment. I only just bought one a few years ago for about double the price used, what gives? I know the S5ii and iix have much better autofocus for video but honestly if you want to get into filmmaking, this camera is an absolute bargain now for what it can do.

The built in H265 with vlog is fantastic. L Mount means you can adapt a shit ton of vintage glass to it and it can be easily rigged out into a cinema camera if needed. Think I might snag myself another one soon to use as a B cam for documentary and gig work.
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Ok cool story bro. Great thread anon.
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I'm getting one with the Sigma 2.8 zooms. You can get the same setup in Sony and it's more expensive.

For love of the pentaprism.

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>>4309372
>Like going from a d810 to a d850
It's less than that even.
20% more instead of 25%.

>APS-H never mattered
It did when the largest sensor made in F mount was produced by a soon to be bankrupt third party.
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>>4309365
because bitching about what happened to other brands in <2007 is how pentax fanboys cope with whats ongoing 2016-current

the fact is pentax is dead - killed. innovation halted. they dumped unfinished garbage on the market. their great leap forward was forcing noise reduction to game their DXO score and then... quit.

who's ready for the pentax K-1 II diary edition?
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>>4309363
It doesn't matter, what matters is that Pentax did it 10 years later than the competition
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It surprised me that this exposure was spot on without any positive EV compensation

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I used a polarizing filter here, too bad I didn't notice the camera used the widest available aperture so the edges are not very detailed

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When you realize editing photos sucks and you should of just brought a Fuji...
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>>4309265
Xtrans has lower color resolution than bayer for the same reason bayer has lower color resolution than foveon. Because photographers universally test gear on black and white charts, they never noticed this. Fuji really loses color accuracy and detail on objects with a lot of red or blue and false color artifacts are common before additional post-prcoessing if you don't use the corpsifying SOOC jpeg engine and opt for FOSS software that gives you unnecessary amounts of control (or, unnecessary for normal cameras).

It was never that xtrans prevented moire, it moves it to a different frequency and below that it just gets lost.

To be a fujifag, and expect a photo to look detailed above IG resolutions, is to spend way too much time in an editor. I think they're also where the anti-pixel-peeping culture comes from because there's no logical reason to be against enjoying a larger photo. Not everything is about "the vibe".
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>>4309299
Interesting line artifacts

There's probably a reason unrelated to processing that kept xtrans off GFX cameras. GFX cameras are big, they could shove two flagship smartphones and a huge battery in there.
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>>4309265
>Curious. There must be something wrong with fuji.
There's something wrong with their users too, you can spot the fuji stan and the photographs molested by Xtrans 2 seconds after the sighting of either
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>>4309176
You’re old *and* a nophoto?
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>>4309316
we're all hasphotos here but this is a fuji gear thread, made by an angry fuji user, and we all know how foolish it is to post photos for angry fuji users unless you enjoy negative attention

Just "found" this same camera. Pretty much brand new. How much can i scalp a retard hipster for it?

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How much better is a full frame camera than an APS-C
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>>4309093
1.5x better

>>4308806
Nikon made a nifty fifty sized 40mm f2
Sony made "film sized" 24, 35, 40, and 50s (but slower, f2.5-f2.8)
Sigma made a "film sized" 90mm f2.8

Small lenses are possible, but unwanted because most customers are pros or larpers that want f1.2 for the brides bokeh fetish
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How reliable are these fucking things? I really, really want one but I don't want to spend 300 bucks only to have it die after a couple of rolls
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>>4309168
Super reliable, because simple design, it just werx. Specially those that are obvious barely used. Ill sell you mine for $350, zero scratches, no dirt, immaculate glass, snappy buttons, bet has 5 rolls history MAX.
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>>4309178
no you're gonna scam me otherwise I would

So on Facebook this dumbass was practically begging me for a day to sell my dslr camera (pentax k-x) to him for like $50 less than I listed it, and I gave in because he gave me a sob story about being new to Texas and wanting to be a influencer. So I drive 15 minutes to meet with him, another 15 minutes waiting for him, and show him the camera and how it works. This fool whips out his iphone and starts comparing the iphone display to the screen on the camera saying the quality isn't as good.

I politely explained how he couldn't compare the big OLED screen on his 2020s iphone made to watch 60fps 4k videos in 2000 pixel resolution or w/e, to the small lcd screen on a dslr camera made in 2010. It literally only exists to display the settings and a small preview of the picture/videos, so you can then look at the actual quality on your PC through the memory card. Then this idiot didn't even know what a memory card is! I actually had to explain what it was and where he could buy one. And after all that he says, "sorry bro the quality is not good, I just use my iphone" and drives off...

Maybe zoomers actually are technologically illiterate. This fool ruined my day.
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>>4309172
>My point is that most cameras from the 00s were kinda sexless
Pentax has carried that feature over into the present day
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>>4309227

Well late Gen Z and then Gen Alpha (generation following zoomers).

Stuff like they can't type on a keyboard, they don't know what local files on a computer are, they don't know what folders on a computer are, they don't know how to save files on a computer, they can't do proper Google searches with specific keywords, can't connect to Wi-fi etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Professors/comments/1av6d6r/gen_z_are_computer_illiterate/


https://www.reddit.com/r/TeachingUK/comments/ulxosl/is_computer_literacy_at_an_all_time_low/

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z
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>>4309172
>le real tools for real pros
It was because these pieces of shit were either glued to a tripod or glued to a 24-70 and never used for real photography, just clothing ads and weddings. Hence leica stayed in business and fuji managed to capture a market selling otherwise defective garbage.
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>>4309266
the early dslr era was bad enough for cameras like the fm3a to sell to a significant number of people

and it continues! look at canon and nikon - canon is still the worst (at least nikon is slightly less blobby now and has uh, 3 small lenses)
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Age has nothing to do with it, that's just the standard selling-shit-to-strangers-in-person experience.

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Post pics taken with old digital cameras (2005 and older), im gonna post 3 i took today with my Fuji S2 Pro, i hate them because theyre cliché as fuck but hey theyre photos and i want an excuse to post em lmao

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This thread redundant?
You don't understand: the shit spreads exponentially.

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>>4265652
I had a P8 way back when. Neat little camera.

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Scored one for cheap. Been playing around with it today.. had lots of fun. Not ultra sharp, but it makes up for it in how compact and easy it is to manage.
Seems strange that nobody has bothered making these ultra compact mirror lenses in the modern age up until NISI's recent announcement.
Will the new NISI be sharper than the OG?

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>>4309119
>Seems strange that nobody has bothered making these ultra compact mirror lenses in the modern age up until NISI's recent announcement.
because they're all objectively terrible, and a 70-300 will beat them, and be desired by far more people
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>>4309142
These things cost $1000+ so i wouldn't say they are undesirable. The main point is having long reach in a small package.. Regular telephotos from the era usually suck ass and has to be stopped down to f11 to not have an image that is 50% green and purple anyways.
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You have 250mm in a lens that is no more than 6cm long, looks like a regular lens. The stealthy nature of it is also something to consider. Just think of how you could put it to use in streetfaggotry for instance where having a large lens attracts attention.
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>>4309149
Mirror lenses are the opposite of stealthy since you have a big bright fucking mirror attached to the front of your camera. They are objectively dogshit lenses and there’s a reason they’ve basically disappeared from any manufacturer’s line up. They’re soft, shitty lenses with horrible bokeh.
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>>4309119
>Seems strange that nobody has bothered making these ultra compact mirror lenses in the modern age
Because better things exist.

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