SAD EDITIONDiscuss Trainer OCs and further your designs/writing behind them through discussion with others. Be cool, be cringy, be creative, just leave your ERPing at the door. >Thread question: What are things that make your OC SAD?>Thread task: Draw your OC while SAD.>/tog/ artfaggotryhttps://mega.nz/folder/hKggRQbD#kPCbp_-Ae68nbR9cYIuRcA>/tog/ writefaggotryhttps://pastebin.com/ZdM8Hpnx>OP templatehttps://pastebin.com/CNs7J7L1>I don't know how to make a character!Brainstorming ideas and dice rolls:https://pastebin.com/5BA85WPK>I don't know how to draw!AI-generated content:https://pastebin.com/BR0sac53>I want to learn how to draw!Drawing tutorials:https://pastebin.com/6pdqaJ3m>Previous Thread: >>55783011
You got outsped by Extremespeed!
>>55796930Galarian form is better
I'm glad it's over.
>>55796741>>55796747>>55796755Hey, this is really cute. Nice.
Bump before bed since it seems things slowed down. See you goons later.
>>55796921I've always wondered, has there ever been a time where someone forgot to bump the thread and it ended up getting archived?
>>55797352None that I remember of. Or at least, not until /tog/ was created.Kayda died slowly, and Edgyverse got stale because Grim's creator hasn't released the mesugaki champion, and Nyantcha's story was already told and done.
wow last thread was a shitshow >>55796741>>55796747>>55796755holy SHIT anon this is so cute??? way to make my dead little heart beat once more, i adore this soft little moment with phos more than words can do justice, and the accompanying art really helps set the scene>>55786287>>55786164>>55786181scuffed as fuck but this gif's for you guys>>55793401look at her go!!! when do we get the ivy side scrolling beat em up???? cool to see some pixel art too, you've got such a wide range of styles going on, it's sick>>55795218woah, good to see you're alive anon, hope you can get those wisdom teeth removed soon, though i hope you don't have to deal with all the swelling i did, getting mine removed had me looking like i lost a fight for a whole week. the mo-o room bit is great>>55793137all of my paldean ocs went to naranja so even if they aren't exactly mentors, they've all had favorite teachers! bibi obviously looks up to dendra for battle studies, and once she gets into strength training she likely turns to her and eri for advice. alto's favorite was salvatore, he probably thinks he sounds super cool when he peppers random foreign languages into his chuunibyou ramblings (he doesn't), tesoro's favorite would obviously be raifort
>>55797572Twirly girl, I love it.
Non burger reporting>>55797572Ahhh!!! Cute! I want a Bibi toy, she is adorable!>>55796921Well, a bit of a downer, but ideas are ideas. David usually gets more frustrated than sad.You know, moments when you try and fail, or wake up happy just to see a message of your boss calling on bullshit, even when he did his job correctly.You know, small things that annoy you. But for proper sadness, use only one thing: dog movies.You know, those sappy ones where the dog is basically the best friend of a person, and dies at the end because the dog saw everything through innocent lenses. Good way to open his eyes/face sink.
>>55797572I want to cum on her dangos so they squirm even more when they feel the stickiness hitting them.
>>55797828Don't make me grab Emily so she can grab her sword and let her deal with you.
Bo TranCertified Alpha MaleHe works as a successful dropshipper. He buys cheap shiny pokémon and bootleg mega stones made in Vietnam and sells it to western countries.
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>>55797996Does he sell cheap knock off Pokéballs?
>>55797996https://youtu.be/2bEZQ00OOxY?si=vwU6YNQYwUUwDO6b
>>55796921>Thread question: What are things that make your OC SAD?Ivy usually gets mad instead of sad, she got bullied a lot growing up so her first response is to fight. Although I'd say when she wasn't getting into fights, loneliness is what made her actually sad. That's not so much a problem for her now that she has her Pokemon though. Miko on the other hand is also pretty mellow, especially for a kid his age. >Thread task: Draw your OC while SAD.I've drawn a sad Miko before, maybe I'll draw sad Ivy some other time. Kinda burnt out from spriting right now. and I really should be writing more, but im procrastinating by being productive elsehow>>55796741>>55796747 >>55796755 Such a cute scene you set up Phos-guy. I love the way she lowers her guard around Bibi.>>55797572Speaking of cute and Bibi, it's this! Her little dango jiggles? her swirling glasses? Truly peak.>when do we get the ivy side scrolling beat em up????soonTM B)>cool to see some pixel art too, you've got such a wide range of styles going on, it's sickTy Bibi-anon <3 I wanted to originally make an Ivy sprite in the gen 3 or 5 style, but ended up making this instead lol. My style and mediums kinda jump around a bit depending on what's inspiring me, although I do wish I had a signature style like you. I love the way you draw your characters and how your art is so recognizably you. I'll keep striving to do better thanks to you :)>>55798014Love a good chair bash.
>>55798175>I've drawn a sad Miko before
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>>55797572>spoilerYeah, hopefully you didn't see the other half of the posts that the jannies swept under the rug. Glad you liked the doodles, I would have posted it a lot sooner but at least we can end the thread on a good note. At any rate, I've been wanting to do a crossover with Phos's biggest phan phor a long time now and didn't pheel like waiting any longer. You may recall she quoted Gold Diggers of 1933 at the start of the Gaiden episode's Lampent scene, even if you probably had no idea what she was referring to. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that a film about a group of sultry, sassy beauties showing off their midriffs and looking for a good man during the Great Depression would fit her character like a glove. Whippersnappers beware, it's not a movie you should let a nine-year-old watch. I'm going back to my little power nap now.
>>55798176It's (lucky) punching time.
>>55796921>Thread question: What are things that make your OC SAD?Emily gets angry rather than sad when something goes wrong.>Thread task: Draw your OC while SAD.So in turn this ends up meaning "your OC while MAD."
Writing day today! I'm experimenting with a very different style for this next episode. I hope I can do it justice, but if not, I can at least get some experience with something new. >>55798175Your work ethic continues to astound me, it's like looking at the more talented version of myself every time you have something new to post. Though you really should return to writing so you can upstage me there too.>>55798733My rock, my boulder. What's the word count for your solo writing up to this morning?
>>55799197I've gotten no writing done, I feel like I'm in a bit of a block/slump in general atm even on the RP writing front but I did figure out what kind of route to take with the whole espionage thing. Now it's just a matter of figuring out the smaller details and mustering the motivation.
Meet the Gym Leaders from a distant region called Ibaro, a fanmade region based entirely on the Philippines. Here's what I have so far. Only three remaining.Oskar, the criminally talented Dark-type user from the slums. Unlike most Gym Leaders, he has a low reputation and would look down on most of his opponents. Might not take too kindly to losing.Ipo, a young Flying type specialist who's in charge of the region's Daycare. He lives through nursing many newly-hatched Pokemon.Landrina, The sophisticated Ground type expert. Despite being bestowed the Gym Leader title, she would've preferred focusing on her pottery career instead.Elzo, an Electrifying Superstar in both Pokemon Battle and Basketball. Incredibly famous, but despite his fame, he is awfully quiet, unlike his display of energy on the field.Pamela, a young ghost-type trainer with a morbid sense of humor. An aspiring comedian, When she's not battling or being weird. She would often crack jokes at open mikes. Most of them aren't good.Alonso, an expert on water-types and a lovable bro to all. Despite his hobby, He is quite sociable and loved by many. But even with all the love his getting, nothing beats his love for the river.Carsen, the psychotic Poison expert/chemist. Even tho Poison types have a foul reputation, she uses her Pokemon to heal and runs a successful spa using their chemicals. Some of her methods seem questionable tho.
>>55799200I feel ya. It isn't easy to maintain that kind of commitment for as long as we have in this thread. Hell, even I considered taking the weekend off to do some gaming, but I promised the voters that I would work today and tomorrow. >>55799261And speaking of maintaining commitment, welcome back. Good to see you're still chipping away at your project, it's been a while since you dropped in. I assume these leaders are listed in order of appearance? Pretty clever of you to have the Dark-Type leader who hates losing pigeonholed into being the lowest ranked by a Fighting-Type.
>>55799303My issue is just boredom honestly.
>>55799303>but I promised the voters that I would work today and tomorrow.Then just break your promise. It's easy, simple, and nothing will happen to you.
what if evil brendoomsame as normal brendoom, maybe a bit more sharp but god forbid he finds you remotely interesting
>>55799308You've mentioned before that you only have boring days, so at least we're at baseline. >>55799312Anon, being dishonest came free with my Chicago residency. I have to have some integrity sooner or later. we'll go halfsies >>55799377Evil Brendoom says "don't look both ways before jaywalking."
>>55799428Yes but writing is supposed to be what breaks up the monotony for me. But solo fic writing is boring cause it's like talking to myself for several hours.
>>55799377>god forbid he finds you remotely interestingI'm almost afraid to ask why.
>>55797121How would this interaction have gone if Bibi just ignored the door and went back to sleep?
>>55799496Total PP stall with all the dirtiest tricks in the book. Maxed evasion, Protect-Substitute-Rest, Taunt immunity; all small time. You will spend forty-five minutes trying to level a mountain by spitting on it and you will achieve nothing.
>>55799860It would be an excellent segue into OP's thread tasks.
>>55799496best case scenario is several brain surgeries>>55799866also that
>>55799866>Nega Brendoom lifts the Funbro banDear God....
>checking Hasumis art while I wait for the reference sheets of Hasumi anon and that other anon that asked me if I could recreate their OCs>double colour hair>Its non uniformoh I already see what Im going to spend my time the most recreating here.
>>55800422Oh right, give me like 30 mins. Already have most of the outfit reference material onhand, and as for the hair, besides a few key elements I mostly make it up as I go (while also following other reference), so it should be fairly straightforward
>>55796921Okay, this SHOULD be the finished interview. However, if you think I'm not descriptive enough, or if something needs clarification, or if I can fix up the dialogue, let me know so I can see what I can do.https://pastebin.com/6WQcrdtn
>>55798014>>55797918i missed out on the last thread task and question. not exactly "talking" but it was too funny to pass up>prev thread questionbibi gets sick kind of easy so she actually can't really afford to let dust or garbage pile up in her room or anything but it will never ever be "neat" because she's always leaving vitamins/held items/accessories/random knickknacks all over the place. alto's a bit better but he fucking hates putting away the laundry so clothes always end up strewn about and his desk is always littered with papers filled with scrapped song lyrics. tesoro's meticulous about keeping things tidy, all the treasures he collects have to be clean enough to sparkle>>55798175nice combo finisher! funnily enough i wish i had your variety, grass is always greener huh? i'm glad we both inspire each other though. can't wait to get more writing from you>>55798589and what a phantastic way to end the thread>>55799261cool to see the whole lineup got done, big fan of carsen's trubbish shaped hood>>55799377love how devious the smile in the right corner is>>55797823>sad dog moviesme too david, me too
>>55800636>stabbingThat big sword is more for bonking. But she'd definitely join in brutalizing a degenerate like that regardless.
>>55800669>Emilyanon plays Mihoyo's fanservice gamemfw
>>55800688I actually haven't touched it in like a year. The menu-hopping arena shit is boring. But Senti has left a strong impression on me.
>>55800636Did you have to make Azelie look like such a fucking psycho?
>>55800695Bibi king has my written permission to make any EiF-related character look as deranged as he wants.
>>55800695
>>55800703Can you edit that expression onto the full drawing?
>>55800751Funny enough, I actually did. Then zoomed in on the face and cropped out the rest. Looking at it now almost makes me nostalgic for the early MS Paint days. I miss using the curved line tool as a magic crutch. ;w;
>>55800751Faithfully recreated in Paint for you.
>>55800422I am a filthy fucking liar this was not 30 minutesSheet:https://files.catbox.moe/2oxkgv.pngRef images:https://files.catbox.moe/no9iin.rar>>55800745I fucking love RPK-16
>>55800597>Hemlock doesn’t dress like a normal person according to AlexMeh, if he did I’d find the design boring, personally. I always try to make all my characters look special somehow, so I guess I succeeded. Also the level of SPITE in every single possibly reply lmaoI kinda want to write both a Koa and a Hemlock response. Also, I technically have a 3rd character concept that I never really did anything with. I’ll have to get on with that eventually. I wonder what a Koa interview template could be…
>>55800597Hot damn, you were a busy little bee, weren't you. Great work, I'll start pouring through it immediately.
>>55800877It's one thing to have a brightly colored suit, whose only telltale characteristic of having been tailored is its color. Franco's pauldrons are atypical, but Alex mostly just dismisses it as company policy. Hemlock on the other hand, looks like a cross between an executive and a military official, which crosses the line in the sand between what's normal and what's not.
>>55800636Who are they beating up?
>>55801073This nigger >>55797828
I need to stop taking phone calls on my days off.
>>55801520I know that feel. I made over 300 hours that month, it was nuts and I was busted.Then again, it was a new job after I cursed and almost punched my first boss, so I REALLY needed the good review.
>>55801543I'm sure there's a funny story behind that. Luckily for me, I'm good at turning workplace frustrations on its head by being incredibly sarcastic but also very helpful and constructive. Like the time we had a printer break and start spitting streaks of red ink onto random pages that passed underneath. Other lackeys had mentioned it in the days prior and got brushed off, but I know better than to trust polite requests to get results. So I instead recontextualized the incident as the work of a malevolent entity from beyond the stars and brought it to my boss's attention. To: [boss]Subject: Maintenance RequestA cold paranoia at the corner of the menial's vision compelled him to look down at the printer, and something malicious looked back at him. It could not be called a face, for a face has angles and limits and this had neither. Dark red points of light that could be dying stars or arid planets or leering eyes gazed upwards into the ether. A spiraling galaxy of quasars and nebulae twisted into a scarified rictus grin that stretched infinitely across a white void. Sickly crimson beads emerged from the darkness above, tearing themselves free of their caul in a macabre dance that slowly rose in intensity as they took shape into gleeful imps. Sons and daughters of a hateful Machine God. Imagine another three or four paragraphs of that. I didn't get an email response, but the printer was fixed before my lunch break. My boss stopped by later that afternoon to ask me about my prior work history, and that conversation set in motion the comedy of errors that got my throat all scarred up the next day.
>>55800597Why does this have so many fucking views? It's at 80 right now.
>>55801917Sh, sh, shh. You make the lurkers nervous when you acknowledge them. I SEE YOU FUCKERS. I'M LOGGING YOUR IP AS WE SPEAK, GABE.
>>55801933See? Look at the way Gabe suddenly stopped slouching just then. Poor thing's beshooken.
>>55800843thanks. but still the hair will be a pretty big challenge if its a mix of white and black with no consistency. I will try to recreate her while I wait for the anon that posted >>55794792 >>55794938, unless you are the same anon.
>>55801941How much more do you need besides >>55801917 >>55800597 that will determine how long it takes me to get it out for you
>>55802310Oh, since you never mentioned the name of the OC at any point I wasnt aware who they were. So alex? I can do him, no problem.
>>55801684I wish I was this clever. Nah, it was only a bad moment in a bad time.>Summer, hottest month in all year>I barely managed to survive 3 months in my job swapping times (some work mornings, other afternoons, other nights, I was alternating)>One guy goes on vacation, I get his spot>place is in renovations, no air, and heat does this weird thing where hot air comes in, but doesn't get out>Get shitty fan, make many trips to the water cooler, still can't refresh>Was a 12 hour shift, so I was first hour in the morning to last (6 to 6)>Do this for a week. Manageable>Some idiot doesn't come, get called>Miss my day off>Second week, shit starts to creep on me>Barely awake, heat doesn't help, got reported I was sleeping (I'm sure I was fighting passing out)>Thursday, just arrived>"Just two more days and it's done">Some twat quit on the spot>Fighting to hold 2 spots now>Supervisor comes, fires another who was slacking on the job>Gets mad at me and talks like it was my fault>"Oh, sorry, but I guess this is what happens when you hire new retards, and the most capable is the stupid one who has been jumping for 3 months!">"I didn't told you this to-">"TO FUCKING WHAT ASSHOLE?!">Shaking, got him against the wall, hands up and ready to go>Doesn't reply. Most tense minute in our lifes.>Notification: some guys from other objectives are on their way>Time after, other guys come>Go back to original post>Thinking: "fuck, I screwed it, time to search for a new job">Get transfered to night shift after that day. 3 days later, sent to a new objective.>"Alright, I guess I'm here, let's not screw up.">Become the "yes man", do 300 hours, got good reviews, job secured.Funny thing is that, 6 months later, we had a change in supervisors. Who was the one who came to our objective: the supervisor I threatened to attack. At least things are cool now with him.
Bump.
>>55802519I understand. Heat and rotating schedules make beasts out of men. >>55800597I'll fill out the questionnaire in the morning, I promise.
>>55800597I think 15,000 Pokedollars isn't actually a lot money in world. That's like only 7 Pokeballs or something. Mind if I up the ante a bit when filling this out?
>>5580277615,000 yen is $150 bucks just to fill out a survey and be on your way. That's five Full Restores, twelve/eighteen Ultra Balls, ten Revives, or seventy-five Pokeballs (and seven Premier Balls). Consider how much those mall scams are willing to pay you, and Alex-kun didn't even make you fill out your phone number and email address. $150 bucks is more than generous.
>>55802810oops you're totally right, I just mathed that one real badly
>>55798058Yeah. His ace is an Arceus (Made in Vietnam). But usually cycles around his to team whatever pokémon is trendy at the time.
Non burger reporting. Bump.
>>55800597pastebin crashed as I was filling this out and I lost all the progress I had written.
>>55803550Non burger again.>>55800597I managed to write my interview. Since we talked about jobs, and some not being neets, I changed it into a job interview.I felt a bit >Greentext, so I basically wrote everything in that perspective. Enjoy!>https://mega.nz/file/GF9HQQ7S#mMFNkFCH7eOWwH_rGZ7HpShLOCHgAx1bBR0wc2-Re0Q
>>55803617Always write in an offline document and then paste it over when you're done. There is nothing to gain from not being able to save your own work, but aaas you demonstrate, there is so much to lose through no fault of your own.
>>55801941Hasumianon here, only the 2nd one of that was me. And dw take as much time as you like
>>55803865I know, took me like 2 to 3 weeks to make Azelie iircguess this is another thing I can talk about the game.So, the hair is mostly divided by pieces, Front and back, thanks to mods people have managed to turn them into accesories because You cant change the hairstyle of a character, So people prefer doing this if they want a character with multiple hairstyles.Now onto the main problem, as hairs are done in pieces, You dont really have control over the color of the hair in a more granular detail, you can make it so the tips, the root and the middle point are different colors, but making individual hairstrands different colors is not possible normally, So that means having to either change the textures in a hair(easier than you may think with all the mods in the game), and modify the texture in the hair model to make it a mixed hair, oooor you can do like picrel did do this one hair, basically make the hair 20 different pieces or more.
>>55804098From what I saw of people getting out honkai characters in full detail in like 3 days of their models being datamined, yeah kk's pretty comprehensive.Also she doesn't have hair vents. For reference on how the hair's shaped, look at Seele Vollerei from Honkai, she's basically got it down.
>>55804098Just wanted to pop in and say that if you get good with material editor you can get some crazy shit going on with hair. I had a friend that made a hair style where the outside was a nice smooth silky looking black, but the inside of the hair was an animated galaxy waving effect that looks ridiculous, i'll go through my stuff and see if I can get a visual for it.
It's a beautiful day outside. Birds are singing, flowers are blooming. On days like these... anons like youShould be drawing or writing OC fanfiction.
>>55804098>>55804287I remembered the details about the hair color wrong but I was right about the underpart: https://files.catbox.moe/0p1sod.mp4
>>55796921>What makes Nono SAD?Because she's a muppet and one big meanie keeps callin' her muppet. I wonder who's this guy
>>55804305It was me. And I'll keep doing it.
>>55804267I know, I just grabbed an example to showcase this detail, also thanks for the reference>>55804287I'm a regular in the koikatsu thread in /h/, I know how crazy you can go, some people just go and make mechs in the game/studio for fucks sake.
>>55804336Yeah, one of the frequents in my server does entire super robot robot battle clips. Keep telling him to just learn blender. I don't really ever go to the threads unless I have a specific issue I can't figure out. But hey, your girl looks pretty, which more than I can say for the majority of people that make characters and just make a default character with exaggerated proportions and obnoxious colors.
>>55804365>But hey, your girl looks pretty, which more than I can say for the majority of people that make characters and just make a default character with exaggerated proportions and obnoxious colors.I just frankenstein together different parts of the cards I have collected over the years in my....20 GBs pile of cards, more often than not that is how I do my stuff but hey, At least I know how to mix together stuff to look good, and also this is getting too far off the purpose of the thread, so I think I will stop now and just work silently on her.
>>55804305I can't bros. I just can't. This silly creature is so stupid, she's so dumb, numbnuts. She's probably stinks and digs her nose in exaggerated way. Just look at her. Isn't she silly? Silly girl.I bet my most valuable thing that she gets tricked a lot, makes little mischiefs, steals food.She probably was hiding like this kitten behind the couch after stealing the sausage once as wellUhhh, so silly, tsk
>>55796921Been a while since I had my last poll. Also, apparently the interview is at 115 views, which, not including the storage pastebin itself, makes it the most viewed /tog/ pastebin ever. Which is, surprising, to say the least.https://strawpoll.com/QrgebXYDLZp
>>55805005Not even a contest for Dragalge there. Corviknight has all it really needs with Iron Defense, Body Press, Power Trip and Drill Peck; but Dragalge has everything it could ever really want with moves like Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt, Hydro Pump, Sludge Bomb, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast, Play Rough, Acid Armor... heck, they went so far as to give it access to both Smokescreen and Double Team by leveling up. Those kelp strands were made by Victorinox.
>>55805039That's what I thought as well. Corviknight mainly wins out on mobility due to a higher speed stat and being able to fly, as well as having a better defensive typing, but it's mostly limited to being a STAB physical attacker like Weavile and a defensive pivot with U-Turn.>Body PressAlthough Body Press is great to run ingame, it's more risky in writing because, much like Iron Head, it requires you to actually put yourself in harm's way, moving towards the opponent and giving them an opportunity to potentially turn your movement against you. This is especially true for Corviknight, who has to drop out of the air and go limp in order to Body Press someone. >Play RoughDragalge was originally running a more mixed set in terms of main attacks, however, its crippling speed stat necessitates it mostly fires off special attacks because getting up close and personal like that puts it in harm's way, especially if the opponent has Seismic Toss or another grab move that they can use to just throw Dragalge away or grapple onto it and just swing it at the ground repeatedly. A charging Tyranitar, for example, will be hit by Hydro Pump, but if it manages to get through then it will either force a Flip Turn or end up doing damage. This is where Corviknight's typing and flight come in, it's not weak to Ground and can attempt to fly away. Play Rough, Aqua Tail, and Breaking Swipe would be reserved for situations like >>55776965 where you're setting a trap for the enemy. >Focus BlastI don't know if I'm actually going to give the species access to Focus Blast because of the "moves have to make sense rule". It's a Fighting move and I'm not sure if thin weedy arms would be able to logically channel that kind of energy.
>>55805234>who has to drop out of the air and go limp in order to Body Press someoneNot quite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73OvZ_l35SwImagine that maneuver being performed by a steel-plated bird the size of a car. You need to remember that Dragalge is a counterpart to another species, Clawitzer. Whereas Clawitzer has very precise, methodical and carefully selected bullet-like attacks such as Water Pulse, Dragon Pulse, and Aura Sphere all aimed with laser-focused intent; Dragalge is the equivalent of projectile-vomiting random bullshit from that long, tube-like snout and hoping for the best. Clawitzer's Aura Sphere has the exact same firepower as Dragalge's Focus Blast, along with a Water Pulse stronger than a Hydro Pump and only a slightly weaker Dragon Pulse, but only one of these species promises a guaranteed hit each time. Having access to random moves like Focus Blast isn't just fair, it's an essential aspect of Dragalge's identity as a species.
>>55805410Doesn't that kind of mean that Clawitzer is built to counter Dragalge? Dragon allows it to live through Water attacks on two layers of bullshit, but Clawitzer has both boosted Dragon and Ice attacks, in addition to Dark Pulse. I guess that in turn explains the evolutionary relationship with Dhelmise, since it has both Grass and boosted Steel attacks, as well as Dragalge having access to Thunder Also, Sludge Wave is something that exists, which lessens its haphazardness, as well as Muddy Water.
>>55805535Also, although it's not boosted ingame, I imagine that realistically Mud Shot and Ice Beam would be powered up by Mega Launcher. Clawitzer also has access to Blizzard because ?????? Although, in turn, Dragalge gets Adaptability, which, in turn, implies that there was an evolutionary arms race between the two species.
>>55805569>in turn, implies that there was an evolutionary arms race between the two species.Now you're getting it. It's a constant game of one-upmanship. Precise bursts versus powerful blasts, all the way into the depths of the sea.
>>55805592Lower speed than Clawitzer and being an ambush predator suggests that it would need close range attacks like Play Rough in order to survive roving Clawitzer that get too close by disabling their claws, as well as a high SpDef in order to potentially survive being blasted. Not as practical in the arena, but it works in nature. Its predation on Finizen also suggests that it had to awaken its ancient genes in order to protect its pods as a Palafin. It's not stated that Clawitzer preys on Finizen, but why couldn't it, with that big fucking claw? In turn, why couldn't Clawitzer and Dragalge possibly be competing over Finizen pods? There was a lot of room here, but Gamefreak didn't even bother to force a rivalry in the Pokedex like it did with Archaludon and Tyranitar.
>>55805665In a roundabout way, they do. Dragalge and Clawitzer are version-exclusive in all of their appearances, they simply cannot coexist in the same ecosystem. Whichever one the player character encounters is the one that won the war. It's not that the other one ceases to exist (they're still both required to complete the regional dex), it's just that they are forced into hiding or out of the player's reach.
>>55805711Ecologically speaking I wonder if this would be the case in writing or if they would still be fighting for dominance. I imagine that the trinity of Palafin/Dragalge/Clawitzer would keep all of their populations in check, and that they all reside in the same four regions, as ORAS implied that Pokemon from later generations can live in regions from prior generations. That now brings into question how Alex is supposed to get it. I had the idea of it being an invasive species in Unova that Alex gets paid to catch in order to protect Horsea habitats and the trade of Driftveil City but that’s kind of a stretch because I have no idea how it’s supposed to get there unlike the Hondege in Relic Castle that just come from old Unovan swords.. The other idea I had was that it gets mailed to him in one of the Interludes by his dad, along with Dhelmise. I don’t think he’ll catch it in Galar, Kalos, or Paldea because I don’t have any aquatic scenes planned for him yet.
>>55805943As a general rule, you don't want to just hand things over like that unless there's some serious sentimentality going on (there probably isn't). Answering strange questions like "how did that get here" is what a writer does, those driving questions provide the backbone of a scene. The environment isn't static, ecosystems are constantly growing, declining, changing and adapting. Recently, migratory bird patterns have shifted in the area, changing course to fly about 50 miles west into central Illinois due to the Earth's magnetic poles shifting. Pufferfish are intelligent enough to cultivate the coral colonies they eat and will migrate to trim down more numerous species so that smaller colonies can regrow. As temperatures rise and fall, territory ranges expand or contract. The world of Pokemon would be no different. An opportunistic piece of flotsam rides an anomalous storm to a new environment and is delighted to learn none of its new neighbors know how to compete against it. Boom-bassa-boom, you have your narrative conflict.
>>55806074I’m mostly concerned about the invasive species thing becoming repetitive, because the big fight at the end of Interlude 1 also has something to do with that. Plus, he catches a lot of stuff, including some test subjects for Team Plasma, so I thought receiving one from elsewhere would be a good shakeup.
>>55799197>>55800636Aw, you guys flatter me too much. I really should continue writing, it'll probably be a long while before I completely finish the story I have outlined though. I'll keep working at it and see where I can chop it up into a bunch of chapters so I can at least get something out. Love the way Bibi is looking on at an absolute slaughter here. >>55800597What better way to distract myself from writing than with more writing? https://pastebin.com/0GLXEwZhI was going to write out an additional interview for Miko too, but I'm a bit burnt out right now lol.>>55799377The way evil brendoom's hair matches his ace is so wonderful.>>55799938They're so cute together.
>>55806563Ivy is such a meathead lmao. I wonder how she would have reacted to the midriff comment that Phos and Alto get
for whatever reason my brain decided to go full throttle on the autism this evening and i put to paper like a whole week's worth of shower thoughts. any yurifags or romance enjoyers wanna give me some thoughts on what seems like the most decent setup for a story? the ideas are a bit half baked but that's just because i don't wanna spend too long on something i'll end up scrappinghttps://pastebin.com/xHcQXQaD
>>55804305>>55804615Hug the NoNo
>>55806926nyx, for reference
>>55806926Well, this thread is as crazy as it is, so my vote goes to SPACEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>>55806926My advice would be to keep it platonic because Yuri is cringe. But if you need a vote, go with 2 because she’s the hottest. Also, here’s a metal song about quitting your job and telling your employer to fuck off.https://youtube.com/watch?v=yUdzQ3pxaiM
>>5580703065 Spd, so a bit slow. I'd recommend having Agility and Baton Pass if you want to use it. Poison Tail is a good move.
>>55806721>“You know, you’re showing a lot of stomach there.” >“Huh?” Ivy looked down at her bare stomach. “Oh, uh, yeah. I guess so.” She shrugged and tugged at the bottom of her crop top. >“Aren’t you ashamed?” He blurted out presumptuously.>One moment, Ivy was too shocked to speak and the next she was red in the face mad as hell. >“Listen here pretty boy!” she retorted. She slammed her hands down on the desk in front of her as she rose out of her chair, getting up in the young man’s face. And then that's when I'd imagine Glimmora would drop from the ceiling and intervene, revealing to Ivy that there was a deadly Pokemon hanging above her the entire time and not just some weird chandelier. She'd probably get excited about meeting a new Pokemon though, get poisoned somehow, and then fix herself up with an Antidote or something like that. >>55806926>>55806940Ugh Bibi-anon, these are so so so so good! I personally love Seraphina's design the best, but I think Rina's story might be the most compelling. You have such a way with words that flows so well. I might sound like a broken record, but I'm always so impressed with the level of talent from the anons in these threads lol. Regardless of what you decide on, I cannot wait to see what comes out of this.Love Nyx's outfits here too. Her sad, wavy irises are so good- she looks like she could use a hug.
>>55806926Woah! I like these designs! I’m not really into that kind of story, but I’d vote space. It’s the funniest and most interesting route, my own reservations about Pokémon/human hybrids aside.By the way, some shower time relevant to Koa’s family life led to developing some lore about Koa’s grandfather.In short, at one point I realised a discrepancy in the actions of Koa’s father. Koa’s father is supposed to be a rather conservative man, who cares about tradition and opposes Koa’s breaking of the lack of a Trial Captain in Poni. However, Koa’s father is also a Unovafag who wants to see Koa travel somewhere else and succeed in Unova as a Gym Leader or something. I realised this was a conflict in his ideology, so I came to develop the missing link that would fix this.Koa’s ancestors come from Unova and migrated to Alola 100-200 years ago. So like, maybe PLA times. Koa’s grandfather was actually very similar to Koa: he was jolly and loved nature, and he even had a Kommo-o for a partner. This was a time where Alola was a lot more cohesive socially (another point that others have brought up). The Island Challenge was a rite of passage, but those who failed reintegrated fairly easily, and there wasn’t as much shame as there is now. External influence of other Leagues did that. Koa’s father wasn’t happy with his own father, and he grew up to be more of a competitive battler as the region changed. At one point, they had a falling out and Koa’s grandpa got back in touch when Koa was born, only to pass away a few years after.
>>55807265Koa’s father made the mistake of giving Koa his own father’s traditional garb, and he’s overall pained by the fact that Koa takes after his grandpa, because Koa’s father thinks his own father was kind of a bum and he never really reached much success. Koa’s father overcorrected by leaving home early and becoming a tournament champ with his Druddigon as battling became more and more popular in Alola as a genuine sport, instead of just a way for humans and Pokémon to grow closer, or for rituals. Koa’s father is still fairly traditional and he respects the upbringing he had, but he’s more pragmatic. He thinks there isn’t much in Alola for someone like Koa, who he believes is talented enough to succeed elsewhere (or perhaps he’s just projecting his own desires on his son). Koa’s father isn’t an asshole, but he’s certainly harsh on him out of a belief that he knows what’s best for Koa.Koa’s father is a minor antagonist. Not because he’s evil, but because he’s a genuine obstacle for Koa in realising his path, not just in his struggle against Hemlock and Macro Cosmos, but in life. Koa’s father actually dislikes Hemlock quite a bit. In the end, Koa will have to prove to his father that being a traditionalist and being stubborn are a fine line to cross, most likely in a battle. After all, only a dragon can truly defeat a dragon. Lore drop over lmao
>>55807265>last sentence of spoilerI think you should make Koa’s grandfather be present for the flashback of Koa catching Jangmo-o. It would show that Koa’s father is willing to put aside a grudge for an important rite of passage. Or, alternatively, have him be excluded from seeing Koa catch Jangmo-o, and make it a point to showcase how rooted Koa’s father is in his ways.My only complaint is Koa’s father somehow winning tournaments with a Druddigon and Haxorus as his more prominent Dragons. They’re some of the weakest Dragon in the world of Pokémon, excluding those that aren’t fully evolved.
>>55807713Thank you, bump bro. I'm putting the finishing touches on Alex's interview.
>>55807777Take a look at dem quads.
>>55807325>only a dragon can defeat a dragonI find this sentiment to be false because even though they're evenly matched type-wise, they aren't matched stat-wise. It would be like saying that only a Ghost can defeat a Ghost, even though some Ghosts like Chandelure and Aegislash are completely superior to others like Mimikyu and Polteageist. There's also dual typings to factor in, Decidueye has an inherent advantage over Palossand because Grass beats Ground, just like how Baxcalibur is inherently advantageous over Garchomp because Ice beats Ground AND Dragon.
>>55807823It's not meant to be taken literally, it's a muh ideals type thing.Or maybe just think of it as Koa coping whenever he loses. His own >d-doesn't count!
>>55807893>It's not meant to be taken literallyYou are talking to Alex.
Hope Ayumu bro is doing well out there. He is missed.Here's this from the last thread task. Multiple characters in a drawing... whole different kind of challenge.>>55796437The very same. For sure, fellow Chibrottha.>dunes + cactiI'd be down. Crazy with this kind of environment diversity around here. When do we get our own Pokemon region? I'm sure Indiana wouldn't mind being lumped in.>>55800597Yesss, the Alex interview is here... On my radar.>>55806563Confound that cute rat!
>>55806926I was leaning to 2 since I liked her design best but then I read 3 I want hatesex now.1 is indeed the most developed, and it being a re-journey makes for the best for a long term story however, meanwhile 3 being a solo run kinda takes away from it storytelling wise.Objectively, 1 is the best of the bunch.
Honest question, what you guys think or imagine Gene is as a character? Asking because he mostly doesn't have much beyond just being the more developed NPC you come across, being chill, being part of royalty or some high class citizen but not really caring about all that, or him actually getting his Pokemon N style, (Coming across them, being friendly, then he shows them the ball then the mon chooses to either accept the offer or not.)
>>55808007I think he needs more opportunity for his character to develop on its own. He's handsomely plain, certainly not over or underdressed (though his color coordination needs a bit of work). He's at a perfectly neutral starting point to branch off into some good adventures. How did he befriend his Crobat, what kind of prejudices does he have to contend with having both an Absol and Mimikyu with him? What did he do to earn that Mega Lucario and master its power? His trials, his setbacks, the distractions along the way. All perfect seedbeds for some fantastic writing material.
>>55800597Took a hot second to decide what oc to do this with but chose tesoro cuz i haven't really written anything for him yet and at least alto got that one vega interview. rowlex is a pun of rowlet+rolex but that should be obvious, and yes, they actually do make you buy cheaper shit before you can buy more expensive watches. i know some other designer fashion brands do this too, its not exclusive to them.https://pastebin.com/UwwRRkEK>>55800703thank you for your understanding, please know i drew psycho azelie with all the love in my heart>>55806563the reveal she got into fisticuffs with marshall really got me, especially because she "got the jump on him" in her own words, i'm howling just imaging getting jumped by ivy outta nowhere. great stuff, she's a fun character to follow. and hey, gotta sharpen up my own writing skills to keep up the pace with anons like you>>55806966>>55807265>>55807974appreciate the thoughts!>>55807325really love the extended background on koa and his relationship to his father and grandfather, said it before but having dual antagonistic forces in his life on the part of hemlock and his dad makes for some fun conflicts>>55808007his design is genuinely cute and i enjoy the basis of his story. there's a lot of fun avenues to explore, like how he comes from a wealthy background but doesn't care for it. has he ever used that wealth for ends he couldn't accomplish by himself? how does that make him feel? are there any added pressures that come with his upbringing or expectations he has to either fulfill or escape from? that kinda thing>>55807951wheaton for worlds best bug
Definitely posted this before, but it still counts.Luke gets sad when he feels like nothing he's done has mattered, everything he thought he was supposed to do ends up blowing up in his face, and none of his friends talk to each other anymore.He's real sad right now.
>>55805005Alright, ye gobshites, it's finally finished. I couldn't decide which angle to approach it with, so I thought it would be fun and interesting to do a little hybrid. Let me know what you think.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rqR-Aj1eCxo-BNt2zUNZBTHfKW99uQJx/view?usp=sharinghttps://mega.nz/file/oTRxwSJa#c6SvytO_NQ8kuVEx8xqZKqmfqTm-7UQuiV5J5t0knHgI'm off to bed.
>>55808255And no, I didn't bother to proofread. If I only edit while sober and I didn't drink to write, then do I really need to check for mistakes?>>55808158There there, lil' niggy. You don't have to stay strong, but you have to stay standing.
>>55808158Poor Luke, needs a hug.
>>55808276>>55808289He's gonna do his very best to pull himself together. We are in a bit of a hiatus while our GM figures out what to do after our Regigigas fight. There's gonna be a four year time skip and Luke will look more like this after working as a Ranger.
>>55808302Damn, looking fresh right there.
Stop! Bumping time.
I ended up playing MOBA slop all day instead of working on my fic cause I had the itch. But I got my reminder that even the wins in this genre at utterly fucking hollow cause it's never "close, competitive back and forth games". It's always just one team got all the oxygen thieving 0-10 retards and the other team has actual human beings on it so it's just a one sided 20 minute stomp. So I will probably work on my fic more tomorrow.
>>55808667>MOBA slop all dayDota or LoL?
>>55807420That’s what I already had in mind. In fact, Jangmo-o is very elusive. It’s kind of a miracle that Koa even got to find one as a little kid, it was certainly with his grandfather’s help that he got to do that. Koa’s father (crap, they both need names at this point) would probably be rather irritated that day, too.> My only complaint is Koa’s father somehow…Sorry man, I don’t work like that. Pokémon are as strong as I say they are in this story, Smogon be damned. Although thanks for reminding me that Koa’s dad’s ace was a Haxorus, I forgot.
>>55807823>>55807893I’ve said it before. It’s about ideals, specifically honesty. Only a dragon can hand another dragon an honest, one-on-one L. As in, dragons are equally matched in typing (in theory). Yeah, whatever, other factors can come in, other advantages can exist, but dude, is it THAT outlandish to believe that a Kommo-o and a Haxorus can have an evenly matched 1v1? I just want to write about family and honor here. Alexanon, I respect and understand your preference towards competitive viability in your writing, but you seriously have to understand that some people don’t want to write their combat sections like that. For me, a Pokémon, no matter which one it is, can be as strong as I say it is. Otherwise I’d just give Hemlock a Lando-T and call it a day. That’d be boring to me.>>55808115Real shit??? Tesoro reply??? Blessed day
>>55806926>Tale as old as time. The guy who the boss just promoted is the idiot with the loudest voice in the room.Haha, that's me. But you forgot to mention that I'm also the tallest, the strongest, and the most ruggedly handsome. I vote for story 3, but I have confidence that you could pull off option 1. Option 2, unfortunately, has the worst hangups of 1&3 with very few pros.
>>55807265>>55807325So, it the "traditional grandfather" Koa's maternal or paternal grandfather? And is Koa's mother native Alolan or did she also immigrate over from Unova? Because if the his father is Unovan, but the grandfather is his maternal grandfather, then the grandfather would be native Alolan and not Unovan and his strong sense of traditionalism and ties to the land and culture of the islands would make more sense. It also creates a stronger tug of war between following the path of one side of the family or the other.And if both Koa's mother and father are Unovan and not Alolan, than where does this strong sense of traditional values come from, because then it would be traditional Unovan values, not Alolan ones.>>55808803I also love the idea of granddad taking his grandson out to catch his first Poke'mon, especially behind the father's back as the dad might have had a different idea of what he wanted Koa's first experience to be. The whole event can be a great source of conflict between the men if you want it to be.
Hmm, I recieved another Tweny fanart, sadly its /co/>>/co/
>>55809422Hmm… the thing is, I had this idea where there’d be 3 generations. Grandpa, dad, and Koa. But what you’re saying actually kinda makes sense: Koa’s mother is from a strictly Alolan family, while Koa’s father, despite being born and raised in Alola, has ties to Unova. Although I’d have to see how this works, because it kinda kills the whole “I faced my father differently than you” thing, and it’s more of a tug of war between two sides of the family, which I find to be a little unbalanced.The Unovan ancestry is from ages ago. Koa’s parents, both of them, are Alolan from birth. The thing is, I had this idea where Koa’s father had issues with his own father, and Koa would repeat them. Kind of like a cycle that breaks eventually. I don’t know if that is more compelling than the grandpa being from the maternal side. The things I 100% have to keep are:>Koa’s grandfather (regardless of which side of the family he was in) was a nature lover with a Kommo-o who lived a fairly frugal life. Koa’s father had gripes with him. Eventually, Koa’s grandfather came back into contact when Koa was born. Both the dad and the grandpa were there to get Koa his first partner, which much like grandpa’s, was a Jangmo-o. Koa’s grandfather died maybe a few months after. Since then, Koa’s inherited his garb and adventuring spirit, much to his father’s chagrin.I initially thought the “like my father before me…” angle was more dramatic and thematically rich, because it’s a cycle that Koa would break by facing his father head on. But now I’m not sure. I even had this line planned: ”At first, I wondered if you were even my own son. But those doubts vanished when I realised how much you take after my own father.”I still think the paternal grandpa angle is still better at a conflict level, because ending it with “you just take after your mother’s side more” is kind of a weak resolution. I’ll see.
>>55807823Nigga, both can be true. Like how only a buu/majin can harm another buu/majin in DB. Obviously not all Buus are as strong as the other (compare Buuhan and Kid Buu) and there non-majins who have surpassed the Buus featwise but still, only a buu can reliably harm another
>>55808037>handsomely plain, neutral starting pointThat was kind of the point, I didnt want him to be a full on protag or consider himself as a center of the world, like some other anon said, he is not here to change the world from the get go, he is here to blend with it or be a neat addition.Like a weed, naturally, as a matter of course>Catched monsEevee is a pet he decided to bring along, Doesn't want to evolve so he made Eevee be the protection+Last resort Eevee.Snivy was a gift from his parents, an heirloom.The rest are more variedWhile he got out of a cave a Zubat kept following him and trying to eat fruit in his backpack, it happened enough that the Zubat got lost, Gene managed to lead him back to the cave but kept following him after that, so he offered the ball and Zubat accepted.Mimikyu was a request from someone to clean up a pest in some barely used storage room in a supermarket, after a bit of search and managing to befriend him, he got him out and into the wilderness, and again, Mimikyu followed him and a ball was offered.Absol and Riolus encounter are more up in the air or im not sure how to present it.>>55808115>upbringingThe kind of person that sees poor and common wealth, and tries to help or not give a fuck about any of that within limits, Thinking you are above a person because you got lucky and come from a wealthy family its the kind of mentality he will punch you for.Money will not pay you or excuse you from being a piece of shit.
>>55808255This is kino. It feels like one of those movie scenes that’s alternating back and forth between various different locations. Has a very “business” feel to it. The fucking Duraludon scene kek. >>55808115I originally planned an interaction where Alex shittalks Sharpedo but scrapped it because I wanted to keep with the “slightly seductive” angle that he takes with Tesoro.Either this would have been during the first question about clothing or when he mentions that Sharpedo was his worst Pokemon>You know, Sharpedo isn’t all that great. Awful BST, and even with Mega Evolution it’s still got glaring vulnerabilities in bulk and typing. You’d be better off investing in the Hisuian variant of Samurott.Also, here’s a separate interaction that I thought up which eschews that angle<"Oh would you believe the trouble it took to get my hands on a Gholdengo? They're an exceedingly rare species but their stellar defensive typing and gleaming body make them well worth the treasure hunt-">”That you haven-, wait, did you say Gholdengo? You can’t be serious. You went to all of that trouble to gain one of the ugliest, Arceus-forsaken Pokemon that exists, when Aegislash is right there?”<“I- I”, now Tesoro was a bit upset.>”-I mean, just look at it. It’s got a great ability, but it’s limited to STAB Specials while Aegislash can both attack and defend in addition to having a better movepool.”<“Well, why not both”, Tesoro quipped back.>”I mean, yeah, but that thing’s so ugly that I would never even consider getting close to it. Let alone it’s mischievous, annoying, insipid pre-evolution.>They both sighed at each other in perfect synchronization. After a brief pause, they got back on track.(Interview resumes as normal)Also, since you didn’t do the sneeze thing, I might deliberately have Tesoro’s memory not erased. We’ll see.
>>55809869>feels like one of those movie scenes that’s alternating back and forth between various different locationsSo glad it meets your approval. ;)
>>55808842Objectively speaking, Kommo-o is better than Haxorus, both ingame and in the anime. It’s possible to have an even matchup, but it’s more difficult because you have to make it make sense. In my mind, there’s only four ways that a weaker Pokemon can beat a stronger Pokémon.>Overleveling: This is the easiest and most common one. A LVL60 Kommo-o can’t do shit against a LVL100 Haxorus. I assume this is the angle that you will be taking, since the Haxorus will be older and more experienced with fighting.>Superior Tactics: Tactics are a good way of leveling the playing field. You can have a strong Pokemon, but if you don’t know how to command it, you’ll lose; the flip side of this is having a weaker Pokemon but knowing how to use it better than your opponent can. Terrain and weather are also big players in this.>Type Matchup: If we take two Pokémon at LVL60 matched up against a LVL80 Weavile, one Lucario and one Exxecutor-A, Lucario will have an easier time because it negates Weavile’s STABs while being able to hit back with both of its STAB SE attacks. Likewise, a LVL100 Exxecutor-A will still have a hard time against that Weave because it’s 4X weak to one of its STABs.>Tag Team: If a Dragapult takes down a Hydreigon but is weakened enough by it, a Kommo-o, even if a bit underleveled, can finish the job with a Clanging Scales or two.You don’t even have to go full meta for this, but I want to help you make your story make more sense.>Otherwise, I’d just give Hemlock a Landoris-T and call it a day.You can’t do that either, because that wouldn’t make sense due to clashing with his team’s type focus, personality, and the fact that it’s an elusive Legendary. This is what I mean when I say “making sense”, it’s taking the meta into account while also considering how the Pokemon setting affects it. This is why I would tell you to replace Roserade with Toxicroak, but not with Sneasler.
>>55809869How Alex handles Tesoro would probably be dependent on where he’s present. If he’s there for the final battle, he’d probably betray Tesoro and force him to give over the ToR at gunpoint, upon which Alex would use them to dominate tournaments. Cue whatever shenanigans ensue. If he’s not, then after Bibi (somehow) stops him then he’d probably just become one of the beneficiaries of his pyramid scheme once Tesoro retreats into it.>>55809901I would have adjusted the Glimmora scene though.>The strange Pokemon floated down towards the boy. It looked at him with its beady eyes. >”Front towards enemy, idiot.”>The Ore Pokemon rotated itself 180 degrees clockwise at a mediocre speed, with the feisty woman long gone and the door shut. It slowly closed its petals while turning in the same manner counterclockwise. It stared at him and was promptly put back into its Pokeball.
Has your OC encountered a shiny Pokemon before? What happened? Did they catch it? Did it belong to someone else?
>>55810034>both ingame and in the animeSurprise surprise, NEITHER is my own writing. I don’t have to abide by anything. If I want Koa’s dad to have a super strong Haxorus, that shouldn’t be SO outlandish. Are you seriously having that hard of a time understanding that I’m making it up? All of this is me making it up. I don’t have to do anything according to anyone else’s rules here, other than the core Pokémon setting rules. And the anime is extremely inconsistent anyway. Also, a single Pokémon’s power doesn’t mean the whole species is hard-capped. What Ash’s Pikachu can do isn’t what all Pikachu in the anime can do. Koa’s dad’s Haxorus can probably be as strong as Drayden’s or something, I dunno. Like water off a Camerupt’s back, why don’t you get this?>You can’t do that either, because…I was never seriously considering it either, Alexanon. I was just trying to prove a point by mentioning a Pokémon that is clearly overpowered in the meta. I could’ve said Toxapex or Amoonguss or maybe Incineroar and it would’ve still made sense as a saying. I’m just not giving the meta any thought at all here. Yeah, type matchups are important, but by any and all means, nothing I write will have any competitive relevance because I’m writing a friggin’ shonen where the Pokémon are as strong as I say they are and you can probably lose a fight even with a type advantage because of strategy or sheer power. Or experience, like you said.For the second time, I know that’s what you write, but it’s not what I want to do. It’s not that complicated, man.
>>55810222Sorry if I seem mad here, but I’m honestly getting kinda tired of being told that X thing in my ideas won’t make sense only because >erm, Haxorus is RUBLBecause that’s really not what I’m doing at all. Please give it a rest man. We’ve been over this before, I’m sure.
>>55810207oooh i've actually been meaning to adapt it into a comic or short written piece forever but the story behind how bibi caught ribombee is that she comes across a shiny cutiefly while touring kitakami. kieran points out how unusual it looks and it's adorable, fluttery, and pink so of course she has to catch it. she chases it over hill and dale for almost the entire day but it's super evasive, and her aim still sucks as a newbie trainer. eventually when it weaves out of the way her pokeball connects with another cutiefly flying some ways behind it. at first everyone expects her to be upset but she's totally enamored by her first catch regardless so all's well that ends well
>>55810260That pains my soul. She deserves to have the Shiny.
>>55810222>>55810236I get why you’re taking this angle, but I think you should put more consideration into typical Pokemon logic. I don’t want for a reader to come across your conceptually good writing only for there to be a moment that makes them go “this is ridiculous, how the fuck did he lose that”.
>>55810356Have you stopped for a second to consider that maybe your pre-conceived notions about how strong a Pokémon species can be are only yours, and most people aren’t going to share them?I play Gen 1 OU from time to time. You know who are the strongest Pokémon in there? Tauros, Chansey and Snorlax. If a character used any of these Pokémon in a story in a serious fashion, you’d probably laugh at them. But in Gen 1, they were BUSTED. Does this mean Giovanni was stupid for not running Alakazam and clicking Thunder Wave turn 1? No, of course not. Here’s another example: the first movie, Mewtwo VS Mew. Reasonably, you’d probably think the fight makes no sense. Mewtwo’s BST is far higher and Mew can learn any attack in the game, but it won’t be able to outspeed or hit hard enough to beat Mewtwo reliably. But in the movie it works, because it’s a story where you need both of them to be equally matched for it to be believable.Stan Lee once said that, when two characters fight, the writer always chooses who wins. Yeah, with Pokémon there’s always rules and strategies and advantages and disadvantages, but the way you think about it isn’t going to be how everyone else thinks about it. The only reason why Haxorus VS Kommo-o makes no sense to you is because you have your own way of thinking. I have my own, and other people have different ones too. It’s not that hard.
>>55810356In no way will a reader see two fully evolved dragon types clashing and think "Haxorus MUST lose or this story is bullshit." They're pseudolegends of comparable power, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Game mechanics have way less precedent here than you think, and there are countless times in the anime when a "weaker" Pokemon defeats a stronger one. The story makes plenty of sense, you're putting way too much stock into the meta, which is fine for a over-competitive autist OC but not fine for an editor.
>>55810222>>55810356>Ash’s PikachuThat’s the exact type of thing I’m cautioning against. Realistically, Dragonite and Dracovish would be hard caring his team, but instead it was hard carried by PI-KA-CHUUUUUUUUU from K-K-K-K-KANTOOOOOOO, the living manifestation of plot armor, just to force a matchup against CH-CH-CH-CH-CHARIZAAAAAAAARD from K-K-K-K-KANTOOOOOOO.
Why are we caring over consistency in an IP that gets changed in various ways every year or so in the anime/the various games/cardgame or the fact you have inconsistent shit like pikachu being beaten by a level 5 snivy in the gen 5 anime?
>>55810536>RealisticallyThis is the same show where thunder armour was a thing. None of it is realistic. Yeah okay, maybe it’s unreasonable for a Pikachu to be so strong as to contend with legendaries, but it’s an underdog story. The Pokémon anime has NEVER concerned itself with competitive trends, and it likely never will. Pikachu is the main character, and the main character has to win against the main villain. You seriously have to stop expecting the Pokémon anime to bust out competitively viable strats, dude. It’s a shonen. It’s not a case of “if this Pokémon fights out of its tier it’s got plot armour”. >>55810558I don’t care for consistency, I just want to explain to Alexanon that there’s no fault in having different priorities in writing from person to person. People are different, and people write different stories where different things happen.
>>55810558We have this fight like, every thread. It's tradition at this point.
>>55810573Man I’m sorry that I’m reviving the fight. It just gets tiring to be told the exact same thing every time I try to explain an idea for a match or decide on Hemlock’s team or something
>>55810558Consistency for the IP itself isn’t strong due to Nintendo being Nintendo, but it’s important to have consistency in your stories in order for them to not seem plot armored. Setting rules for yourself and following the makes your story feel well thought out.>Level 5 SnivyYou fool, you have angered the Phos Guy, he is now going to explain to you that Pikachu got nerfed by Zekrom and that Snivy doesn’t learn Leaf Tornado until Level 16.>>55810567I get that you don’t trend towards the meta, but why wouldn’t you care for consistency?>>55810460Mew can be justified by virtue of being “the first Pokemon”, it’s not meta but it works. Gen 1 was very much still a time where GF had lightning in the bottle but didn’t know how to control it, I’d argue that the anime was actually more consistent than the games at that point.Let’s say you eschew all game mechanics, you still need to have an adequate justification for what happens and why. Let’s say Kommo-o gets his shit kicked in by Haxorus, you still need to justify that because one is a well recognized pseudo and the other is a forgettable three stager that’s totally outclassed by its regional pseudo. You should at least have Koa’s dad say some shit like “I taught you everything you know, not everything I know”, that conveys to the reader why something like this happens.
my oc can beat your oc
>>55808782Ended up being League cause Dota still has no role queue and my boy Sniper is picked or banned over half the time. But my statement about the hollow wins applies to both at this point honestly unless it's 5 stack vs 5 stack.
>>55810662God, that sounds soulless. Was it always this way?
>>55810666No, but competent people who could actually put up a fight started draining out of said games and got replaced with incompetent third worlders or only exist in 5 stacks now. As is the case in many things these days. Competent people both as allies and opposition receded due to things going to shit and only exist in more private circles now. So it's definitely that way NOW.
>>55810645I care for my own story’s consistency. If the anime is inconsistent over Pikachu’s power level, then yeah I’m really not going to care about it because it has no relevance to what I write.And who said I’m not going to do that? Yeah, of course Koa’s dad has more experience. Not caring about Smogon doesn’t mean I won’t have explanations and internal logic in my story. Koa’s dad (who seriously needs a name) is an experienced tournament battler. His Haxorus is definitely higher “””level””” than Mo-o, at least within the parameters of what I would consider to be levels in my writing, and it’d be a drag-out slugfest, kinda like Rocky VS Adrian. You know, with things like reflexes, fighting styles, and each trainer’s directions for their Pokémon.All of that would be under consideration. I just want to write more narrative, spectacle-filled fights than standard Smogon fare. That doesn’t mean it’s devoid of internal logic.
In completely unrelated news, you know that “unknown song from the 80s” that people were obsessing about? It was found. It’s from an old porno.https://youtube.com/watch?v=HSX_tlfI_68
>>55810207Emily's Golisopod is a Shiny. She caught it as a Wimpod in some random tropic area.
>>55810207I’ve contemplated giving Alex a Shiny but there’s not one I really like enough. Maybe Aegislash or Archaludon.
>wake up>Koa and Alex are bickering about Pokemon power logic methodologies
>>55810710I’m sorry, anon… I thought it would die after a post or two. I’m just tired of hearing the same thing over and over again. But honestly I have nothing against Alexanon at all
>>55810714This kind of stuff is exactly why I don't want to ever write or see someone draw a scenario where different OCs in here battle AGAINST each other for whatever reason.
>>55810683>I just want to write more narrative, spectacle-filled fights than standard Smogon fareAt the risk of continuing the Ouroboros cycle, why not both? You can write an exciting fight while also adhering the meta. You can also bend the meta, like I did with the Sinistcha vs Dragalge fight two threads ago (although it’s a very short write so it’s not the best example).
>>55809698 (me)I came up with Absol saving his ass one time, then soon after Gene saving Absol a few days later because some humans were abusing it so he proceeded to beat their asses and capture/release absol with a Heal ball to help him (I actually canonize Gene ALWAYS captures with a Healball then when he gets to a town he buys a type specific ball or an ultraball to make them feel comfortable if you accept the theory pokeballs have a simulated habitat in there.) then Absol with no input proceeds to tackle Gene to make him drop another ball and get himself captured without Genes consentGene was very confused in that moment.Riolu and the mega stone are way more specific things I can't come up with a story yet
>>55810723To be fair, Ruka wrote a fight with her Jynx against Bibi’s Koraidon and it was received positively despite its grammatical issues. Phos Guy also claims to be “God’s Favorite” and that he won’t get offended by anything.
>>55810748Yeah but I imagine they're a minority in this thread when it comes to having better temperaments about these sort of things.
>>55810752I think that due to the nature of the internet people and communication through text, people assume that tempers are flaring more than they actually are. The only person I’ve seen with a legitimately angry disposition is the Anti-Emily Schizo that pops in every few threads and I guess Folder Guy during the… the thing.
>>55810723Yeah, me neither. It’d be extremely stupid and it would lead to so many arguments. >”You misrepresented my OC!”>”If your OC did this, my OC would do this and win!”>”We should settle this in Showdown!”Honestly, my only problem with anyone writing a fight where Koa loses to someone else would be why you picked Koa as a jobber specifically. If that kind of thing were to happen, I’d rather they ask me first at least. That said, I’m a sucker for RPing. In an RP, I don’t mind being part of a fight I’m supposed to lose if I at least know the outcome beforehand and it’s decided with consensus. What really irks me is when the outcome is decided either by someone exploiting the combat system or just not going along with logic.Funny example: a Sneasel beat Mo-o in an RP once because he tanked two Close Combats “on the brink of fainting”, then he spammed Psycho Cut. I was just more agreeable and willing to take an L to get out of there. I might sound like a hypocrite now, but an RP isn’t a story written by one person, but rather two. It’s a game, and games need more moderation.>>55810731Simply because I don’t want to. I don’t feel like it. If that’s what you want to do? Do it. But I find the meta to be limiting to writing. It tells me X or Y Pokémon are “unviable” and in a world I can bend to my will, why would I follow that? What I think would be cool is what ends up happening. It’s that simple.>>55810757This too. I may have sounded annoyed here and there, but I’m really not mad at Alexanon. I think he’s a terrific writer, no matter how much we may disagree on some things.
>>55810768>but an RP isn’t a story written by one person, but rather two. It’s a game, and games need more moderation.An RP is a story written by 2 people in real-time. And it is something done for fun and in turn is a 2 way street and is built a bit on trust. If you've seen enough of a character's capabilities and/or they actually manage to logic it in a believable way you tend to just let it slide since actual power trippers never build it in a believable, convincing way in either case anyway. Sensible people can see how much actual thought was put into a well written, strong character and act accordingly. So it acts as a general filter.Personally I think you two need to just get over it and stop discussing it. Just as I don't remark on Koa's small town boy mindset anymore. Cause Koa's just the kind of boy who can't be saved from that kind of mindset, it is what it is.
>>55810796Yeah, that makes sense too. Although what happened there happened in a public forum, and those do need moderators when you’re going to be RPing with people who you probably don’t have much personal experience with yet.And yeah, I don’t really want to talk about it anymore. What actually bothers me is that Alexanon kinda brings it up very often when I’m trying to talk about something else. When I’m thinking about a particular fight, or talking about Hemlock’s team revisions. But I think that if he’s going to bring it up every time I might as well just not contest it at this point. Now it’s kind of on me.
>>55810768See, this is the kind of thing that I tell people to avoid. Even Alex’s Weavile who is really strong will still die to a single CC and is still not as strong as Dragapult or Archaludon.
>>55810818Yeah I'd personally just not respond to those posts at that point. Cause things will just never be seen eye-to-eye. Both sides ought to just sit in their own corners in this case.
>>55810703Having a shiny will cause the reader to go "this is ridiculous, how the fuck did he get that." Do you even understand the statistical improbability of finding a shiny without a shiny charm or a foreign Ditto? It would completely ignore the setting and mechanics and ruin the character.
>>55810736 (me again)Actually how common or how rare is a Lucario/Riolu? The only times I know you get that species is either the egg cynthia gives to you, that gen 6 gym leader, or Sir Aarons movie.
>>55810970It's gotten progressively less rare over time, you can find riolu fairly easily in some regions.
>>55810207I'm not a believer in hard sticking to in game mechanics in one's writing, but my first story about her explores how she met her shiny pawmot (as a pawmi) due to the increased shiny odds meal powers provide lolhttps://pastebin.com/vzA6bHZJ>>55808255>>55808115The seamless transitions between characters in Phos-guy's interview was so cool to read.And there's such a great personality that comes through Bibi-anon's narrator. I love love love reading your guys' work. I can't wait to continue writing later today after reading these. Thanks for all the inspo <3>>55810654is this what peak character design looks like?>>55810965LOL
>>55810985her being Ivy* but I'm sure you could've gathered that much.As for Miko, he has not seen or met a shiny Pokemon yet. Maybe if he crosses paths with Ivy again, he'll see her Pawmot and get all excited since it looks different from his dad's.
So is this what absorbed the edgyverse and fanfic threads?
>>55811162Yes. We have cute OCs, meta OCs, edgy OCs, and we try to keep lewd to a minimum.We want to be more creative and fun than the first ones.
>>55811188I don’t think I’ve seen a single instance of true lewd. Yeah, there’s Phos bikini art (one of which I drew myself), but that’s it.
>>55810965You dare use my own tactics against me? A singular shiny can be justified with “The odds are low, but never zero”, but I agree with that sentiment for more than one. Still don’t know if I’ll go through with it because I don’t like Shinies that much.>>55810985It’s incredible how seamless they are. I could only hope to write something that feels like that.
>>55811197What about Koikatsu Guy’s depictions of Azelie
>>55811197Trust me, lewd exists, is just very rare. Some here made a few, but we don't go crazy over it. We thank them politely at least.We just try to keep those posts in the low so we don't have to deal with a OG /tog/: part 2.See the last thread to see the consequences.
>>55811188Kay, I'll post my shroom guy other people redraw then
>>55811261I specifically try to not go overboard spamming images, making them memes like >>55798014 or put them in spoilers like >>55783082 and not go further because I specifically dont want to drown the thread or the rest of the people in horny or images
>>55809901Azeile seething at the last question was also hilarious.
>>55810645>Phos Guy, he is now going to explain to you that Pikachu got nerfed by Zekrom and that Snivy doesn’t learn Leaf Tornado until Level 16.That wasn't me!
>>55811203>It’s incredible how seamless they areYou're too kind, occasionally. Writing dialogue has always been my strong suit compared to how inexperienced I am with writing action, so I appreciate the opportunity these crossovers represent to mix it up and try a new approach. The key, I think, is giving each character a distinct voice and more importantly a distinct identity for their host that allows your subconscious to pick up on the switch as its happening. Mister Thorne for Phos, who is totally unperturbed by his behavior. Alex for Franco, who is annoyed but remaining polite. And simply "the boy" for Azelie, because it's rude to ask for names in the presence of the Fae. She needs no introduction, but her scene does have the distinction of being the first glimpse of her character portrayed to the public so far. So that's neat.
>writing fic in Google Doc, which means I can embed media for visual references and shit>can't find a reference on pinterest for a specific scene and it's annoying the shit out of me
>>55811716I think visual references are good, but concerning yourself with them too much will hinder your writing. If you can’t find a reference, just rawdog it. Such experiences are how you build your ability to describe things.>>55811692>it’s rude to ask for names in the presence of the faeIt would be funny to see them try to out-arrogance each other.
>>55811788Uuuugh but it's such a paaaaaain and I'm a MASSIVE stickler about people mentally visualizing shit the same way I do. Cause even if you describe something perfectly, people will still interpret SOMETHING differently.
>>55811809If you can’t find a reference image then it’s better to just bite the bullet and write without it. You shouldn’t limit yourself based on what you can find on Pinterest.
>>55811809>Cause even if you describe something perfectly, people will still interpret SOMETHING differently.Welcome to the curse of expressing emotion in a very neutral media, AKA: words.
>>55811692I do have to ask, though, did you make Franco hating the Ludon line up on the spot or is it something that he would actually hate? I find it interesting because of its powerful defensive/offensive typing and respectable movepool, as opposed to Alex’s most hated Pseudo, the Tyranitar line, which has a horrible typing.
>>55812282Nah, he genuinely despises them. When in doubt, write what you know.
>>55812369One thing I don't get is why it's said to rust, but ingame it's resistant to Water. I kind of agree with the first stage, it looks good in firing position but it looks shitty at several other angles. I wonder if part of the reason why Franco chose Fighting types is because he wanted a way to take Ludons down specifically and then realized that none of the normal Dragon counters work against them.
>>55812399Happy coincidence. He originally gravitated towards Fighting-Types because you can't take ten steps near Casseroya Lake without getting mobbed by Flamigo or kicking up a nest of Pawmi, and the latter proved good at warding off the former. Even as he got older, the training habits remained.
>>55812427I find it funny how Alex in turn has a bone to pick with at least one of every OC's favorite Pokemon. Of course, he hates the Mankey line for being volatile and also retarded in addition to being ugly, however he has a bit less hatred for Annihilape due to its unresisted STAB and seeming to have calmed down due to accepting anger as a fundemental part of its being. That being said, it's also a bad defensive typing that has low resistances. I'm very curious to learn more about how Franco raised the ape, as such a volatile Pokemon doesn't appear to be fitting for someone of his composure.
>>55809592Thank you for clarifying that the ties to Unova are from generations ago. I misunderstood and thought that it was a recent migration. Which begs the question of how important are those old Unovan traditions, if the family has been in Alola for many generations and integrated into the culture there? Which traditions are so strongly ingrained into this family's bloodline that they have persisted into the present? Is it simply their connection to dragons? (I think you've mentioned the Unovan dragon clans before.)Since everyone in Koa's family is native Alolan, then there's no reason to switch the grandfather to the mother's side then. And you are right, it's a stronger and more balanced dynamic if Koa's father is directly at odds with his own father. (Because butting heads with his father-in-law could land Koa's father in hot water with his wife.)>spoilerThe thing about a line like that, is it touches on that vicariousness you've mentioned before. That Koa's father, good intentions or not, doesn't want Koa to choose his own path, but follow what his dad thinks he should do. Step one might be proving to his family that he can walk the walk, step two might be proving it to his community, depending on where you want to take this.I'm assuming that Koa is going to have to fight Hemlock. Koa's community's fate might just rely on his chosen path and skills being put to trail.
>>55812516>I'm assuming that Koa is going to have to fight Hemlock. Koa's community's fate might just rely on his chosen path and skills being put to trail.
>>55812532Well you know, if he ever got to actually talk about it without the conversation derailing into "wELl ThAT's nOt cOMpEtitTVe!" then maybe I've have more to work with, hm?
>>55812477It's a bit of an old-school reference. In generation 1, Brock's signature move was Bide, not Rock Tomb. If you picked Charmander, your best counter would be Mankey, but only if you're smart. If you just let Mankey attack, attack, attack while Onix is charging up Bide, you set yourself up for failure. But if you instead have Mankey hold back, size up its opponent (leer) and wait for the perfect opportunity to strike, you can win without ever taking a scratch. So with theatre of the mind, it becomes a charming little character arc where a rookie Trainer proves their worth by controlling a Mankey's anger. For Franco, it was much the same. Recognizing the potential of his Mankey, and providing the discipline needed to make it excel. In some ways, it's a microcosm of his dream of whipping Paldea into shape.
2 pages and another 5000 characters later. Inching along today.
>>55796921Scrapped character concepts from the Alexverse>Andrew Zorn SlyiverThis was intended to be the megalomaniac despot counterpart to Alex's individualist egoism. He was your stereotypical psycho twink crossed with the evil businessman trope. Your typical "I will use my money to take over the world" type of nigga. Where he differed from Alex is a complete lack of nuance, more akin to Hemlock's kind of pure villainy. The idea behind him is that the stakes rise gradually from Act 4 onwards, with a secret war developing between his mercernaries and Heriot Security Services and culminating in him trying to sabotage the World Coronation Series and take Eternatus from Rose. He was scrapped for being too cliche, as well as being too similar to Tesoro and Hemlock.>Darius "Sideburns" BurnsworthMuch like how the evil king was born from the question, "What if Far Cry had Pokemon in it?", this guy was born from the question "What if Payday had Pokemon in it?". His main purpose would be just action filler of crazy heists with his crew. He was scrapped for lacking depth and not having anywhere to go with his story. He may be reworked into a member of Hubert/Sam's mafia, however.>Alyssa WilliamsThe fifth member of Hubert/Sam's mafia and its only female member. Her main purpose would be to serve as a roadblock throwing both a Mega Mawile and Tinkaton at him, pushing him to his limit because he has no reliable way of countering them effectively, forcing him to just brute force his way through them with neutral attacks. She was scrapped because I don't know how to good write female characters, she had a "dominant woman" archetype similar to Phos, not to mention the crop top, and we also already have enough Mawlie users. I've committed to writing only prominent male characters, with the sole exception of Alex's mother, out of fear of accidentally writing coombait.>Damian ThorneThis guy was supposed to hold much closer to Alex's original "opposite N", a poor lone wolf.
>>55812845Proud of you, beaux, keep it up!
>>55812855Outside of circumstances, Damian was nearly identical to Alex with the exception of being even more avaricious and psychopathic due to never becoming rich, and being more receptive to Fighting. He was eventually supposed to become a HSS employee and be taken under Alex's wing, however, he was scrapped for being too similar to Alex. I might tweak this concept and make an alternate timeline where Hubert's dad wins the lottery instead of Monty, Monty dies in a car crash while Alex's mother still dies during the Bombing of Opelucid City, and a few mishaps after that lead to Alex going on a quest to destroy Hubert's company, fueled by nothing except jealousy and anger. Pictured there is Damian. I might keep that design as the disguise for his "Damian Thorne" persona so that he's harder to distinguish from Thorne and Heriot because one wears the suit and one doesn't.
>>55812855>>55812913Inb4 people tell me that akshually these were great characters and I should have kept them.I'm feeling inspired to write about characters other than Alex today, so here's the current team for Hubert in Act 4.>Mega Charizard Y>Kilowattrel>Incineroar>Grimmsnarl>Annihilape>GarbodorAnd this is his team after receiving a Meta Upgrade.>Mega Tyranitar>Gliscor>Skarmory>Incineroar>Annihilape>PangoroWhat do you guys think?
>>55813032The idea behind this is that Hubert's team functions as a defensive hazard control team, utilizing Tyranitar, Skarmory, and Gliscor to overwhelm enemies with Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikesm which is a foil to Alex who is mostly focused on offense and frequent pivoting.
Finally having that belated birthday pizza has me in a mood, I should probably put down the games for a bit and hard focus on the fic now instead of this back and forth shit I've been doing so far today.
>>55813032>What do you guys thinkI think I'm way too tired to think straight with editor-chan chirping about nonsense in my ear. Some of these reasons for getting scrapped are so undeniably Alex that I won't try to change your mind. All I will say is that you shouldn't be afraid of writing a character because it might be too attractive for someone, because we live in a waking punchline where armpits and swimming in formal clothes is enough to get someone's goat. Make a character first and foremost and fanservice second and you'll never have to worry about crossing the line into coombait. Let's dream big tonight, /tog/.
>>55813130Was it good? What was it? Pepperoni? Veggies? Pineapple?>>55813134Good night man.
>>55813190Sausage and Pepperon I'm a bit of a basic bitch when it comes to food.
>>55813134I'm curious, is "Editor-Chan" an actual person you know that helps you with EIF or is it just a voice in your head?>Make a character first and foremost and fanservice secondSee, that's what I want to do, but I don't have enough confidence to tow the line like you do with Phos. I don't have the slightest fucking idea how to do the "uses her body to get what she wants" trope without sliding into coombait or just making "Phos but evil". I don't know how you do it man.Regarding Darius, I just simply don't have any idea where to go with his story, so I'm probably just going to make him Terrorfive. Maybe Alex ends up arriving to stop him during one of his heists because the police can't arrive because ????Andrew and Damian had to be scrapped for plot purposes, namely rejecting overarching antagonists and rejecting sidekicks. Damian has been made into one of Alex's aliases and some parts of Andrew will go into Hubert. I'll admit, I have a bit of an obsession with being idiosyncratic, which leads me to cut things I see as "cliche".
>>55813218Is a'ight. I am basic as well. I love cheese pizza with extra cheese, is awesome. But when I want a treat, I ask for ham and red pepper slices. Hits hard on the belly, but you won't leave unsatisfied.
>>55812855>>55812913>>55813242While I'm on the subject of scrapped content, I may as well reveal the original ending to the Graxum arc (now the Orre arc)At the end of the fight against King William and Prince Pierre, King William's legendary Fakemon suddenly triggers a Mega Evolution out of nowhere, sprouting wings and biting the heads off of the king and his son before flying off to the giant railgun to consume its power. Alex and Dasein head to the central propaganda broadcasting center and hijack it to let the citizens know that they are in danger and need to GTFO from Graxum. As the army arrives, Alex and Dasein flee to the mountain where the railgun is located to fight the Fakemon. Things trend in its favor until Fug comes out of nowhere from the sky and attacks it. Fug and the Fakemon duke it out for a bit, before the Fakemon gets the upper hand. Fug tells Alex and Dasein to hold it off while it goes into the sky to Mega Evolve. They do so, and then Fug comes back with a vengeance right before the Fakemon achieves Maximum Power. Then, out of nowhere, a fake UB (pic related) comes in that Fug has to fight off as well, eventually succeeding. Dasein goes on to become the first president of Graxum while Alex leaves to challenge the Unova league. There was also supposed to be a celebratory party with Steven Stone and Cynthia vacationing in Graxum for some reason. That's as far as I got. This was scrapped for being way too much of a shift in stakes and tone.
>>55813285I can see why it was scrapped. UFOs out of nowhere usually means the writer doesn't have any more ideas (no offense, I'm just thinking aloud).Maybe you can pull this off if you put the stake on the characters rather than the situation. The mega evolution can happen, the death of the main villains can happen, and the trip to the railgun can happen.Maybe you want to plan this as a time for "thinking on the moment" scene. Alex and Dasein try to turn off the generators: doesn't work because the monster is still absorbing energy.Let's duke it out (you can add fug here). Doesn't work because it gets too powerful.Then, dumb idea: let's shot it with the gun. Alex says "that's the stupidiest idea I ever heard". Dasein responds "have any better ones?".Team up time: Fug on the front, Alex and Dasien team on coverage, and only one shot to make it count. The fight is even, the aiming is hard, the beast doesn't yield, and then: opportunity! The beast opens it's fangs, Dasien yells "FIRE!", Alex takes the shot, it hits straight to it's innards, it expands with the new surge of power, while adding the one it absorbed. It's too great, and the beast explodes like fireworks in a open, clear sky!Is over, fug retreats, no longer worried about another being trying to take over the world, Axel is the hero, yet leaves Dasein take the mantle since he is a bit surprised about his questionable yet effective ideas.A celebration later, our man leaves to Unova, and Dasein rules over Graxum, having proven his heroism and wit.
Non burger reporting>>55810207David has a shiny. When he was in Mauville, he helped the elder couple that manages the daycare. There he learned about egg moves, and babymons.While he wasn't thrilled with playing eugenics, he was interested in seeing Pokémon heritage skills, and see babymons evolving when they trainers came back and gave them lots of love and friendship.When he was ready to keep going, the couple gave him a Torchic egg, but when it opened, it was shiny.He also found a shiny Ponyta when he trained in Mt Silver, but it got scared because it detected him, so lost catch.
>>55812516>>55812532>>55812562It’s alright, anon. The argument is long past now. And yeah, my intention is that the Unovan dragon clan’s roots exist in Koa’s family tree, giving their descendants an almost religious devotion to dragons. Koa will most definitely have to face his own father, possibly in battle, before facing Hemlock with newly gained convictions.Although, there’s a certain aspect I had been considering about this part of the story that I wanted to hear some opinions about.I have this idea, where shortly before settling down, Koa’s father and grandfather actually had a battle to settle their differences. It came down to grandpa’s Kommo-o VS dad’s Haxorus. However, grandpa’s Kommo-o was old and tired, and dad’s Haxorus didn’t measure its strength with a Guillotine… as a complete accident, grandpa’s Kommo-o died in that fight. Grandpa simply left without a word, and this caused their falling out. Koa’s dad was racked with guilt, and he retired from competition entirely, instead choosing to settle down with his wife and have a son. However, when Koa was born, grandpa came back to guide a new member of the family. He returned to the Ka’uhane household for around 5-6 years, accompanying Koa and his father in the first partner rites, only to pass away a few months after.I had this idea in mind to explain why Koa doesn’t just battle his dad whenever they have an argument. The battle would have to come after a series of events, and also verbal disagreements, where Koa gains more and more confidence to defend his position against his father, culminating in his father finally agreeing to a battle where their points of view can be tested. I also think there’d be a lot of tension here. Only issue is, it’s pretty dark for what is otherwise a fairly lighthearted story, albeit with more serious overtones and parallels to Hawaii’s own history.
>>55813983>SpoilerHmmm... is true is dark, but you can open it slowly. Koa at first isn't as open about his reasons to do the Trial Circuit, but as time goes on, he realizes he WILL have to fight his father. You can put it as his fear that the story may repeat, but as time goes on, he makes peace with it, and the final battle happens.You can even repeat the event: Koa's Dragon has it by the neck, perfect for Guillotine, but instead, he releases his enemy. His father realizes that Koa has learned both from the new and the old, and stops the fight. Koa becomes League approved, and his father goes to visit his grandfather's grave, and apologizes for what happened that day.Add a moment where his father has an epiphany, and feels his spirit at ease after so long.With one obstacle gone, Koa is ready to face the world on his own now.
>>55813983>>55813996Oh, I forgot>The Unovan Dragon Clan’s roots exist in Koa’s family tree, giving their descendants an almost religious devotion to dragons.Does Koa's family has draconyd blood?[INSERT GRIM DARKWOOD JOKE]
>>55813996My current idea is this:We’re back to the matchup from years ago, Haxorus VS Kommo-o. Koa’s father shows signs of reluctance, remembering what happened years ago. Koa is fearful, knowing what happened the last time his father’s Haxorus had a serious battle. I want the reader to actually fear for Mo-o’s life here, even if for a brief moment. I’d probably write from Koa’s and his father’s perspectives intermittently, showing that his father is reluctant to use Guillotine. However, like father like son, neither truly gives an inch. Stubbornness runs in the family. Koa wants to stay in Alola and not go to Unova (since that’d be the main source of conflict here, that Koa’s father is planning to send him to Opelucid for training), and Koa’s father really doesn’t want to lose. He reluctantly calls out for Guillotine when both Pokémon are at the brink, and… Mo-o manages to parry it with both Dragon Claws, albeit with great difficulty, and finish the fight. Not fully accepting defeat, Koa’s father starts putting up excuses, and Koa reminds him of the family motto: only a dragon can defeat a dragon. As in, his dad lost. It was an honest defeat. Koa’s father realises that his son has grown strong like him, passionate like his grandfather and kind like his mother, and finally agrees to let Koa carry out his Trial Captain goals. Of course, this also allows Koa to keep investigating the Macro Cosmos operations and figure out that Hemlock is actually a rotten Applin.Although, the part where Koa’s dad is finally at peace with the grandpa is a cool idea. I had a similar idea here, where after the battle, Koa’s father hands him his own father’s most prized possession, the Kommonium Z. Grandpa asked dad to give it to Koa one day, when he was ready.>>55814002Just wait until Koa busts out the True Dragon type and a x6 omniboost Clangorous Soulblaze.
>>55813242Editor-chan is a real person. Editor-chan has posted in this general before. I am not schizophrenic, I just have extreme confirmation bias that I have plot armor and/or divine protection. >>55813246Is now a bad time to mention my adoration for anchovies?>>55813983I don't think it's too dark at all. You don't need to elaborate if need be. Some variation of "There was an accident... your grandfather left alone and I renounced battling after that day," is all you really need to get the point across. >>55814047Conflicts where no one is in the right or wrong but both parties are too stubborn to make amends are great. The older generation is never willing to just step down and hand the reins over to the younger generation, all throughout history it has only ever happened under duress or when there's no other choice. We always say that the future belongs to the young, but they're so inexperienced, they don't know as much as we do, are they really ready for it? It's easy and convenient to forget that we were inexperienced once too. The position of Koa's father might not be totally sympathetic, but it's understandable, and that kind of real-world subtext is what makes the rift between them feel real.
>>55814322Thanks for the encouragement! I think this is some of my best story content yet.Here's a concept for Koa's dad and his possible team. Name pending.
>People ask me to explain details of my oc further>Proceed to do that>No one caresnatu is my mood
>>55813342I’ll keep your idea in mind, especially since my story features firearms. The main issue is that now the arc is set in a past version of Orre since I always imagined that Colusseum takes place in a post apocalyptic future. It’s basically Far Cry but with Pokemon now. I think your idea is good, but it also presents a dilema, do I keep it grounded like a Far Cry game and discard that, going for a traditional power vacuum approach, or do I lean into the Pokémon aspect and throw in a fucking Ace Combat superweapon as well as a outrageous movie style fight scene?>>55813983>>55814047This is a great idea, but I don’t think it would really be possible to make the reader fear for Kommo-o’s life, since OKO moves don’t kill, only faint. I’m not sure how you handle death but in my mind a Pokemon must faint first, and only then can it be killed since it is no longer able to take attacks with Pokemon strength anymore, they are taking them like an actual animal would. Since you’re going with the “BECAUSE I MADE IT THE FUCK UP” angle, why not go with Haxorus right about to land the hit, but Kommo-o just pulls it’s tusks apart with its Dragon Claws, and eventually the OKO power fades from Haxorus, allowing Koa to secure the win.This also brings up an important issue that I’ve never been able to really grasp, which is how OKO moves work. I don’t really understand what makes them different from other moves, why does Horn Drill one shot, but not Drill Peck? Why does Guillotine one shot, but not Vice Grip? Why does Sheer Cold one shot, but not Blizzard? I’m tempted to just get rid of them entirely, with Horn Drill becoming a Normal type Drill Peck, Guillotine becoming a Normal type Fire Blast with a flinch chance instead of a burn chance, and Sheer Cold becoming an Ice type Toxic that always freezes instead of always poisoning.Also, if Hemlock is a rotten Applin, does that make Alex a rotten Hydrapple?
>>55814682His design is really cool, but it looks too Japanese (Kantosian) for a Unovan/Alolan family man. I also think you should change Flapple to Appletun. A slow Pokemon for a man who is slow to change his ways, as well as changing out Kingdra for Drampa since it’s from Alola and also somewhat “family oriented” like Haxorus.
>>55814751Nonsense, nonsense. You simply provid such a good summary that it leaves no room for debate.
Well that's a bit more writing done before bed. Have a good day y'fageronis.
>>55814979Ah, I wasn’t thinking about Drampa. It could be a good idea. Appletun is one I considered, but I have some reservations about using the Pokémon I like especially as antagonists. I threw Flapple in there because I’d feel only a little better about making it a jobber. But I think if I do that too much I’ll be limiting myself. As per his design, I was mostly thinking about Grimsley’s outfit in Sun and Moon. Also, the black and white split, with the dragon patterns, was supposed to bring in some Unovan imagery. I mean, I can always draw this man more lol remember when Hemlock was bald?
>>55814988NTA, but that's a bit *too* optimistic. I share the same feeling as he does. I guess Natu is a bit of a mood for me too.
I’m considering this team for now. Druddigon was a bit too redundant, and Noivern is a bit too noisy and energetic for the vibe the rest of the team has. Sorry for stepping on you again with Dragalge, Alexanon. But hey, if you guys have suggestions, feel free to let me know.
>>55814988I'm not koanon, I'm koikatsu guy, I was referring to >>55809698 >>55810736I know I said Gene had no real story, so there isn't really a thing to debate or talk about, but I did felt a bit ignored since no one replied.
>>55815064could you also post koa's team for comparison?
>>55815064I really think Druddigon should be kept on. Two Unovamons, Two Alolamons, Two Foreigners. His dad is also a retired competitor, right? Although he might not have as much thought put into his team, Druddigon could serve as a “backup” for Haxorus when it’s down, or be used as fodder to weaken an enemy before Haxorus finishes it off. I’d prefer that Kingdra and Dragalge be replaced, but let’s say you don’t, Dragalge can have a defensive utility setup with Toxic Spikes for Kingdra to then come in and take advantage of the chip damage from the Spikes. >>55815159Koa’s team consists of Kommo-o, Excecutor-A, Garchomp, Tyrantrum, Tyranitar, and Milotic. I’m not sure if he’s going with the Baxcalibur that I suggested to him last thread.
>>55815064>>55815193I agree that maybe he should have more unova representation. I thought druddigon was a fine choice, and hydreigon is always an option if you want to make him seem more like an antagonist. I like the choice of drampa and turtonator for him as it gives him a wise and prickly vibe as well as fitting in with his ties to alola. kingra feels patriarchal which is also fitting for his character. Some other pokemon that feel fitting based off vibes alone are salamence and gyarados. A curveball suggestion would be to give him an aurorus as sort of a counterpart to koa's tyrantrum. maybe he got one to ensure he wouldnt be defeated by other dragon trainers or something?
>>55815092Yeah, *I’M* Koanon. Accept no substitutes.>>55815159>>55815193Keep in mind though, half the team is currently NFE. Gabite, Tyrunt and Larvitar. As per the Frigibax, I’ve considered it and it seems like a fun idea. Although, Larvitar already fills the role of a runt in training. I’m sure Frigibax will find its place in the story at some point, though.>>55815400Some good ideas. I’m surprised people liked Druddigon after all. However, Koa’s dad is a lot more close-minded than Koa is about non-Dragon types, since I originally wrote a tidbit where Koa’s parents are shocked that fossil Pokémon exist. He’d bring Tyrunt home and they’d be horrified at first from the idea of a prehistoric Pokémon existing in their house.Two Unovans, two Alolans, two others. Although, if Koa’s dad were to pick up a non-Dragon type post-story, he’d take a cue from his son and maybe grab Archeops.
>>55815400Hydreigon is out of the question because Hemlock already has one. Aurorus is also out of the question as I remember that Koa’s dad is against Koa resurrecting Tyrunt from the fossil. I would replace Dragalge with Salamence and Kingdra with Gyrados, Koa has three pseudos on his team so his dad should have at least one. Goodra and Dragonite could work, but there’s a chance that Koa Guy might give Goodra and/or Dragonite to Koa as well, based on it being relatively fitting. Plus, Salamence’s Dragon/Flying is a foil to Koa’s Dragon/Fighting just like it’s a foil to Hemlock’s Dragon/Dark. It might also be a good opportunity to show off Tyranitar, Kommo-o would have difficulty hitting it, but then Tyranitar can just Rock Blast it out of the sky.
>>55815424>Koa has 3 pseudos on his team so his father should have at least one.This makes sense. I briefly considered Salamence, but I was concerned that it might steal Haxorus’ thunder. On the other hand, I do like my David and Goliath moments, and seeing the little runt Larvitar being an ace in the hole against an otherwise overpowering force could be pretty cool. Gyarados could work, except I’d imagine Unovan tradition is more type purist than the Kanto/Johto ideas that Koa adopted for his own team. Also, I know you’re going to tell me it’s kind of cringe for Koa to have NFEs, but he’s 14 and the story is about his growth. He’s not an accomplished champion like Bibi or Emily, he’s making his mark just now. A more accomplished Koa would have Baxcalibur as a 7th, and hell, maybe an Altaria too, why not?
>>55815421I felt that appletun was the most ill-fitting mon on his team so this is a nice change in my opinion
>>55815451>It might steal Haxorus’s thunderI think this is actually a good thing. Salamence putting in more work than Haxorus during the fight would make Koa’s father realize that his Haxorus isn’t as mighty as he thinks it is, combined with Kommo-o parrying Guillotine at the end. I thin Gyrados should be included, it would show that although Koa’s father holds closer to tradition, there’s still some cracks deep down inside. I think the way that Salemence should be taken down is Pupitar struggling to land a hit, then it evolves and manages to start landing hits and takes it down.
>>55815493I feel like we’ve lost a bit of the quirkiness of Kingdra and Dragalge, but I can see Gyarados and Salamence working. Koa’s father was a super aggressive battler, so specialist or no, these are good picks.>PupitarSandy’s a Larvitar, not a Pupitar. I think it’d be kind of nonsensical for Koa to end the story with his entire team fully evolved, and the one evolution I do see happening is Rebel the Gabite evolving into Garchomp. If I have one of Koa’s NFE Pokémon evolving per major fight, that’d be 4 evolutions, and the reader’s going to come to expect it. You might say it wouldn’t make sense for an NFE to beat a pseudo or something, but the writing is what matters to me most.
>>55815451I think Baxcalibur deserves to reach its final evolution right before the fight with Hemlock to bolster Koa’s team. It would also provide more challenge to the fight due to Hemlock using Steel types. Having NFEs is fine for his story because it’s not super drawn out across years like Alex’s is, but I think they should all be fully evolved by the end. Koa grows and we get to see all of his Pokémon grow with him.
>>55815551WOAHWOAHWOAH we literally just said that Frigibax would hatch from an egg halfway through the story, are we going to have the 7th member evolve twice now? We gotta calm things down lmao character development takes time
>>55815569You didn’t tell me he’d get it halfway through the story. I was expecting him to win a small time tournament early on as an action filler sequence to keep the story interesting and then raise Baxcalibur with Larvitar.
>>55815629Well, I’d call that halfway. I’m thinking in chapters here. The thing is, I don’t think Koa’s team should be all fully evolved by the end. Evolutions, the way I think of them, are kind of a special event that a Trainer can experience maybe once, twice a year if they’re good. It’s a mixture of how well a Pokémon is being trained, circumstance/necessity, and age. If we have Koa’s whole team evolve, we’d have:>Gabite to Garchomp>Tyrunt to Tyrantrum>Larvitar to Pupitar>Pupitar to TyranitarAnd if we add Frigibax, that’d be two more. If I want to write, say, 10 chapters, that would mean there’d be an evolution in 6 out of 10 chapters. It would grow stale.
>>55815092Oh, I know, I keep track of everyone's posts. >>55815058I read everything that gets posted, I promise. If you would prefer, I could start mass-replying to everyone, but I feel it's a little overbearing. My main concern is that, between Eons in Flux and its related projects, I already dominate a lot of the discussion as it is. As funny as it is to pretend to be a narcissist, I don't want to actually BE one, I'd much rather leave the floor open for others to voice their thoughts.But by all means, tell me if I'm overthinking it.
>>55815666Make the Larvitar a Pupitar. Frigibax and Tyrunt can be the runts while Larvitar gets it’s pupa shenanigans. You could also have Tyrantrum from the start, but I’m not sure if you would want to do that. The thing about shonenshit is that it’s inherently predictable, so you don’t need to worry as much about predictability as I do when writing my Black Lagoon type of shit. If I were you, in order to make the story less predictable I would have Koa lose the fight against his father, but only by a razor’s edge, and have him go behind his back anyway to investigate Hemlock while being tormented by the thoughts of “breaking tradition” and “being dishonorable”; this also serves as the catalyst for him to further assert himself in his hybrid ways. I’d also ditch the “pure of heart” and “pure evil” shit, blurring the lines through Hemlock bringing some genuine benefits to Alola and Koa doing some things he regrets, but keeping the contrast between them Koa ultimately using his mistakes to learn and grow while Hemlock’s “good” actions only bolster his hubris and boldness.
>>55815741Sadly, we have different tastes in that regard. But I can always try to paint Hemlock in a bit more of a favourable light when it comes to the benefits he does bring. There’s good and bad in there. However, he’s still the villain and this is kind of a shonen anyway. Oh BTW, I’m actually feeling more invigorated to write now. Who knows if I might have something to show in the coming days?
Let’s see where we’re at… I still have a ton of work to do. I’ll admit I hadn’t written in a LONG time.
>>55816180Godspeed. Don't feel obligated to publish a doorstopper like I do (that goes for everyone), I don't think anyone will object to having smaller, more frequent chapters.
>>55815956I will say though, I think you should have kept Hemlock’s more generic business design as well. It adds to the “wolf in sheep’s clothing” dynamic in addition to the economic growth.
My working day is over, we'll go write our cares away.
>>55813817I intended mentioning battling Koa's dad and Hemlock as an invitation to elaborate (I'm curious about Hemlock), but we'll get to Hemlock when you're ready.>>55815569Yay! Yay! Yay! Glad to see all the workshopping for Koa-anon!If you haven't decided already, I have an idea for how Koa gets his Frigibax egg. The Paldea region also has a dragon clan. Maybe some representatives can come visit the dragon clan in Alola and speak with the clan heads. And, as it is customary for both guests and hosts to exchange gifts, the Paldea representatives can bring some Frigibax eggs. Koa's family gets one and it is decided that Koa gets to raise it.
>>55817435I'm not Vega.
>>55817444Mom is never coming home. :(
>>55796921>thread taskbit rushed bc i'm on the maddest time budgets as of late>thread questionbibi doesn't quite like ending back up in the hospital. or having her perception of herself and the world shattered (but don't worry bibi that's what being 14 is all about)>>55809698if you're still stuck on the riolu bit you can find them in the wild, seeing as how gene's obviously got a strong sense of justice maybe it honed in on that?>>55810280lmao she's got 2 legendaries, her team's flashy enough as is, i'll nickname my own shiny ribombee after her in honor of her failed attempt>>55810752well i said it before but i mean, at the end of the day so long as you're portraying someone else's oc out of a sense of affection isn't it fine? it all comes down to good faith. there's slim chance someone will get your character's personality or looks 100% right since, barring flux anon, most of us don't have an easily accessible story to use as reference. when other anons on this board draw or write bibi i'm not so concerned about accurate portrayals, i'm just happy they like her enough to feature her. frankly, bibi could have lost the ruka fight and i'd have liked the fic anyways because it would still be clear that anon didn't write things that way to spite me or something and theoretically if someone did do something like that, well, i know i'm not the best writer in the thread but i've emphasized enough that the point of her character arc is accepting that there's more to life than winning, if they think having bibi job a fight would be some sort of "gotcha" all it would do is speak to their lack of reading comprehension skills >>55810985man the way you draw plusle and pawmot is just darling>>55815046seconding drampa!
>>55817631Oh, hey bibi booboo. I was just thinking about ya. Finally awake enough after work to read through everyone else's posts. Glad to finally have Tesoro on paper. He's not nearly as (as) hateable as I thought he would be. He's not sympathetic, but he's an understandable kind of rotten the way I understand why sulphur stinks.>>55803678Very creative approach to greentext the story. The short lines are a good match for your snappy dialogue style. You played both characters well, but I'm surprised David has such a strong reaction to the blonde hag. He didn't seem like the bitter type up until then. my wingman at work has your exact same speaking style, so unfortunately for you, David has the voice of a sixty-year-old Mexican man.>>55806563Huh, wait, am I hallucinating? >>55810985Ah, I knew I wasn't nuts. The start of the story seemed eerily familiar until I realized I opened the wrong link. You and I are in a race to see how many words it takes to crash a word document. You carry a lot of frantic energy in your writing which I can appreciate. My writing leans on the "sentimental" side, so I'm glad you can say more in the same word count. Thank you for shining a spotlight on my favorite pikaclone Plusle, it almost makes up for saying anything bad about spiders.
>>55817844Tesoro is lovable!
>>55818188Six-fingered Habsburg hands typed this post. If you make the pink-haired dope cry, I will use you to fertilize my habaneros.
>>55817844i do like living in people's heads, though can you blame me with rent prices? i'm glad tes' response wasn't boring to read through seeing as he's definitely still in the draft phases, god knows when/if he'll ever leave. he was content to mostly yoshikage kira his way through life (well. something close to it anyways, someone so self absorbed isn't about to make any sort of honest living) but meeting bibi has him make riskier plays and feeds into his habit of making impulsive decisions. being caught offguard by alex has him cautious but i'd write him as a suitably hammy villain in any scenario where he's got the upper hand. i love him like i love my other two ocs even if he's very much a scumbagit's also cool to read different anons approach to writing, so many creators here have fun, snappy, exciting dialogue but i tend to rely heavily on narration because that's what i have the worst time writing. the sentimental tone you use really helps make the scenes vivid and ground the reader in the world though. also, absolutely based taste in pikaclones
Non burger reporting>>55817631Poor Bibi, I'd visit her everyday until she gets out.>>55817844Thanks for the compliment.>David doesn't look like the bitter typeI want to paint him as the guy who isn't afraid to speak his mind, but when he opens his cake socket and starts, he won't stop until he says his mind, or someone else shuts him up. That earned him some applauses, some fists other times, and A LOT of slaps when talking with ladies.>Has a strong reaction to the blonde hagHe usually burns Cynthia fans when they drool over her, saying "you only like her because she kicked your ass many times, that's why you have a dom fetish now". Needless to say, he isn't very welcome in Sinnoh. He respects her, but he hates when battles take too long (a reference to both Sinnoh's play speed, and how Spiritomb has high stats and basically impossible to STAB because Ghost/Dark didn't had weaknesses until G6)>SpoilerWell, he is a self insert, so he sounding like me must be an accidental coincidence. I was born in capital Buenos Aires, my parents are peruvian, and yet people tell me I sound either mexican, venezuelan, or bolivian. Funny how accents work.
>>55815718There are lots of low points when barely anything is happening in the thread that would probably improve from the increased activity.
>tfw just noticed that my ability to fluff up words in a fic is very lacking cause it mostly comes out when bouncing off of someone else's writing like in an RP.Ugh.
>>55817631>crybibiSo perfect. I think I love the way you draw eyes the best, and the effect on hers here are so cool.>>55817844Ah sorry, I should've tagged the story as a repost or something to clarify. >You and I are in a race to see how many words it takes to crash a word document.Funny you say that because I was the poor bloke who had pastebin crash on them when writing the interview. I feel as though I'm a bit oblivious as to how my writing might come off to others, so I really appreciate that there's a vibe here and that it isn't boring, thanks! I'm making an effort to spice up my writing and try and add some personality to it after reading everyone's stories. And I'm glad to see a fellow Plusle enjoyer out there. While Ivy might despise Galvantula based on trauma, I personally have no qualms against it- or any other spider Pokemon for that matter. I am a huge baby when it comes to spiders irl though >>55818801Terrible suggestion here, but simply develop an alter ego or split personality to bounce writing and ideas off of. Easy fix :)
>>55819094>Terrible suggestion here, but simply develop an alter ego or split personality to bounce writing and ideas off of. Easy fix :)I'm not autistic *enough* and not a schizo. So probably wouldn't work.
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>>55819139Nega Brendoom will use Sleep Powder so you oversleep 5 more minutes!
>>55818563>spoilerThat's fine. My poor abuelito winces whenever I talk to him en español and tells me I sound like an Italian. You two just happen to use a lot of the same sentence structure when making the switch from spanish to english, and I'm sure there's some fun psychology behind it that I'm not qualified to get into. >>55818753Noted. >>55818801When you say fluff, do you mean adding detail to describe it, or just searching for that perfect synonym to spruce up a sentence? I know you won't rest until it's perfect, just don't be afraid to bookmark an idea and come back to it later. >>55819154>wake up>type a few words >fall asleep >repeat until it's 4:25amThat little purple bast
>>55819320>When you say fluff, do you mean adding detail to describe it, or just searching for that perfect synonym to spruce up a sentence?Both. Just making the sentence more interesting to read with analogies and stuff like those along with just more apt descriptions of things in general.
>>55819094>>55818563Gente española encontrada, procediendo a usar la Ñ palabra nobody expects the spanish inquisition
>>55819349¡Crecemos en número! Vamos a conquistar a todos los anons americanos a este paso…>>55817631Noooooo why is she sick again… I cry every time…>>55817359That seems good! I can fuse the tournament/Paldea dragon clan concepts into one.Although, what do you mean with “curious about Hemlock”? I’m already happy with his team. It’s pic related. I’m not moving it from there, even if Alexanon asks to add a Toxicroak in there. Toxicroak could be a 7th in reserve, I dunno.
>>55819389Toxtricity already fills the same character niche as Toxicroak for "cold-blooded punk," with a reptile instead of an amphibian. Personally, I think Toxicroak is better, but that's because I hate Toxtr
>>55819389Like I said before, you should keep Roserade in for the public matches and switch to Toxicroak in private.>>55819436I told him to add a Drapion in there but he says that he likes Drapion too much to do that. To me personally Toxitricity is one of those “neutral” Pokemon that doesn’t have any kind of particular connotations to it. If I had to attach something to it, it would be a Pokemon for stereotypically laid back people. Alternatively, Forretress, Aggron, or Ferrothorn could already be a choice since according to Koa, Magnezone and Klinklang are made redundant by Archaludon.
Awake, but at what cost.
>>55819389do you think amped up toxtricity fits more than its lowkey counterpart?
>>55819950While it definitely helps to have a similar temperament to the mons you're training, it's not really a necessity. It's easy to build trust with someone who says and does all the right things, but it's the mark of a skilled Trainer to be able to bridge that divide and earn the respect of something that would prefer to go its own way if it could. I don't know enough about the character to say which form would better suit his mood, but it's not out of the question to say that Hemlock takes some time out of his schedule to let an amped-up Toxtricity cut loose, knock back a swamp water Manhattan cocktail, and scream until it's got that energy out of its system.
>>55819389>Although, what do you mean with “curious about Hemlock”? I’m already happy with his team.Thank you for the refresher on Hemlock's team. I remember when you were adjusting it a few threads ago when we were talking about Dynamax/Gigantamax candidates.What I meant though was Hemlock as a character. The role he plays in Koa's story and how their stories intertwine.
>>55819950A possible reason that Hemlock selected that variant is because it might be more aggressive in combat.>>55820243From what I remember, he dupes Kukui and Hala into a rapid industrialization of Alola, bringing huge economic benefit at the expense of turning it into a corporatocracy with Hemlock at its head. I’m not sure what extrajudicial bullshit Koa will pull in order to get rid of him, and likewise I’m not sure how Hemlock exactly fudges Alola’s legal system.
>>55820243>>55820290It’s all good.Well, basically, here’s the thing: I don’t think any of us can really tell how Pokémon regions are run. Do they have governments? Democracy? Do they vote? Are the Leagues the ruling bodies? Does the Champion get to decide laws? And at the same time, I think trying to answer all those questions is kind of pointless. So, here’s part of what I currently have:Hemlock sells his plans by stating that Macro Cosmos should give back to the world after the Eternatus disaster, so with Kukui’s support, he starts to conduct a series of infrastructure projects, starting with adding a power grid for Poni, smack-dab in the middle of the Vast Poni Canyon and using Dynamax Energy. This would bring electricity and heating to Seafolk Village, which previously had each household or business running with independent energy (so if you didn’t have a Fire or Electric type at home, and maintained it properly, you’d be screwed). The problem is, not only is the project extremely damaging to the environment, but it also harms the local wildlife. Hemlock slowly starts importing invasive species from other regions, and the new Dynamax Energy is causing some of the native Pokémon, which were previously unfamiliar with it, to get sick: namely the Tapus, due to Eternatus’ Poison typing influencing the Dynamax radiation that now floods the area and turned it into a Dynamax Spot, and the Totem Kommo-o, who is physically in severe pain because he can’t grow any bigger, so he’s constantly aching. Hemlock chose this spot strategically as a sort of test on the effect that his infrastructure would have on the wildlife, because he wants the Totems and Tapus gone to make Alola defenseless and dependent on him.
Hmmm...no, this espionage bit feels like bad pacing, but god it feels difficult to come up with anything else since all my ideas that don't just jump right into the thick of shit involves introductions to various Emily-facets to a partner and shit, easing them into the stuff she can do, how she acts, etc.Uuuuuuuugh. I haaaaaate solo fic writiiiiiing.
>>55820409So, how does Hemlock dupe Kukui and Hala, the closest thing to political leaders here, into doing all this? Simple. Alola is very light on bureaucracy because the village chief would just run everything before. As in, a local trusted figure who was acquainted with everyone and would give counsel to anyone whenever needed. This means, no one really takes up bureaucratic spots or has to inspect anything because they all sort of lived on mutual trust. Essentially, Alolans were pretty gullible and thrived on trusting each other for a long time. The more Alola started becoming more like other regions, this level of social cohesion started going down because competitive spirits started to rise, which led to the appearance of things like Team Skull, for example. However, Hala is an old fart, and he’s still going to put his best foot forward to someone who says he wants to lend a hand.This whole story is about Alolans giving him the benefit of the doubt and failing to see the signs because they’re all too good-mannered. When this comes to bite them in the ass, they can only prevail with unity, and learning from the lessons they just experienced.Taking some old values, like social cohesion, with some new values, like being more competitive with foreigners and more savvy about what someone else might be planning behind your back.TL;DR they failed an Insight check against Hemlock’s Deception check.As per Hemlock? Hemlock’s character is simple. He grew up in the dumps of Spikemuth with no father and with a mother who only wanted him to get rich. So he got smart, he got strong and he got indeed rich, by climbing the ranks of Macro Cosmos ruthlessly. He hates Alola because he thinks they’re all naïve, backwards savages who are all cushy with each other. Alola’s a family, which he never had. So for Hemlock, it’s the ultimate act of revenge to subjugate them economically for his own gain.
>>55820421I thought Emily's idea of stealth was "it still counts as stealth if nobody is there to report, right?"Jk, jk. But maybe you can put the main idea here, and we could spitball ideas.Where is she sneaking? How is she sneaking? When is she sneaking? She is small, so that's a plus. Does she use a special item to cloak herself? Is she going old school, and is avoiding cameras to not be detected? What about the guards? Professional mercs ready to drop lead when a needle drops? Or you have Larry, who is at two days of retirement and today he feels extra grumpy, so he is slacking instead?Holla if you need help, man.
>>55820490>I thought Emily's idea of stealth was "it still counts as stealth if nobody is there to report, right?"Yes, but at her blonde haired sister's behest, she's opting to avoid casualties where possible so none of the enemy suspect anything going forward. The espionage is for Emily to take one of Arai's devices into a server room so it can make a backdoor for Arai to access later and find out what the "Collective" (human supremacy cult enemies) are doing.
>>55820421Oof, it would suck to have to do a rewrite when you're already so far in. See if you can't find another way to ease into the adventure. Doing odd jobs around town or favors for a bed&breakfast for a few days before trouble saunters by and starts kicking up a fuss.
>>55820499That's the other issue. I dunno how to really ease into it solo. Emily's a very no-nonsense, direct kind of girl. The fact she is sneaking around at all is at Arai's behest but she's the type to just go in the very same night it was brought up and just use every trick and tool at her disposal with no semblance of taking things slow at all and it ends up feeling like a big dump of tricks she has learned how to do and has taught her Pokemon over her 2 years as a Trainer all at once for a reader. Like the fact that she can link with one of her Pokemon at a time by having them out with her and use abilities that would be feasible with said Pokemon's type. Like how her Aegislash could effectively enable her to go about it like Dishonored/Dishonored 2, shadow-blinking around and such through a room and avoiding detection entirely. Cause Emily's whole thing is that her own Infinity Energy sorta resonates with her Pokemon's and it becomes like a force multiplier-- so in turn she tends to actually be at the front doing stuff ALONGSIDE her Pokemon. Arai prefers doing all her own fighting and keeps no combat Pokemon. Mari, the third sister is more traditional and just lets her Pokemon be at the front while still giving them the same boon Emily does to her own Pokemon. And I don't like that feeling of just dumping all that shit in at once due to the nature of the scenario where she's just right to business, infiltrating a building to secure a digital backdoor into the servers stored there for Arai to tap into later. And I guess this answers >>55820490 a bit more than I initially did too.
>>55820525I see... well, you could "force" her to rely on wit, because Team Mcguffin has a tool that let them detect Infinite Energy, so she can't use her broken tools.But as for skills, she can still use her strength and the advantage of being small to sneak with tables/boxes. Use her team as an external distraction while she is inside.Maybe you can go with that. Put some stealth tunes to get in the mood. I know is weird, but I love this little jingle, so I feel it may work.>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iu-6kSbq4RU
>>55820594>I see... well, you could "force" her to rely on wit, because Team Mcguffin has a tool that let them detect Infinite Energy, so she can't use her broken tools.Logically doesn't make sense though, it would also trip false positives constantly. They're literally secretly shipping around Harvested Infinity Energy. And sensors for it near the rooftop makes no sense cause it'd just go off from wild bird Pokemon landing on the roof at all. Also they have no real reason to suspect anyone is coming from the roof anyway since they also have no idea anyone is even onto them to begin with. Lots of logic-holes here.
>>55820525Have you considered having another, random character like Gene or someone else that just has no stakes or real plot going on, he notices and goes "Hey wait wtf, that was cool, how you did that?" and it more or less ends up unraveling from there?
>>55810748Hehe I wrote it while I was taking orders in the drive through so I didnt really proofread. Just really wanted to make it. It also probably helps that I was open to letting Ruka lose.
>>55820668I need you to elaborate further anon, I don't quite get what you mean.
i do hate to be That Guy but archive anon, my everything, the one who hung the moon in the sky, think we could get this piece up in there? it's one of the nicer things i drew but i noticed it was missing when i crawled through the mega a while back lmfao>>55818304kek>>55818563the fact that he holds a grudge against cynthia even if he respects her is fun, it's not often you get to read stuff like his rant given how well liked she is both in universe and by fans (well.....aside from He Who Shall Not Be Named)>>55819094funnily enough, while i love bibi's stupid swirly glasses, drawing eyes is actually my favorite part of the process which contributes to why i ditch them so often.>>55819389>>55820467less sick and more "just got mauled by a wild pokemon" but even though she knows she's not trapped there forever it's still upsetting to her. hope i'm not stepping on your toes here but it's pretty funny to think that tesoro and hemlock are a bit similar background wise since i also pictured his dad being out of the picture most of his life and his mom raising him to be pretty cutthroat.
>>55820706Someone else to bounce off, or to make conversation. If what worries you is how you are going to proceed to show in rapid succesion what a character does, maybe having another char to which they explain some of their capabilities works better, if what worries you is basically rapid firing concepts with no build up
>>55820844I dunno what character to really pair her with on this adventure of her's is another issue.
>>55812855Getting these things out led me to gain inspiration for them. Isn’t it funny how the world works.Unlike Alex’s story that’s set over a very long period of time, this storyline is supposed to be shorter and more action based. It’s kind of like a movie. Open with a classic bank robbery scene, but with Pokémon in it. Darius and his crew bust in, get into the vault with his Nidoking Horn Drilling, grab the cash, and get out with an Excadrill’s tunnel. This is supposed to be like one of the smaller banks in Payday. Throw in a classic getaway scene, cut to the gang’s safehouse and subsequent celebration of another job well done. Don’t know what happens in between but I’m guessing it’ll be SOL or more small time heists. Then, one day, they decide to go after a bank truck. Ferrothorn opens it and they get away with 10 million dollars… of Alexander Heriot’s money. Cue the murder twink hunting down the crew’s members, capturing and killing them one by one, either mid-heist or by isolating them from each other, making sure to send Darius each video. Eventually, only one little soldier boy is left, so Darius, having lost both his ill gotten gains and his friends, decides to hunt Alex down.Darius infiltrates a masquerade ball attended by Alex and some of the most prestigious names in the Pokemon world (this might be changed due to masquerade balls being obsolete). After your standard socialite fares, Alex takes notice that there’s a rather odd looking fellow with prominent sideburns at the ball. Immediately pulls out his gun and shouts at him, “YOU, DEVIL! UNMASK YOURSELF AT ONCE!”, before Darius calmly asks if this is a joke. Once he makes it clear that it’s not a joke, Steven Stone and Cynthia try to get Alex to calm down, but then they just step away once they fail because he’s the one with the gun. Nidoking and Archaludon come out to play, Darius is confident at first, but then Archaludon starts sweeping
>>55820865Make the character an accidental fan. Emily goes into the HQ in style, doing super gacha girl stuff, and then: one witness."Girl, that's awesome!". Cue the guy bringing unwanted attention, this attracts team Mcguffin, she escapes on time, and now she has to deal with a guy that is like the kid of The Incredibles.
>>55820908Ech, I am not really into the whole "incidental fan" thing unless it's something of a partner's choosing. Deciding it myself feels...conceited.
>>55820797Huh, I thought for sure that it was in there. As soon as I can keep my eyes open for longer than thirty seconds, I'll get that squared away.
>>55820872Which forces Aggron to go Mega early. Nidoking getting off an EQ or two allows Aggron to make Archaludon switch out, but then he gets KOed by Dragapult’s Fire Blast. Dragapult rips through Gliscor and it’s at this point that Darius realizes the situation is hopeless, but continues fighting anyway because he wants to prove a point. He brings out Ferrothorn to get Dragapult to waste its remaining three Fire Blasts, then brings out a Dark type, which makes Dragaput U-Turn back into Archaludon. A Critical Night Slash KOes Archaludon, so Alex brings out Weavile to finish off the Dark type before a final duel with Excadrill. After Excadrill loses, he’s unceremoniously mauled by Weavile.Like Alex’s story, this one is also intended to feature a lot of “justice” motifs, “who determines what justice is”, “what is justice”, etc, it’s supposed to make the reader question if Alex is justified or if he’s going too far
>>55820946>If Alex is justified or is going too farWell, one guy could say he is going too far by killing people, but I'm not the one who lost 10 fucking million dollars.
Thread tasks, go go go! >We know what our goals are and what we want to accomplish, but what's the one thing your OC thinks they could never, ever do? >Has your OC ever done any volunteer work? Working at a Pokemon Day Care, cleaning up a local park our route? Was it their choice or were they dragged along by someone else? Did the experience do anything to shape the Trainer they are today? >What does your OJ dream about in their sleep? Past events, stressful what-ifs, something more abstract? Are they lucid dreams, or is your OC just a spectator? >What's a hidden talent your OC isn't aware they have?
>>55821029I don’t know if this is a good idea, but a task that came to my mind was: “Make a design for someone else’s OC”. So like for example I would try to come up with some dark blue suit with gold accents for Tesoro (well, if I could draw, that is). And a question I came up with related to that is “What’s your design philosophy for your OCs?”
>>55821056By “design” I meant “outfit”
>>55821056An interesting idea but >(well, if I could draw, that is)kinda underscores how practical it would be. It's hard enough for a beginner to draw their own content, asking a newbie to draw someone else's character, and then go off-model with a new outfit? Fuggedaboutit.
>>55821029My idea was "how did your OC first meet their starter/partner/ace pokemon and how did they end up catching them?""Also what kinda relationship does your OC have with that pokemon?"
>>55821132That was mostly just aimed at the people who can draw
>>55821029Shouldn't we have saved this for next thread? Speaking of which-- not it. I will not bake.
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>>55819139Took me too long to realize there was a Venomoth behind him and he didn't just sprout wings out of nowhere.
