News about any upcoming Events? Bleck.Dead and dated memes you gotta pay like $8 for? Now we're talking.
the devs are so retarded they didn't give older gas mask cosmetics the new sound effect they have on the new smoke-filter one.anyways the only acceptable outfits you can buy are the ones that are sponsor-spam shit.
Business idea: Drones since maps are too small for vehicles
tranny game
>>1266940yeah the urban warrior packs are always ass idk why people spend 20 buck per bundle on that shit
I wish the Finals had the same level of support as early fortnite or minecraft. I don't think the main game mode is as standalone as conquest+tdm, nor do I think the limited amount of guns + nerfed mirrors edge movement is enough to satisfy when you often play in shorter bursts and very rarely have drawn out parkour offs.
I'm disabling crossplay, the only reason I had it on before was because the game would simply never find a match without it
>>1267073cope harder tranny
>>1267769enjoy your hideous art style faggot
>>1267073even doe ruZZians play this
>>1266940>fire is still useless>smoke is still useless>invis still unfun to fight>75% of the weapons are still useless>devs still trying to push for a comp scene>light is still the weakest class>devs still nerfing weapons instead of buffing the garbage ones>map events still have no impact on matches>devs still have no idea what the game is supposed to be>devs still don't realize that any game that requires teamwork and coordination with strangers and you get punished with a 30s respawn timer won't be popular>melee aim "assist" still in game>matches are still stomps or being stomped>fog variations still exist just so you disconnectMan, I just don't understand how this game lost 80% of its playerbase!
>>1268622Pretty much this desu>>devs still trying to push for a comp sceneIt's the only thing that would ever shoot them into relevancy, the game has too much of a competitive and restricted meta to be fun for casual to to add with the fact that>Basically all casual modes suck and they even replaced the unranked tournament with cashout>>map events still have no impact on matcheshalf of the events do nothing and the only one that does is low grav because it makes jump pads unusable unless you want to be the enemy clay pigeon with no chance to retaliate. I'm just glad Dead Go Boom was removedyou also forget that most map variants are ass and that the current map roster is pretty garbage
>>1268781Different genres, but No Mans Sky and Fallout 76 kind of prove this wrong. Both games lost a majority of its playerbase, but seemed to have steadily brought them back.>most map variants are assOh yeah. I think the only unique ones are sandy Vegas and the Seoul one that adds the construction area in the center of the map.
>>1268622Smoke + Evasive Dash + Sword is really good and fun. You should experiment more often before you start saying things are useless or bad.
>>1269270in ranked?
>>1269253>Different genres, but No Mans Sky and Fallout 76 kind of prove this wrong. Both games lost a majority of its playerbase, but seemed to have steadily brought them back.Not even in the same universe, let alone genre. Those games failed to deliver at launch with their deceptive marketing and half baked... everything. Fallout 76 is "back" only because of the recent Fallout show and NMS is simply buyer's remorse and the fact that it took them like 4 years to implement what they announced would be at launch. They're also both novel concepts in a market that was/is lacking entries (coop/solo exploration RPGs) while The Finals is competing against a VERY oversaturated market. Couple that with it's nonexistent marketing and a falloff of players during S1 due to the lack of gamemodes, very poor balancing and no new content for months.Also, your cases apply to NONE of my points, so I don't even know why would you pull those 2 games out of your ass for discussion's sake, given that The Finals and those 2 other games are VASTLY different games with vastly different problems that plauge them.
>>1269294Yeah, although I keep a different gun and nade in reserve for Monaco. The outside cashboxes on there can really hurt the strat, even more than the ones on Horizon.
>>1269270>get shot once in smoke>healthbar UI element now follows me and completely negating smokeSmoke is only good when fighting against genuine idiots. It's too small, it's extremely easy to find people in smoke, and it does fuck all for everyone else on your team.>>1269295The entire point is that a game can come back from losing its players. It doesn't matter the type of game, it could be fucking super chess for all I care. It just seems like they're doing what most of these dying F2P games do, focusing on microtransactions instead of the actual game. Popular games like Path of Exile lost 70% of its entire playerbase from one update, and got it all back + more the next one.
>>1269428>get shot once in smoke>getting shot at all in the smokeSkill Issue>it does fuck all for everyone else on your team>he doesn't use sonar and shoutouts to mark enemies so his teammates can shoot fish in a barrelSkill Issue, Team Player Edition
>>1269432nta but smoke does still suckalso who the fuck uses sonar anymore since they removed it from medium
>>1268781>>>devs still trying to push for a comp scene>It's the only thing that would ever shoot them into relevancyI'm not expert on fpses but I know for a fact appealing to compfags ideas (ensure meta is airtight and remains the same forever by nerfing everything else) is what killed TF2.I'll be damned if I lose the only other multiplayer shooter I play casually.>>1269253sandy vegas is unique I find that really cool, and anyone who complains is a loser who can't adapt
>>1269920The balance is just fucked man, it has been since CB2 but now everything gets nerfed into the groundsandstorm vegas is cool visually, but annoying to play because it blocks off some of the areas plus it relies a lot more on open space traversal which means you're always open to getting attacked by everyone
>>1269920vegas' lack of cover on the street sort of hinders it, the (darude -) sandstorm variant isn't helping it either, but i don't really care about it because i would still get ass raped by any other class on any other map in the same way as i do on vegas.
https://youtu.be/-TRJ4mf-HLY?si=fpK4_l7jKmrX0yzPAttack Defend gamemode incoming
>>1270163it is kinda baffling that they use the ex-battlefield dev marketing and then don't ship a rush game mode
>>1270163I like how it's Vaiiya vs CNSit will probably have to do with those wierd 60's terminals they teased in the game cutscenes. Anyways, can't wait to see a MMMHH and MMHHH stack again, especially since it's attack/defend
>>1270163I predict barely any balance changes and the new gamemode will keep players interest for a week max.
>>1270808We'll get the stun gun nerf, lightoids will cry about it and another nerf to Heavy, I don't make the rules
>Destroy /vg/ general by being such a whiny faggot that no one wants to be around you>Destroy /vm/ general the same way
>>1271276>inb4 jennyI just think the game is loosing steam and playerwide interest really, not exactly a fault of the resident schizos
I already don't like the new gamemode.
>>1270163Ok so>5v5>NO HEALING>NO REVIVES>1 LIFE>it's literally defuse from CSGOwhat the fuck?What were they smoking??
>>1271304This is very likely Nexon pushing le search and destroy mode they put it in every shooter they publish.
>>1271306this doesn't fit The Finals at all, not to mention that it will only reinforce the Medium and Heavy meta. Turrets, APS, Demat, Goo, Barricades, Domes will be king as usual.Also, why the fuck are they calling it a "new" game mode when Search and Destory has been a staple of every game since like CS 1.6? What's exactly new about this? And why would anyone wanna play the paperweight that is light if a single gust of wind means you'll be out of the round for MINUTES and you won't contribute nothing??? Did they simply forget about this shit?? This game already has punishing respawn times and now you wanna add even more punishment to dying???? Can't wait for Terminal Attack to become a ranked gamemode too, ffs
>>1271308Funny story, Dirty Bomb made the exact same mistake with a dumb counter strike/search and destroy mode that no one liked.
Discord trannies deserve the fucking rope, the official discord is chockfull of total faggots holy shit
>>1271304New sitepage is up https://www.reachthefinals.com/terminal-attack>we want the CS2/R6S audience
>>1271328the site also completley glosses over Tournament mode, which should be the main game mode of the game but apparently not
tourney cucks can't stop sucking down fat Ls
>>1271352it's the best gamemode and it gets no love
>>1271300He's talking about the guy who calls people jenny
>>1271304Explain why this won't just be heavy tarpitting: the gamemodeBasically shields will be the only thing that can recover health.
>>1271411Here's how every match will be>DefenceHeavies will place down enough barricades to rival the great wall of china. If they brought Goo, they will close down every door and window, otherwise they'll spam mesh and dome at the first sight of the enemyAll the mediums will place enough APS turrets to block any incoming granade and will place turrets everywhereLights are non existant since there's no reason to play a total deadweight that dies in the first 2 seconds of a firefight>attackMediums will go for demat and nadespam, while heavies will push with charge and domeslight MAY have some use with glitch nades, but APS will invalidate all their effortsthis is IF they even allow you to select your loadout which they probably won't, they'll have presets to avoid this (especially since healbeams and defibs are not usable)I legit don't understand who thought this game mode was a good idea, it's baffling.
>>1271411>>1271425I'm pretty sure it's just going to be who's best at coordinating their heavies to RPG the enemy together. You may use something like a jump pad or a gateway to get the drop on them and then hit as many as you can with 2-3 RPGs, take out a couple of enemies, GG.
>>1271465They probably will have restrictions for gadgets/specs, maybe not for weapons though. Either way, a "tactical" gamemode in a game like this is just plain retarded
>>1271470Does "no healing" also imply no passive regen? If so, then time for lights to spend the whole match taking extremely distant potshots with the sniper/LH1 before disappearing.
>>1271479They're avoiding the question on the discord, so it's uknown. If they go full R6S, the damage will be permanent
>the one time they announce something ahead of time mid-season>it's something pretty much nobody was wantingGreat, now they're gonna clam up even further, all because they found a way to make a race war unfun.
>We want the CS2 audience
>>1271691would you stop with the drama? we're in the middle of gathering hype for the new CS2
>one of the main mechanics is that you can revive teammates>what if we... removed it?I don't think these devs realize they're at the downward spiral where the current audience realistically only cares about actual gameplay changes. Nobody I know of who plays this game actually recommends it to anyone, they only play it because they like a hyper specific loadout or gun.>friend loves using riot shield>even spent money to get cardboard skin>simultaneously tells everyone not to play when asked if the games fun
>>1271743Not only just revive, but literally grab their statue and chuck it somewhere safe for revivesMan, I like the game, but it's hard to recommend to people without puting a planet sized asterisk near it. I like using the AK because I got the diamond skin for it.
>>1271743He sounds like a fag
>>1272056delusional retard.
I am still enjoying The Finals. Hope it can stay afloat
>>1272130no chance. this new snd mode is the most tone deaf mode they could've added. Just even adding this mode proves they don't know what they're doing. Screenshot this post: People will try it and then it will be the least played mode of all within a week (two weeks at most). People will absolutely leave matches in the first or second round as well. This is gonna be a major failure and it will cause a lot of anger because this mode will very much highlight the cheating issue more than any other mode and will also highlight the hit registration issues this game suffers with.
just got an ad for the new gamemode on youtubewhy are they hyping this shit as if it's something to get excited aboutis this their new attempt at regaining popularity?
>>1271328>csgo but it's beholden to one of the least fun metas known to mankindgrim
>>1272251This game already requires a lot of coordination, how is that gonna be a thing with randos in a 5v5 with no text chat and an opt-in VC that either nobody uses or is filled with consoligger mouthbreathers that don't know how to turn off their mic. Add that to the plenty of bullshit damage sources and no healing, and I can see this being a very unpopular game mode. But dickriders will dick ride it, they're already claiming that "it's just to diversify dude, stop yapping, stop being so toxic" or my favourite "this will bring in R6S players" really?? Are you fucking retarded?
Giving medium demat was a mistake, said this on day oneIt's the strongest destruction tool in the game on the no destruction class
>>1272269It's opt out now.
>>1272543All the more reason to have hotmicing retards that don't realize their mic is on. Nobody ever uses VC to relay team info, atleast not on EU servers. Everyone mostly just uses pings anyways
didn't tribes 3 die because they focused on 5v5 and nobody liked that'
>>1272557I'd say it's because surfing is the main gimmick of the game but they neutered the speed.Do you think 5v5 is fun in the finals, there's nothing magical about the number 5 that makes it bad.
>>12725855v5 is fine in The Finals in game modes that require little coordination and fast respawns (even Power shift requires atleast 2 teammates pulling their weight and actually placing barricades and APS turrets). Immagine the same thing but in a game mode where it's one life and you get to instead watch the match happen while you can't do anything. Suddenly, it's not so fun.Plus it simply does not fit the tone of the game, period.I simply think that copying other games with a game mode that's been around since Counter Strike isn't exactly what I want out of this game.
Wish my machine could run The Finals without bursting into flame so I can goon to it (dress my female characters in faceless goon outfits)
geee i hope the new game mode doesn't attract the cheaters that have been decimating CS2 recently
>>1272659Isn't that a 20 dollar skinpack mate
>>1272778From what little I played it seemed like you could slowly grind up to getting it, but it's not like my shit rig can play it at all for me to really care right now.
>>1272787You could, but it'd take multiple seasons to get that many coins for free
>>1272787Not in one season
I'm bored with SYS$HORIZON already
>>1273313yeah, it's just not very interesting to look at. having different sections of the map be a different colour entirely helps, but it's still barebones-as-a-feature
Turrets are going to be complete cancer in the new mode if you can't even regen health.
>Power shift>If people are using APS turrets, it's not fun>If people aren't using APS turrets, it's really fun.
>>1273504>Power Shift>if you have APS and barricades, you win>if you don't have APS and barricades, you loosemaybe if those fucking sniper lights would be of any use and snipe the APS turrets from afar..
>>1273313Doesn't have unique variants and it's not fun to fight in. Plus the destruction really sucks
>play heavy>jump out 3rd story window>rocket a light>he beams me through the entire thing with the starter uzi and kills me with all headshots>His name is literally "LIGHT-100MMR"Oh boy. Hackers in my first fucking match.
>>1273821You are retarded
>>1273821You are a high-end on the bell curve
>>1274414retard thinks the destruction is different compared to other maps. No he definitely is not.
>>1274421Not them, but yeah, destruction does suck on Horizon. You're just projecting your own tardtastic qualities onto other people, because when someone says "destruction sucks on this map," the only way your 2D brain can process that is "oh they must think destruction as a mechanic by itself works different and is worse."
>>1272659what machine do you have that can't run finalsI got Finals running a busted up Lenovo Yoga i was using for college so I wouldnt keep missing events. The resolution was lowered to the point where anything 20ft away was pixels and the game stuttered hard at the start of matches, but it ran pretty damn smooth afterwards even with buildings exploding and all
>>1273821lack of rubble was a real boner killer.
Is the new game mode out yet? It's supposed to launch today
It's live
>>1274557Patchnoteshttps://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/260
>>1274560>Up to 100 HP regen>NO GADGET REGENwhat the fuck
>>1274447The destruction is the exact same retard.
>>1274560Those patch notes are pretty great. Literally every time I have an issue with something they seem to address it. I've never played a game like that.
>>1274564But the places to destroy aren't intresting or fun to destroy. Plus the rubble automatically despawns
>>1274566Rubble automatically despawns on every map.
>>1274567on horizon, it's almost instant though
>another throwing knife reskin>for 8 buckswhy
>>1274570>Throwing knife has the coolest skins>Sucks to usemany such cases.
I can already tell that this gamemode is too complicated for this retarded playbase to understand.
>>1274579go back to r6s
>>1274580>call you retarded>you respond with something retarded
>>1274564No it's this >>1274566 Horizon's design leaves it worse off for destruction, both in its general layout and in smaller things, like what counts as a single surface/object to be destroyed. The cubes in the sand garden are extremely divisive due to that last bit.
>wow, a bundle which i can buy multiple parts of without having to buy the whole thing?>is actually just an amalgamation of regular cosmetics thrown into a bundle to make it seem like it's an actual bundle>past bundles are not broken apart like this (devs are too retarded and wouldn't think people would buy cosmetics separately)ANYWAYS>lol defuse from cs>play 2x7x3 rounds for shit cosmetics>ontop of that, play 4 additional matches>win once on both teams>lol get shitty retextures as per usual
It's actually fun.
>>1274602Most cosmetic bundles are just reskins anyways, so this tracks.I'm getting the exclusive cosmetics and then I'm never touching terminal attack ever again
lmao
>>1274610Well, it's only available for 20 days.
>>1274612I'm playing this game specifically for the high ttk.
Finally, they fucking fixed the ping and revive icon scaletook em long enough
WTF why is my team actually competent in Terminal Attack?
It's so weird for them to be so adamant about not doing gamemodes that other games are doing, only for them to directly copy counter strike. It's actually fun though.
>>1274579I don't play f2p shooters for yet another terrible iteration of search and destroy.
>>1274560>glitch now goes through shieldsI thought it was neat that shields could still protect you from being glitched, but alright. Guess that's another APS buff.>barricades are largerstrange choice to make, they felt fine.>SCAR damage nerfedfucking finally, they actually noticed that the gun was all powerful
>>1274606>>1274660These are the same anon
It's allright but explain to me why heavy isn't the best class for this game mode? Stomping lights is a cakewalk
The barricades are now ridiculously large. I don't think you can peek out of them anymore, even if you're a heavy. They look so goofy though.
>>1274686
>>1274692got you now
They should shuffle the ranked game mode every season. Cashout in one season and maybe Power Shift in the next.
>>1274695WTF NOOOOOOOOOOOOO>>1274697Are you insane?
>>1274697No, absolutley not, i'd stop playing after that
>The game mode is all about stacking heavies and mediums, againWOW, WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS ONE COMING!
I usually suck with light but since the enemy team had a melee heavy and an useless med, it wasn't so bad
The encription key got stuck and we couldn't pick it up again lol
btw have you guys seen the new battle pass rewards post the CNS fag?>5 vaiiya cosmetics>5 ospuze cosmetics
Monaco is the worst map for this game mode, too open and it always boils down to rooftop firefights that whittle down a considerable ammount of health before even managing to reach the terminal. Not to mention fighting in the very small houses.
>>1274794>Weapon reskins but white for vaiiya and orange for ospuze>yet another M11 skin (this time a reskin of the halloween one with no smoke effect) despite the battlepass already giving you an unique M11 skinI like the tacky gold jacket but that's it
How shit is the new Fcar?
>>1274688Sniper is insanely good in this mode.
>>1274829It's fine.
>>1274832I've noticed, it's all due to the fact that you can't heal, so every bit of damage matters. Kinda bullshit that a spec 200 meters away from me can reduce my health to half and I just have to deal with it.anyways, I got my cosmetics, so I doubt I'll go back often to this game mode
>>1274683Honestly maybe its because the barricades are silly when used as intended inside the Power Shift mobile, you had to lip the rim with the shield to stop getting headshot before.
>Last match of 5v5 elimination>I get tagged by an RPG and then a round or two while escaping after getting a few kills>last guy alive is a cloak light>skittishly walks back and forth in place for 30 seconds before fucking mantling up to the next floor and getting firing lined by the heavy and turret upstairsgod i hate that casuals are convinced cloak is fucking good
>>1274923this gamemode favours ratty light behaviour i've noticed. When you can't heal, death by a thousand cuts is always viable.
Zamn the stun gun nerf is HUGE frI feel bad for those who main it
>>1274959I don't.
What's the point of this new game mode? To snatch some CS/Valorant players?
>>1274976Free items or something.
>>1274976They want to seem hip with the comp crowdThat and the recent changes to comp + the devblog abour the ranking system. They may put terminal attack as a permanent mode, doesn't make sense to market it as a limited time mode and then parade it on their official site, with a dedicated sitepage. They may even decide to make it a ranked mode once they do which would suck ass.
>>1274979I hope it's permanent. It's really fun.
>>1274980It's borderline ok, but it really strips the game of any character. Plus some maps play kinda bad on it.
I don't know... Seems like Nexon forced the devs to add this...
>>1274986That's the takeaway I'm getting too, it's just too out of character for the game
>>1274983Seethe
>>1274989Hope nexxon pays well
It seems off to me for some reason... Maybe CNS is an allegory for Nexon? CNS' additions seems really off...
Reducing tournament rounds by 1 was a good move because it was ridiculous to count on always being able to have 48 people queuing.
>>1275012They need to bring back unranked tournament after reducing ranked's rounds by 1 though
>>1275020Gotta be careful with too many queues. IMO they should cut down on queueable modes and relegate them to custom matches only, then give us a custom lobby browser. That way you can keep niche modes like bank it available if people want to play it but avoid queue splitting too much.
There's even no Events in this game modeFuck Nexon!
The 5v5 attack defend doesn't work in this game because the maps aren't designed for it at all. Really stupid of the devs to think the maps are "one size fits all" for some reason.
>>1275023>custom lobby browserWoah buddy that almost sounds like a good idea, can't have that. You'll get matchmaking EOMM hell and you'll enjoy it
>>1274959Pretty much the primary reason you used it was to deny defibs and rocket usage on heavies. being able to deny caps is still good but it seems way worse now- like, Light would often lose gunfights after opening with stun even without ADS, so this is pretty bad.Light has a ton of good equipment options Now. Sonar nade, teleporter, frags, goo, glitch, breaching charge- stun gun might be a little too situational now.
>>1275057I think kinda the whole point of the game is to be an experimental sandbox they can try a bunch of different shit with. That's why their update schedule is so constant.
So how does the new mode actually work?t. not home from work yet
>>1275180>Split your team in 2 groups that divide for 2 terminals>the terminal that you're not defending always gets attacked>pack up your deployables (since they don't recharge) and haul ass over there before you loose>enemy sniper dinks you for 150 hp that you can't heal>get there and blast a few fools with your rpg>defuse the terminal and winas usual, stack heavies and mediums and your chances to win increaseI hate how destruction is penalized here. You'll wanna avoid wasting your gadgets to open up site sightlines so either you go around looking for a red canister (not always closeby) or you just have to deal with it. Some maps work better than others, Horizion works suprisingly well in this mode, while monaco might be the worst.
>>1275193Does that mean that deathballing might be better than splitting up to defend?
>>1275194Deathballing is just the better option in every gamemode in The Finals. Splitting up and staying alone always gets you picked off and remember, No Revives. You'll almost always have to play on the retake since "planting the bomb" is relativley easy and risk free since they don't even have to get physically close to the terminal.This game mode makes you a lot more concious of your gadgets since they're single use. Effectivley, your only regenerating item is your spec, so keep that in mind.
I honestly wonder what this game would look like if they didn't instapatch everything the second people don't like it.Don't get me wrong, I hated a lot of the formerly strong stuff, but in a game about providing an adaptive sandbox that wants you to be creative it would've been interesting to see if people would adapt to shit like nukes
>>1275199I mean, the adaptation was to have APS up all the time wherever you areI feel like a better move would have been to make the beeping louder and to have barrels explode faster when you shoot them, but eh.
>>1275199Nukes had no counterplay, that was the problem.How do you adapt to a massive source of damage that has no way to countered in the first place>inb4 APSNot always reliable, not to mention that you could never expect where the nuke came from. It was hilarious though, I really miss double C4 on cashout
>>1275199I had adapted to nukes by playing other games at the time because that shit was really getting on my nerves. They shouldn't have nerfed C4 so much though, killing nukes alone was enough.
>>1275202I still often miss planted explosives on carriables just for destruction. Throwing a carriable on its own at something to blow it up isn't as reliable and never was. Not to mention Double C4 to blow up approaches you don't like. I think Heavy really ought to get something that works like that even if it does pitiful damage, bring back demolition
>>1275205You kinda need to do the double throw thing to get the carriable destruction right but sometimes the canister just goes wherever it fucking wants.Double C4 was so funny though, i'd be on the VC with friends and they'd scream "They're capping!" and I'd go "No they're not" and get 2 kills from it. Good times..
>>1275203They were a lot, but I dunno, in games like Street Fighter or Dota that also have a lot of shit going on in them it can sometimes take months or years before people realize strong counters to common situations.
>>1275208Nukes weren't just strong, they were an instant kill in a game that has a fairly high TTK. Your shitty gun fires 3-4 shots that barely even tickle the heavy in the time it takes him to turn around, lob the barrel at you and detonate it mid air.>APSHas such a ridiculously tiny radius that you could literally aim the barrel outside, detonate and still easily kill anyone next to the APS. A lot of people don't realize how fuckhuge explosive AOE is in this game, for instance the CL-40 can easily destroy an APS with just 2 shots outside of the radius.
>>1275211To add, for the longest time (before they patched it out) C4 explosive damage stacked per charge. That meant that nukes did a ridiculous ammount of damage near instantly
>>1274979Probably will drop quick cash for terminal attack, if its successful. doing the random quick cash daily quest is seeing longer queue times vs powershift and cashout. >>1275012for queuing it is a good change. If they had mixed up the teams across brackets each round i think the 48 players wouldve made more sense and it'd force more match diversity. As it was, 4 rounds vs a team with a cheater was rough. And I'm sure the other bracket had a cheater too, but thats why randomizing and mixing it up wouldve been a useful element, sometimes the cheaters match vs each other and eliminate one another. The static bracket concept would only work if they added actual leagues that lasted the entire season with teams who had to register and play together.
This mode doesn't fit this game, everyone dies way too fast, sometimes the match ends before even inserting the key in the box, who the fuck says that this game has longer TTK?
>>1275211I usually carried the APS around on a potted plant or something specifically ready for the bomb to throw it and intercept it mid-flight, which was effective, but the issue was that the APS would break anything you planted it on if you set it down once. getting the drop on them and shooting the nuke was also an instant kill on them and potentially their squad, which was nice. It did definitely contort the rest of the game to exist around it.
>>1275218>who the fuck says that this game has longer TTK?Anyone who has player other FPS? In Counter Strike people die if you sneeze at them.
>>1275218It's more about the fact that there are plenty of ways to deliver a lot of damage in a short span of time. The TTK is still higher than most FPS though
>>1275221It doesnt feel that different on this game to be honest, barely noticeable
>>1275220See that's the problem, it's like you're playing fucking Dungeons & Dragons and having to cast pre-buffs before combat just in case you run into a heavy with a nuke. Shooting their nuke was nice, except extremely hard to pull off consistently unless you had a CL-40 or a perfect line of sight.Now throwing a barrel at someone and detonating it in their face could be a fine mechanic if C4 did 0 damage in that scenario, because then it would be functionally a gadget that can be a makeshift grenade if you can find a barrel.
>>1275225OK but have you tried actually measuring instead of going by feels? Unloading an AK on a medium's chest takes 1.2 seconds to kill them. In CS it takes 0.3 seconds for the AK to kill someone with chest shots. Literally 1/4 of the time.
>>1275227I don't mind doing a little thinking ahead and pre-planning, myself.I definitely think we should get gadgets back that offer destruction and airburst canisters back in exchange for lower damage on the charges themselves so point blank nukes aren't feasible, in any case
I miss when RPGs oneshot lights
it's games like these that remind me that silent skill/engagement matchmaking has been disastrous for online videogame discourse.people can't understand each other because blatantly obvious things in higher skill lobbies don't appear in lower skill ones. And vice versa. People arguing about balancing problems yell past each other because they've physically never seen it themselves.a week after launch i played with people from /v/ in quick cash and they were dragged up to my MMR - for reference I grinded out to diamond twice in the closed betas. They had zero kills, were yelling over voip how everyone was cheating, and ended up never playing Finals ever again.
>>1275237>i played with people from /v/>They had zero kills, were yelling over voip how everyone was cheatingThat's just a given.
>>1275237show diamond hammer and M11 or gay and fake
>>1275239there wasn't any matchmaking back then so you got it for playing 12 hours in three days
>>1275243Yeah, ranking was also much easier too, managed to snag the diamond AK from Open beta. I don't play enough consecutevly to grind out for S1. I may try to get S2 diamond but it's a longshot
>you can't peek over barricades anymorewhat's the fucking point then
>>1275327>not using goo as a step stoolGooners can't stop winning. Best specialization in the game.
>>1275327barricading things, it's an indestructible wallyou can also just use a single goo ball as a stool like >>1275331 said
>>1274476It's not that it can't run it, but with my shitty internet, it takes longer than I'd like to have things run smoothly even on the lowest settings, not to mention my computer's internals are starting to beep for help so I'd rather not test its limits at this point
Man you fags are so whiny.
>>1275351>2020 + 4>8gb>1050Anon I...
>>1275237>implying there was a ranked sbmm. yeah, no. there is no sbmm in this. I hit diamond for S1 with friends and we still ran into full bronze/silver teams.Also, the cheating is rampant, the devs literally admitted it today in their update post.
>>1275501what does "sbmm" mean, anon?
Impressions after playing the event:-Lights matter more due to no revives and hit and run tactics; I see more LLMMH than LMMHH teams as a result-Heavy has more presence and is both more fun to fight and to fight as than usual, mainly due to the health mechanics-2 Terminals and the map size means that Defenders are often really the Attackers, but I kinda dig it-APS is more cancer here than in Power Shift-It's overall kinda fun, but brought down by the downtime between rounds. If they smoothed things out and brought it back in Season 3 with the proper system changes to make it work, I'd play it occasionally as a casual side mode.That being said, I think this is more of a test to see if people would enjoy 5v5 Quick Cash, which is something people have been asking for a while, and this format gives them a large number of small-scale tests without spoiling the idea of 5v5 Quick Cash, because if it sucked now then people would forever associate that.
>light hesitates on stealing the enemy team's cash out while we have one in our hands>get horribly split up and raped from rear to head>of course he steps on a mine and dies>another vault in our hands but these 2 fuckwads just wander off on their own without any care in the world>get flanked all by myself and lose the vault yet again>last cashbox in my hand>unsuspecting retard from the enemy team all by himself who just set up a guardian turret expecting to snatch the last vault>be lucky enough that the rest of the teams are fighting over 1 (one) cash out>still end up on second placeThis game needs text chat so i can call these people words... oh wait no we need more communicative features instead of just mouthbreather ESL simulator and "what the fuck is the middle mouse button?"
could you retards stop stacking light
>>1275778I'm sorry... Sword dash is just so addicting.
>>1275778whenever i play non-light i hate my life. I need control over my engagements
man I hate that almost every round on defence you have to play on the retake. That and how most rounds are a 4-0 steamroll or a total stomp, hardly ever had a "close" match that went on for more than 5 rounds total
>only 1k views on twitchdead fackin game... what went wrong?
>load up some power shift>the sweatiest fucking liggers, clan tag and everything on the opposite teamcmon man, I just wanna play some payload
>>1276158It never had a twitch viewerbase. Pair that with the fact that ranked is too complex for the average streamer (plus you needed 60 matches to access it). The game also didn't have any marketing
>>1276209It's the only gamemode where they're marignally useful, so they tend to gravite towards it
>>1275595*yawn*
Yeah nah fuck SYS$HORIZON unfinished shit cunt
Embark:>we admit there is a major issue with cheatersAlso Embark:>here is a new mode that rewards cheaters cheating more than any other modeThe best thing about this game is that you can outplay cheaters in every other mode with good teamwork and strategy.The problem with this mode is 1 life, no healing, limited equipment all rewards aim botting, no-recoil scripts, wallhacks, etc It hyper focuses the narrow skill set of left clicking heads, and diminishes every other skill set.I will finish the quests and never touch this trash again. I'll play CS2 or Valorant if I want a game mode like this.
>>1276723there's not a single cheater in your little casual meme seasonal modes
>game all about destruction and demolition>gamemode that punishes you for demolishing shit because of the no item regen great idea
>>1276775building damage lasts between rounds.
>>1276796But the sites rotate and no game lasts longer than 4-5 rounds, so it really doesn't matter
>>1275236I miss when double barrel two shot heaviesI miss when sledge didn't feel like absoluteshit to use because RPG picked up its slack>>1276775You could bring the KSnot hammer though lol
>>1277001too bad the KS isn't that goodit does break barricades rather quickly though, I'll give it that
>>1276728you're boring
>>1268622> devs still don't realize that any game that requires teamwork and coordination with strangers and you get punished with a 30s respawn timer won't be popularThis is its main killer, I wonder how much of that mentality was carried over from old Dice. "They'll surely play this, we're great devs with great ideas"
>>1269295He wanted to invoke fo76 because he's a bethestard todd cocksucker shill. >>1269253Stupid negro
>>1277296They expected their name to carry them. It worked though, too bad they never figured out how to balance the fucking game
>>1271328They should've made a competitor to battlefield, now they're unconfidently chasing scraps.
>>1277311A competitor to battlefield would probably be very welcome now since every BF clone shot itself in the foot>BF2042 is ending support>Battlebit fucked itself over>Phantom Forces is on Robloxhowever since they are Nexxon backed, it's very likley that they told them they wanted a competitive game to cash in on that easy e-sport bait money and sweet sweet fomo MTX. The new S&D mode is proof of that.
>>1277311I like this game more than I probably would've liked not-battlefield
>>1276800That's hardly punishment
>>1277111He's right though. Cheating is rampant in ranked but extremely rare in casual modes.
>>1277311Battlefield is slop. Made for vehicle mains and retards with stockholm syndrome.
>>1277728>He's right thoughyou're still boring even when you samefag
>Ree new game modes are bad becase I don't want it because it resembles something from another game reemore is better, especially if its not splitting the base
>>1277833>more is betterfor 2 days so you can get the challenge cosmetics, then its another shitty game mode you won't play instead of normal cashout.
>>1277869Not really. I mixed in a lot of Solo Bank It in with Quick Cash, and I find this to be a good way to swap up the pace from doing Power Shift and Cashout, although I am somewhat cheesed that they bumped up the pass with this lower rate of XP but then run an event that doesn't really do well to complete challenges. Normally I'd be on the side of more is splitting the playerbase, but like he said >>1277833 it's not really, as it is ultimately only going to be time limited.
>>1277833>>1277942dude, its all you. stop samefagging>inb4as if we don't all know how to hide (You) in screensThis thread is dead. You killed it.
>>1277958Nta but shut up retard.
>>1277833Like any other LTM, i get my cosmetics and then gtfo
Liggers should get the fucking rope
>30s timer respawn bad>cba to work with strangersSettle down codbabies, do we have to bring out the steamcharts again to compare to fucking DOTA and LoL?
Fcar nerf didn't really take it out of the meta, but it made the 1887 also feel more viable now.
>>1278460It still hasn't brought the FAMAS into viable territory either kek
When are they adding input based matchmaking, I'm tired of spectating my teammates that are using a controller. Or they're braindead. Usually both
>>1278133>going negative as the most overpowered class in the game>when there are two lights on the other teambro just shoot them. They have 150hp, they die in half a second from all your weapons. Your RPG does 140 already. You just shoot them, it's that easy. Why aren't you shooting them?
>>1278607>anime poster>is a retardwho could have seen this coming
>>1277326>Battlebit fucked itself overThat faggot dev had everything handed to him and he STILL fucked it up. Literally every problem stemmed from him not being able to work with anybody, it has to be autism.>Phantom ForcesI would be having more fun at this point, but last I played was probably ~2018 so I'm going to assume they fucked that up as well.I don't understand why it's so difficult for people to make a competent FPS nowadays. You would think it would be the easiest thing to create since decades of these games exist. I don't notice this in other game genres, but maybe I'm just lucky with my choice of games.
>>1277963Keep samefagging, you just prove my point.
>>1278133Wow you suck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRc5TYAvmE
>>1278913Zoomers can even begin to understandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r401m46xPPs
>>1278913I Like the new tracks but they lack their usual leitmotivonly one that sorta does is this one https://youtu.be/WVojM1hCqLY?list=PLuCll_x5r_7cLhm9bBCbW53bgh5fBhNb-
>>1277326You tard just play UT2K4 Onslaught
They removed nukes, nerfed Lewis, C4, RPG, SA1216, mesh and dome shields, and heavy is still the strongest class in the game lol.
>>1278133those objective scores say a lot
>>1279407>Open Beta and Release>RPG 1 shot light and had ridiculous splash area>Mesh had 1125 HP>Dome had 600 HP>SA did 8 DPS per pellet>Flamethrower melted people>Lewis was a laser>Double stack on C4, plus everyone always fell for C4 on cashout and you'd get easy as fuck kills>nukesMan that brings me back. C4 and RPG nerfs are the ones that saddened me, I could get behind the rest.
>>1279407*FCARs you from the next ZIP code*
>>1279643Lewis can easily take on the nerfed Fcar, also mesh and barricade stop it entirely.
>>1279655The new lewis recoil is kinda bad at long ranges. It's ok at medium ranges though
>>1279671True but the massive ammo and HP combined with the low DPS on the Fcar make it fairly capable of fighting back until the range is so damn long that it doesn't matter anyway because you can just get behind cover.
>>1279674>get behind coverLaughs in SYS$HORIZON
>he hasn't upgraded his CPU for this game yetWhat are you waiting for?
>>1279816Money
>>1279816My performance is good in this game though, it has always run well.
>>1279407I'm wondering if the entire concept of the class is simply flawed and impossible to balance.From a lot of the breakpoints and stuff i get the impression that embark thought light would be the impossible to balance class.
>>1280104The problem is tank abilities. Tanks and healing are incredibly strong in every FPS game- it's why defib has gotten gutted in every patch, and I'm thinking it's why a lot of the LTMs have conspicuously not had defib or healing in them. Tanks in hero shooters offset their ability to tank by fucking sucking in almost every other way. Heavies are not like that, which is good, because hero shooter tanks suck ass to play. The issue is that Heavy still has strengths on top of shields
>>1279816The game ran fine even before I upgraded from an old quad core CPU.
>Nerf fcar>There's now absolutely nothing that can reign heavy in, even from long range
>>1280188There's also a bug with the glitch grenade sometimes not disabling shields.
>>1280156Teams with 2x mesh shield 2x dome are absolute cancer to fight, they just rotate the shields over and over and you never get to actually kill them.
>>1280188>acting like the fcar nerf changed anything
>>1280229Double heavy has been dominant for ages, but now it feels genuinely unbeatable.
>>1277311I'd be down for a not-battlefield with the strain system in place. It would have to be a whole separate game though, I dont think the current playerbase cares for it
>>1280206Dome Shield has, is, and will forever be little more than a way to briefly discourage singular long-range attackers unless they up the HP to 500. Mesh Shield is kinda just whatever. It works better for quickly covering your teammates, but it's in the same camp as the Healing Beam, where if you're in an engagement that lasts longer than a couple seconds, then continuing to use it instead of firing back quickly turns you into a liability.
>>1280188everyone still uses it or the AKMthe other weapons might as well not even exist
>>1280373false. 1887 is the best pick.But none of it can contest heavy. Medium is now a pure support.
>>1280377Wish my soloq teammates would get the memo and go MHH but alas, no.1887 is like playing the lottery. Either it one shots a dude from 50 meters in hipfire or it does a whopping 4 DMG point blank. That and the reload is awful
>>1280313>Dome Shield has, is, and will forever be little more than a way to briefly discourage singular long-range attackers unless they up the HP to 500Not at all, dome works best when used aggressively. You throw the shield at someone and push them, and now you have a 300hp barrier to dance around while you get to shoot them for free. It's almost always a free kill.
>>1280465Need to relearn how to use dome aggressivley, I'm too defensive with it. Funniest strategy for me was tossing them a bubble and then watch as they tried to hit us from inside it
I'm glad it's over
>>1280490Congrats, soloq or premade?
>>1280491soloq medium.It's definitely much faster after the patch. I got from plat 2 to d4 in a single day.
>>1280501Yeah, it felt like that for me too. Finally reached plat 4 yesterday, now I'm trying to climb to Dia 4, but it's really a tossup if you soloq. Might go back to lurking LFGs but they're all full of fags and I can't be bothered
nerf/kill double shield heavybuff C4 and RPGbuff light DB
>>1280838nerf cloak
>>1280838RPG does not need a buff in any way.
>>1280858parts of the game were balanced around RPG one-shotting lights. I miss Sledge being vaguely fun to play I don't care if people wandering around as a deathball get owned by an RPG guy randomly walking around a corner, if anything they should make footstep audio decent so that a Heavy randomly walking around a corner isn't such a huge problem
>>1280934One-shots are a bad mechanic to begin with and the damn thing is already stupid as it is.>rocket 1 guy>loses 140hp and gets confused as he drops a floor, easily finish him off>throw dome at another guy, shoot him while he has to deal with a 300hp shield>charge the last guy>didn't even use the 3rd gadget yet>all while having 350hp and all the ammo you could needI've been playing a lot of heavy lately and it's just stupid, I'm almost never hesitant about engaging anyone.
>>1280951I really don't care about situational one-shots. Kill Heavy's shields so he doesn't automatically win when he gets in. improve audio so it's not as easy for heavy to ambush you.
>>1280951>team is travelling as a pack because we aren't retarded>heavy rounds the corner>instinctively put up shield>his reaction-rpg does nothing>gets ripped to shredsby return fireIt is literally, unequivocably, 100% that simple.
instaRPGcels when they see my potted plant with an APS on it
>>1280934Like what? RPGs haven't 1 shot lights for a long time and they're still not exactly getting out of control.
>>1280951Evenly matched teams will often skirmish until they either down a player or get them on low health, then they collapse them with all 3 guys.RPG does the job for basically freeOh I got splashed by one of two basically hitscan rpgs, probably separated from my team, now I mathematically can't win any head to head fight and will probably die instantly.
What does TAA low/med/high change? Less visual artifacting, """""""better"""""" blurryness? >pic rel
>>1280951>>1281439samefag seething
LIGHT CLASS: SPECIALIZATIONS:>Evasive Dash: good as is.Grappling Hook: buff by adding charges, or greatly reducing cooldownCloaking Device: remove from game and replace with something else-reasoning: cloak rarely works well and is difficult to balance. Veteran players almost never fall for it, while newbies get destroyed by it. WEAPONS: Dagger: revert backstab changesSword: fix the emote exploit by making emotes unable to be cancelled (emotes are a flex, the entire point is you cant cancel them early). SH1900: clearly weak after season 1 nerf; don’t use myself so idk how to fix. Throwing Knives: they’re bad, but let them stay bad, they can be a special kind of flex for good players. -reasoning: lights already have the most weapon options, keep one weapon as a “skill flex”>92R, V95, M11, XP-54, LH1, SR-84: good as isGADGETS: >Frag, Flash, Pyro, Gas, Goo, Smoke: good as is>Sonar: good as is>Gateway: good as isBreach: buff to 2 chargesGlitch: GREATLY reduce bounce so it sticks where you throw it, and buff it so that if you destroy a glitched mine, the mine doesn’t go off (currently they do). Stun Gun: allow it to destroy mines without setting them offVanishing bomb: revert invis effect to original launch vanilla-reasoning: if they remove and replace the invis specialization, vanishing bomb has more value and can be buffed appropriatelyThermal Vision: make it toggled on/off with no cooldown; user can just turn on or off as needed-reasoning: thermal vision has advantages and disadvantages, so there is no reason it should go on cdTracking Dart: increase the magazine to 5 -reasoning: 5 is the size of an enemy team in a 5v5 mode1/3
>>1281610MEDIUM CLASS: SPECIALIZATIONS:>Healing Beam: good as is>Guardian Turret: good as isDematerializer: reduce cooldown>AKM, Famas: good as isFCAR: revert recoil pattern to launch-reasoning: the damage and range nerfs are more than enoughCL-40: increase magazine from 4 to 5Model 1887: FIX the reload bug when reloading a partial magazineR357: clearly weak after season 1 nerfs; don’t use myself so idk how to fix. Riot Shield: buff range on melee attackGADGETS: >Frag, Flash, Pyro, Gas, Goo: good as is (ADD smoke grenade)>Explosive, Gas, Glitch mines: good as is>Jump Pad: good as isZipline: buff to priority roof tops over walls-reasoning: from long distances it can be difficult to quickly align the zip line to a roof instead of a wall, let alone see it. >Data Reshaper: good as is>Defibrilator: good as isAPS turret: remove goo gun and throwing knives from it’s target list-reasoning: ridiculous it stops good and knives. Should only stop grenades. Motion Sensor (from heavy class): REWORK: reduce to 1 charge and 1 placed max, change to PLACEABLE equipment with HP (like turret or aps) and double the sensor AOE-reasoning: increasing the range sets it apart from sensor grenades, while making it placeable allows it to be destroyed by opponents but remains in place otherwise, allowing for more map awareness. -seriously consider moving to medium where it may see more use, as heavy kit is already heavily stacked. 2/3
>>1281611HEAVY CLASS: SPECIALIZATIONS: >Charge N Slam: good as is>Goo Gun: good as isMesh Shield: remove from game and replace with something elseWEAPONS: >M60, Sledge, Flamethrower: good as isLewis: revert the recoil pattern changes and nerf the dmg/range fall off. -reasoning: especially complex recoil patterns only further benefit vets over newbiesMGL32: reduce the bounce distance/physics (add weight on bounce)KLS-23: seems weak since launch, don’t use myself so idk how to fix. SA1216: clearly weak after season 1 nerfs; don’t use myself so idk how to fix. GADGETS:>Frag, Flash, Pyro, Gas, Goo: good as is (ADD smoke grenade)>Explosive, Pyro Mine: good as is>RPG: good as is>Dome Shield: good as is>Gravity Cube: good as isC4: revert all nerfs -reasoning: the nuke issue has been fixed through activation and physics nerfsBarricade: revert the exceptionally tone-deaf size buffMotion Sensor (see medium): REWORK: reduce to 1 charge and 1 placed max, change to PLACEABLE equipment with HP (like turret or aps) and double the sensor AOE-reasoning: increasing the range sets it apart from sensor grenades, while making it placeable allows it to be destroyed by opponents but remains in place otherwise, allowing for more map awareness. -seriously consider moving to medium where it may see more use, as heavy kit is already heavily stacked. 3/3
>>1281613post ignored due to it being dumb
>>1281617Same
Can't wait to see this ugly ass skin in every fucking lobby worn by tryhards now
The spawns this season are so fucking awful>spawn and rush to the first vault>2 other teams spawn near the vault and we get into a 3way slapgfight, wasting time and resources>meanwhile, on the other side of the fucking map>4th team is halfway through their cashoutor how about this>Both cashouts started>Cashout A is rumble city, everyone spawns there and it's a mess>all the while you sit at cashout B as nobody spawns and you play fetch the canister with your teammatesI love how they "fixed" the fact that everyone abused the team respawns to get a few free seconds of cashout, by simply fucking you over regardless of cashout progress and spawing you 200 meters away from the cashout.
>>1281664I hate the inane safe horny shit that permeates everything now.
>>1281669Devs are catering to the discord crowd, as any modern developer does. With discord only ARGs, leaks being presented on discord first and with developers having personalites with them streaming and shit. This shit ain't even remotley horny, especially if you put it on a bitchnosed asian goblina. Every fucking charcter model is ugly as fuck in this game and cosmetics just blur at a certain point.
>>1281670It's safe horny specifically because it's ugly.
>21 gig update for shit cosmetics im not buyingshould i just quit next season?
>>1281740finish the bp, wait for the weeklies to pile up, rush them in 2 days and then stop playing. rinse and repeat. As soon as I reach Diamond 4, i'm just gonna focus on finishing up the battlepass and then i'll gtfo and wait for S3
I love having to deal with the bullshit embark account thing, so i can't simply just press on a dude's name and click "goto steam profile" and add them through that, I really hate this fucking shit
>>1281664>2000s mallgoth over trad gothbaka
>>1281740please do
>teammate has healbeam>never fucking uses itstick to fucking casual games modes PLEASE
>>1281789I got these fuckwads in my team AGAIN and he STILL hasn't realized what his Q fucking does
>>1281789if he literally never used it then there is a glitch that stops the heal beam from workingI've gotten it a handful of timesyou pull out the gun, press the button and it just doesn't connect to anything
>>1281838No, motherfucker never even pulled it out, he'd only heal AFTER we'd finish fighting. They always also fucking split off and get picked alone. Man I don't care about your AK skin and the holo sticker, STICK WITH THE FUCKING TEAMHOW DID YOU 2 MONGRELS EVEN REACH PLAT 2
>>1281840>he'd only heal AFTER we'd finish fightingThat is the correct way of doing it, you want to be outputting DPS during the actual fight.
>>1281844Wrong, healbeam can out-heal most DPSPlayed with a team yesterday, MHH stack and I was one of the Heavies and he'd pull 10k heals per round by healing us during engagementspicrel was his best tournament with most healsWe ranked up twice from Plat 4 to Plat 2 in a single nightnever say bullshit like that again
>>1281859>>1281844I forgot the picture, fuck
>>1281859>healbeam can out-heal most DPSNo, it flatly cannot, as it heals 50 HP/sec, which is barely over a quarter of the bodyshot DPS of most guns people use.
>>1281874It's still more than enough to finish the encounter and save your skin, there are plenty of engagements that I would have flat out lost if it weren't for my medium's healbeam supporting me. You underestimate how many bullets you need to bring down a mid heal heavy, enough to divert your attention and leave you exposed, especially if your healer knows how to position himself to better support you
>The performative faggots on reddit were cooming themselves over this literal tranny looking shit.Why won't they just add 1 attractive face? Just one.
>>1281884Not DEI compliant, sorryIn the arena you can be ANYTHING you want! Except attractive!!For real through, I kept seeing the stupid "GOTH MOMMY UOHHH" meme everywhere and the actual skin isn't even remotley hot
>>1281887They still pretend it is though.
>>1281610>>1281611>>1281613tl;dr
>>1281887>the only bearable face is the crash test dummy
>>1281892>Lightremove cloak>meda bunch of bullshit "buffs">heavyanother set of retarded buffsthere
>>1281617>>1281623 >>1281899Samefag>>1281892Underage
>>1281994negro
>>1281994
post you're dude
>>1282033You're fit-conspirakitten: 1100 multibux-L.EDemon: 800 multibux-Hoodie: 200 multibux-City Lancer bundle: 2200 multibuxtotal spent 4300 multibuxwhich roughly equates to 30 to 40 bucksSpent on a free game
>>1282056I wish f2p games were banned from existence, just ask a normal upfront price for your game.
>>1282058If this game were priced to something like 10 to 15 bucks, it would have solved the cheating problems right at launch
>>1282056>Thirdie who mains heavy
>>1282033Oh yeah they reskinned the hoodie, looks MUCH nicer like that.>>1282056What a way to stain your Closed Beta shit. Don't you have Beta Chic? Or any other set for that matter?
>>1282061That's not going to fund weekly updates.
>>1282065btw they need to buff the female body type like real bad, heavy is just a hambeast on both sexes (reflects them perfectly)
The AMA says they plan to add text chat in season 3
>>1282064I main medium, but please, keep being a waste of oxygen>>1282065I own all Beta sets from CB2 upwards. Besides you bought both the city lancer pack and the vaiiya filter bundle AND the Cash Box QB packall for the embarassingly ammount of 6020 Multibux (including the S1 BP but not the sweater) so pipe the fuck down you little whale
>>1282080>That unbridled thirdie rage
>>1282080Spoiler i didn't even buy the city lancer pack i just put the face in the style previewAnyways why does it matter if i and the other anon wastes money on a game?
>>1282058The current state of buy to play multiplayer games is that they survive on expensive cosmetic purchases anyway.
>>1282061Lol CSGO was just as filled with cheaters when it was paid, even adding prime matchmaking didn't fix it. Cheatoids will go through any length, people were cheating in ranked when it had a fucking 60 match entry barrier.
Love playing the fucking objective, I go 1/10 with 5000 support and 5000 objective and snap an easy win. Usually my teammates barely are positive killwise themselves, why? Huge brains
>>1282093You can waste as much money as you want. Just bare in mind that for the same money you could get a game that isn't dependent on being always online or even if there are people playing it. It's a nexxon game afterall, who knows when they'll pull the plug?
>>1282107There was an exploit, really early on, that if you left a match, it would count as progression towards the 60 match requirement. So a lot of people just joined and left in the first 10 seconds, rinse and repeat.
>>1282138That is exactly why i'm not spending any more money on the game.
>>1281610>SH1900: clearly weak after season 1 nerf; don’t use myself so idk how to fix. just give it its damage back lol, it's weak because it's a CQC only light weapon that can't kill a heavy in in one mag
>>1281994>assuming I'm underageclassic delusional tactic.seriously tho, didn't they teach you at school that ideas must be explained from the most basic towards the more specific?if anything, I'm giving you a hand by asking for a tl;drwant meaningful engagement? ensure you include one next time. otherwise don't expect me to read all that Shit.
>>1282138But i already bought the singleplayer games i like thirdiekun
>>1282078Good, I can finally call my good for nothing teammates slurs>USER WAS BANNED FOR TOXICITYRedditards defend the no text chat with "Atleast I won't see toxic people in le chat!!!"
brainrot
Season 3 should feature a 3v9 mode where the 3 are in mobile infantry power suits
>>1282976you can already do that on the mic thothe real change is being able to call the enemy team cheating niggers
>>1283016Why would you assume you'd be able to talk to enemy teams. Are you stupid?
>>1283016they need to be able to see it and be reminded that they're fucking deadweights.also, very few actually use or listen to VC anyways, despite VC being opt-out
>>1282992That sounds suspiciously like it has dropped down to nearly 300k from a much higher initial number.
>>1283040no shit the playerbase has dropped.
>>1283040Went from 5th most played on steam and PS5 to the numbers we see todayactive users also aren't concurrent players either
I can stop playing now, very epic
ha ha
It's crazy how helpless medium is in ranked now.
>>1284079Not really, defib and healbeam are still a must have. Turrets are a mixed bag though
>>1284079stop trying to contest heavy in damage when he has RPG, charge n slam, and thousands of HP between shields, healing, and innate health. Swallow your pride, press Q, and hold left click on the two other heavies on your teammeanwhile lights are farming the real lobbies in quickplay
I don't even feel like grinding the weeklies. I do not give a shit about tacky wacky effect cosmetics.
>>1284155No thanks
>>1284168Unfortunately i really like the ak skin in the last circuit. So i'm gonna have to do em.
>>1284168I already own the diamond skin for the AK from gettind diamond in OB, so getting another skin I won't use for the AK is ehh. I'll still do it because I gotta finish the Battlepass
>>1284155People don't understand that sticking the heal wins the encounter a lot more times than joining the fight. You might not get insane damage or kills but as long as you pull 4 to 5k heals per match, it's GGstop brining turret if you don't know how to fucking place them though. And if you use demat, first of all fuck you, second of all, CLOSE THE FUCKING HOLES AFTER YOU OPEN THEM. The ammount of times enemies enter from hacked walls that they open is staggering. Fucking close them if they're chasing you, many classes don't have instant destruction tools and/or they might be less inclined in wasting a gadget to chase your sorry ass.
>>1284194Only if they can't shoot or you're at long range.
>>1281669the whole game stank of corporate sludge since day one, inane safehorny shit was inevitable. I don't see an ounce of originality ever seeping into the finals artistic direction, whether intentional or unintentional.
>>1284194whats the fucking point of demat anyway? I must be retarded but I can't think of any situation precision destruction is really paramount. If you don't blow a hole through something someone else will, and stealth is a meme.
>>1285202seethe
Heavy needs more destruction, more high skill precision weapons, and less tank bullshit. It would make the game dramatically better.
>>1285206You can do some real shenanigans with the cashout terminal. Depending on the circumstances, they can't necessarily chase after it/you or blow up the wall you're shenaniganing without self-damage, and even then, that's burning explosives they then won't have for the team fight. Either that, or it puts their heavy in danger when he's using the non-self-damage tools to break walls, either by being close to danger or burning half his KS-23 tube. Being able to use it as cover in a firefight can also be super strong as well. Do it from a distance, and there's a chance they might not even trace your hits before you shlorp it back into place. In close firefights, you can still get a lot of your body covered, and closing it back up can waste their ammo, quickly make your dudes safe, and again: destroying the wall isn't always that simple. It's a meme tool, but memes are very strong in this game.
>>1285206You can be creative with it, but the applications are limited
The terminal attack rewards are bugged so I'm forced to play this game mode 4 more times for the gestureawesome
>>1266940Didn't this game had two lesbians and a fat jeet in skin tight clothing as a starter? Zero good fps in the market rn.
>>1285370>"Forced" to play the best mode.oh no
>>1285381Best mode is unranked tournament, shill
>>1271328I actually tried that shit and it was confusing and laggy as hell. I mean the graphics were good but the game design is simply eh.
>>1285382>Ranked tournament for beta malesDon't think so chief.
>>1285206It's more available than any other destruction, more precision, pretty damn quiet, is on medium which has very little in the way of terrain destruction as it is, and you can reseal the hole straight away. It's incredibly powerful and fun. If you can't find a name for it you might just be a brainlet.
>>1285381>the best modenow that's a hot take
>>1285408>you can reseal the hole straight away.You wouldn't believe the ammount of fucking retards that don't understand this. Who'd have thought that the enemy would shoot you through the hacked wall?? Fucking idiots. It's good to bring down a cashbox... when it doesn't get fucking stuck that is. And to play from high ground. But at that point, a red canister or a heavy's C4 will do the trick.Anyways, with the ranked meta being geared towards MHH, not having medbeam is an issue. Use it on casual game modes I guess, but the only one worth a damn is power shift which there it serves no purpose
Playing at peak hours in high elo is fucking cock and ball torture, the sweatiest nerds you've ever fucking seen. I'm already diamond, so I can quit whenever I fuckin want atleast
>want to play comp>nobody talks>lose round 1what is this shit
Consolenigs are subhuman
>>1287380in low ranks, nobody talks. those that want to climb the ranked ladder find premades or some shit.Altough to be fair, after the 1 round reduction of ranked, it got a little bit easier
>>1287778turn off crossplay
>>1287871I live in australia. I can't without not getting matches.
>>1287872oof, sorry mate, enjoy playing with chink cheaters
what are the chances that Arc Raiders is coming out now that The Finals became mildly successful?
>>1287879Whats so good about arc raiders?
>>1288043nothing, since it's an extraction shooter>>1287879I can imagine they're still working on it, they do need something to release once the player numbers in The Finals go down and they run out of content for seasons.
>>1288043It's generic brown extraction shooter with a mildly 70s space exploration theme. It was gonna be dead in the water, so they launched The Finals first to gather funds for their real project, Arc Raiders. The Finals was never meant to be as popular as it is (well, was), it was just meant to serve as a testbed for future features and also to rack up the Nexon money.I remember seeing a video of the alpha some anon posted and it was just a third person extraction shooter, it didn't even look great or anything>>1288046just noticed they updated the arc raiders steam page, so yeah, they're still working on it.With the way content is getting released at a glacial pace, I don't know how many seasons The Finals will get.
Has anyone ever used data reshaper? I've seen it used exactly once during all of season 2 in both casual or ranked
>>1288054>they launched The Finals first to gather funds for their real project, Arc Raiders. The Finals was never meant to be as popular as it is (well, was), it was just meant to serve as a testbed for future features and also to rack up the Nexon money.This is made up btw
>>1288088All signs point to this, Arc Raiders has been in the works for much longer than The Finals too. Nobody expected the game to get as big as it did at it's peak
>>1288057I have by far the most game time on medium and I've never touched it. I just can't conceive of a scenario in which I'd want it over all the other options. Maaaybe if APS becomes extremely prevalent? Gadgets for medium are a tough thing to balance because defib + pad or zip is practically mandatory so that 3rd slot is extremely competitive, and most of the time it's gonna be either frag or APS.
What's the difference between a sextraction shooter and an FPS roguelite like Gunfire or Roboquest?
>>1288129That's the takeaway I get from it too. It's just extremly situational and I'd rather have my last gadget slot be something useful like an APS, an extra mobility tool or granade
>>1288057It's a fairly interesting gadget but it simply cannot compete with other options.
>>1287879I really can't wait for it to come out. The formula of the genre is sound, but so many attempts to make new releases are fucked up by design, mismanagement, lack of marketing, or just fail to find staying power. The fact that this game has managed to carve out a niche in the absolute most oversaturated genre on the planet gives me at least some confidence they'll be able to make something out of it, although it is worrying it doesn't really have an X Factor like The Finals. The destruction in this for a mutliplayer game is arguably the most impactful on gameplay in the industry, but Arc Raiders just has Giant Robot, which is kickass but naturally leads people to say "it'd be more kickass if it just stuck as co-op, then"
>>1288054I may be a retard but I'd try anything with the Finals's destruction strain system, even a FOTM (capitalizing on helldivers or just bad timing lol lmao) extraction shooter.
>>1285245>cashout terminal shenanigansI got to try this shit, I dont know why the hell I didnt think to do this it seems obvious now
>>1288768What's even special about arc raiders? I haven't seen their new promotional materials ever since the alpha, so i don't even know what's special about it save for it's setting and cassette futurism asthetic
>>1288858>although it is worrying it doesn't really have an X Factor like The Finals>but Arc Raiders just has Giant RobotDingus
>>1288895>some enemies are big robotsok? It's still another exctraction shooter. A third person one at that, meaning that you can get seen behind cover and ambushed with no chance to retaliate, how fun
Has anyone actually got decent benchmarks for this game on a variety of systems?
>>1287879> The Finals> "Successful"Don't look up the Steamcharts for this game anytime soon, chief. As it stands, it's incredibly likely The Finals will be practically dead in about 3 years or so.
>>1289125Your reading comprehension is awful.
>>1289550>3 yearsthat's optimistic
>>1289550The guy said "mildly successful," and for a new IP by a studio that has proven talent but no name recognition, drawing in and keeping 10-15k players at any given moment of the day long after any "FOTM period" is mildly successful, especially when it's an FPS. It's just that people only see success as a boolean. Either you're keeping hundreds of thousands every day or you're just already dead no matter what. The only problem is that Nexon thinks the same way: their earning report for Q1 states that they find The Finals' success to be lackluster, but at the same time note that it's one of their primary contributions for revenue in the West and pushed metrics quite nicely.
>>1289872>Nexon thinks the same wayWhich is strange given that Nexon has had a bunch of games that have about a couple thousand concurrent daily users for years like Combat Arms.
>>1290170Well nexon just had this to say
The devs keep announcing twitch drops and comunity events ONLY on their shitty discord server. How is anyone supposed to know this shit?
>>1290325When you consider the fact that this game is pretty damn resource intensive I'd say it's doing pretty well for f2p. F2P games usually attract a lot of people playing on potato computers and if you're trying to run this game on anything weaker than a mid-range CPU from maybe 2 gens ago at best it's not gonna perform great.
>>1290369Man I used to run this at 100+ FPS at launch with everything on high, now I run it at 70 with everything on low
Is S3 gonna drop the le epic haxor theme?
>>1290325That's the earnings report mentioned here >>1289872They say it's not doing as well they want but it was also a primary contributor for the Western region
>>1290427Sadly yes
https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/280IT'S UP
>>1291163>Player Voice lines will now only play for teammates and not opposing players Bullshit. Listening for voicelines was a great part of play.
>>1291163>Glitch barrelsLight nerfed again
>>1291163>actual melee changes>can finally turn off aim assistPlease don't let the dagger be ass.Please don't let the dagger be ass.Please don't let the dagger be ass.
wtf is going on, anytime I try to update this game, it finished downloading and when it needs to install the update, it throttles my SSD to 00% usage and lags to hell my pc.I tried cleaning the download cache but it's still not working what the fuck?
>>1291231100% usage*
>>1291163>community event neat>Terminal Attackew
The glitch barrels are really cool and they can't be zapped by APS, they're effectivley better than glitch nades lol
>>1291412Glitch trap is still shit, they ought to make it stun or damage people.
>>1291419I remember, back in CB2, I got to play with a dev and he told me that people were sleeping on the glitch mine. I guess people are still sleeping on it because it serves no damn purpose.
>>1291425As a general rule of thumb devs tend to suck at their own games. It has the same issue as the glitch grenade which is that most of the time I just wish I was using something that dealt damage instead.
>>1291431Medium's average kit is usually too tight to allow for anything other than AK/FCAR, defib, zip/jump and a last gadget depending on map and objective, but usually either APS, frag or explosive mineWhen you think about it, glitch barrels really are just glitch granades but better>can't be zapped my APS>can be used by anyone>easier to aim>explode on impact regardless if it hits something or notI mean they're balanced by their scarcity and the fact that it's a double edged sword but still, if anything, why even bring a light to comp if his most useful gadget can be found around the map now?
>>1291444I agree that defib + mobility is practically mandatory, but the weapon choice isn't that limited, the 1887 is actually really fucking strong and easily able to compete with the nerfed Fcar.>why even bring a light to comp if his most useful gadget can be found around the map now?Well probably for consistency, because you can't always find the exact barrel you need at any given moment. Glitch nade is there whenever you need it ASAP. But yes light is still shit for the most part.
>>1291468Glitch nade also has its trajectory shown when you throw it.
>>1291468The 1887 just needs it's reload fixed and/or allow for more consistent reload cancelling. That and sometimes the damage is inconsistent. Still, that's 3 weapons out of the medium's roster
>>1291484Yes getting caught reloading that thing is awful. The one cope is emptying the reserve completely and interrupting the reload on the first shell, like loading 1 and immediately firing it, which actually has a decent speed.
>>1291484The revolver and GL are also good. And the 1887's reload cancel isn't actually inconsistent you just don't know how it works.
nice update, nerds
>>1291488>revolverlmao>GL40I always bring APSthe 87's cope is that you gotta empty out the tube first otherwise you can't reload cancel
>>1291508I'd really like some performance boosts
ugly faces (limited potential for girls to be cute, or guys to be cool)almost all cosmetics are uncool, quirky, or uglymultiple crashes per session no text chatno match chatcan't mute individual players shitty performance only the COD weapons are good makes everyone use a visually noisy upscaler by default so most people think the game looks grainy and ugly>why isn't our game blowing up like we expected??????I hope Nexon doesn't shut them down, but Embark would deserve it given the incompetence and willful ignorance (regarding consumer demand) they've displayed
>>1291608>multiple crashes per sessionWorks on my machine. No crashes ever since I got a 7800X3D.
>>1291608The cosmetics are also outrageously priced for how shit they are. The rolex is like 800 coins. And the more intresting skins are only for the worst weapons (throwing knives have a trillion different model swap skins)realease was probably the most crash prone it ever was, it's better nowdays but holy hell at launch I crashed like atleast once or twice every day
Stop making me play Power Shift.
>all the free weapon skins you get for using your favorite weapons are just barebones recolors or ugly as sin gaudy purple/pink nightmaresI don't feel compelled by anything except the fun I get out of playing the game creatively, though even that is starting to lose its luster
>>1291806I like payload, by far the best casual game mode.
>>1291608>almost all cosmetics are uncool, quirky, or uglySeason 2 cosmetics are great>multiple crashes per sessionPoorfag retard>no text chatGetting added but plenty of games don't have it, this is not a cause of failure>no match chatSame but even more so>can't mute individual playersYou literally can>shitty performancePoorfag>only the COD weapons are goodFalse, also false framing, there's nothing wrong or even strange with having full auto weapons and you trying to associate that with cod is just a very weak attempt at stigmatizing that. Even if full auto weapons weren't in the game you would still be garbage. Please stop playing. I'm sick of hearing your retardation over and over.
>>1291943I hate when people defend the no text/allchat with "buh plenty other games don't have it!!!" or "well atleast now I can't see the toxic messages!!" man fuck off, there's no text chat because consoletoddlers can't type. And with people hardly using VC, I can't call them shit for brains.The non BP cosmetics are also kinda ass and overpriced, the "goth mommy uohh" one looks like hot garbage and they haven't made past bundles with separate purchases yet, so I can't buy the good parts of the bundles.
>>1292131>there's no text chat because consoletoddlers can't typeThat's not it. There's plenty of games that have text chat even though console players can't type in crossplay. Games like Sea of Thieves lets the two see each other unabated
>>1292170then it shouldn't have been a problem to have it in the first place then. why almost 7/8 months later?Bare in mind, this is a team game with very punishing respawn times, coordination is key, no wonder why at high elo you'll meet the same 10 dudes, all in a discord call with eachother
>FCAR still outclasses AKM in almost every statisticI get that the difference in dps is 2 points but the shots to kill and ttk are still the best out of any other of the medium's rifles
>>1292131they said that text chat is coming btw
>>1292171>why almost 7/8 months later?Because mehFukken retards don't pay a lick of attention to pings, they're not gonna pay attention to text chat. The only major change is now the obnoxiously whiny retards that haven't made peace with that fact will now be bitching in chat and be super annoying.
>>1292181This ignores damage dropoff which matters a shit ton.
Finally done with the Terminal Attack challenges and it was a fucking chore. This mode ain't it.
game needs to update XeSS to 1.3 already
The tutorials are kinda awful at explaining the main game modeNo wonder the new players are bad
Sword dash takes next to no skill, you just get free kills on light (stab+quick melee) and medium (2 stabs). It basically does everything better than the double barrel shotgun with less effort.
>>1292367this has been a problem since release and i'm suprised nobody ever complained about it. New players don't even know you can pick up teammate's revive statues
>>1292131Clearly too retarded to umderstand so i'll explain it more clearly.You said the game was failing from a lack of text chat. But plenty of games lack it without failing. Not looking forward to hearing the whining when you get yourself banned.
>>1292456the guy you replied to isn't me (the guy who said the game is falling behind)God damn your so aggressive and rude in defense of the game being branded as falling behind or being unsuccessful >ummmmm actually the game is perfectly fine and you're all just stupid niggers!!! YOU'RE JUST BAD!!!! SHUT UUUUUUP!!!this game you love has flaws and pretending they aren't there or coping by saying they don't matter won't help it
>>1292456I didn't say it's falling, I'm just saying that I think it's retarded to not have text chat or all chat in a game like this. PC games having text chat used to be the norm, why remove the option entirley nowdays
