>DUDE IT'S LE BLACK HOLE AND PARALLEL UNIVERSES AND LE WHITE HOLE TOO
>>16154149I, too, saw that Verisatium video
>>16154163What do you think of that video?
>>16154149When i was a kid i would wonder whats at the end of the universe. People would say theres a wall of some sort. Its just an event horizon.Fascinating concept, how space can just have a wall where it ends.
why are not whiteholes bigbangs? seems like the same shit.
>>16154167The math is so sketchy on black holes, he is pretty good with his videos to not lie so I think he clearly shows nobody really knows the answers. It feels like a video without a conclusion because it is the current situation.
>>16154149ew why the hell is Einsteins spit so sticky in pic related, is he sick?
>>16154241and for some reason he's not looking at the massive blackhole outside his window, he's looking straight ahead
>I'M GOONNAA FLY THROUGH SPACE AT THE SPEDE OF LYGHT IN MUH SPACE SHIT WITH FRIENDLY ROBOTS AND WE'LL TIME TRAVEL THROUGH BLACK HOLES AND TELEPORT TO THE MULTIVERSE JUST LIKE IN MUH STAR TREK MOOOOVIES>WE'LL HAVE LASER SWORDS AN SHEEIIIIIITTT TOO OMG I'M GOING TO CUM JUST THINGING ABOUT IT I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE SO MUCH!!!!
>>16154241His sinuses are absolutely clogged, because it turns out that he's allergic to black holes.
>>16154250The light of the sun being sucked in must've blinded him.
>>16154167It was cringe and I hated it, but I've also been looking for a lite intro to relativity so I tolerated itNow looking for more info on the Einstein Field Equations, preferably not in french or japanese or whatever the fuck symbols physicshits think are appropriate
>>16154167I like how he went through the history of black hole maths
>>16154149whose cum is Einstein brushing out of his mouth?
>>16154149i always found veritasiums videos badly explainedespecially: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFlu60qs7_4he just draws some lines and skims over everythingthe production quality is very good but i dont think i ever learned anything
>>16154768i learned no one ever measured the speed of light in one direction. Only in two directions, through a reflection, and we measure the effective speed. Could be higher in some direction than in others, no way to know
>>16154768It's pop-science entertainment.
>>16154167Veristatium is why IQ is declining
>>16155985>why IQ is decliningbecause of reading your ideas
>>16154149saw this shit and immediately clicked off
>>16156871should have waited, that graph is also going up
>>16154149something revealed in this video that I find deeply frustrating is the way that math which is clearly meant to describe abstract and often “ideal” worlds ends up being understood by pseuds as>WHOA THE WORLD IS MATH I FUCKIN LOVE SCIENCEbut if you actually look at the math, for example the Schwarzschild solution to Einstein’s field equations, it isn’t describing anything remotely real. Roy Kerr’s solutions are closer to observed reality, but even still what these men are doing is creating a map of a non-specific place and making the map consistent in the way that it measures particular things (angles, distances, curvature, etc.). they doubtlessly have useful applications, but nonetheless they don’t *reveal* anything about reality. A meter stick is good at telling you how long a meter is, but that doesn’t mean the entire world is made of meters, it’s just a tool. When I sat down to read Einstein’s Relativity, I appreciated that Einstein himself seemed to understand that how we apply mathematical concepts (specifically geometry) to the world is ultimately arbitrary, and I feel as though this point is critically ignored today. I think that ignorance fundamentally stems from the fact that the revolutionary advances in physics in the early 20th century were the result of solving wartime problems, e.g. entire field of QM was a race to design the atomic bomb or the example shown in the video that calculus was used to predict the arc of artillery shells. the only problems of a similar scale we have today exist in the finance sector; complex predictive statistical analysis and the manipulation of price data, which is not only done almost entirely by computers but which was in part *designed* by the computers that control it
>>16155985i liked the blue LED one
>>16154186you loop back to the other side4 dimensional sphere bro
His new editor is about to ruin his channel for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf46_yoSX80
>>16158181that is not science and those are not scientists >>>/pol/
>>16154261lolyou have to be a s•yjak tier idiot to actually believe in the that ridiculous jewish pilpul that they try to pass off as legitimate physics
>>16154261people unironically believe in that kind of stupidity and at the same time claim that hollow earth is outlandish
>>16154149what's with the cumstring?imagine watching videos with aislop thumbnails
>>16157245I mean the video implicitly concludes that all that scifi stuff probably doesn't exist
There is absolutely no evidentiary basis for any hypothesis that something like a "white hole" might exist. It's a pure daydream fancy.
>>16160495>There is absolutely no evidentiary basis for any hypothesis that something like a "black hole" might exist. It's a pure daydream fancy.t. Einstein when he was still coping at his initial solutions
>>16160495Fund scientists to make one? Instead of micro black holes?Wormholes have been made in a lab?
*crosses white hole*In this Moment I am Euphoric,not because of any God,but because I am enlightened by my own intelligence.,
>>16160584>if you throw enough money at something, it will cross from fiction to realityJust like black education, I guess.
Anyone else completely lost track of what he was talking about after he changed the graph so all light travels at 45 degrees and then "expanded" it so that it covered all of the known universe in both space and time?I mean I get what that other guy said, if you have a coordinate system with positive numbers, and nothing breaks if you use negative numbers, then SURE. But the last guy said the field equations prohibit all this bullshit didn't he?Why are they ignoring the field equations and just jerking off to geometry?
>>16160600Reification. They're slaves to the math, they don't care about the real world at this point.
>>16160607Sure but I feel like I am missing some context here. Some older nazi who calculated trajectories for artillery guns to blow up slavs came up with a highly idealized solution to some ridiculous set of equations.This was a cold logic man, he probably only cared about the fun of calculations. So why was this celebrated in *physics* much? Is it just that it was the first non-trivial solution that was ever put forth?
>dude just change the coordinate system and your fantasy comes true
>>16157351>4 dimensional sphere broIt can be that and also have walls, not just at "the end", although you could define any wall as "the end". Its like having a fabric with holes, no, the holes are not gates to something, they are just walls that cant be crossed.
>>16154149>PARALLEL UNIVERSESreligious nuts are melting down over AI satan and want to start the fucking apocalypse. imagine explaining to them that you want to open a portal to a "parallel dimension" lmao especially if AI comes up with the solution for it
>>16161687>intellectual educated academics indulging in schizo fantasies>anon desperately pivots to religious people Adorable.
>>16154149All of this you could have gotten by watching a few lecture series on cosmology.It was okay but I learned nothing. Good if you don't have a foundation in cosmology I guess.
>>16161693You're so smart bro.
>>16161690notice you getting offended by my post
>>16161694Quite the opposite friend, I simply enjoy lecture series. You should watch some, they're fun:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZSFKl39YU&list=PLaLvSxPpI1c0IUreSNF2NNA0IJeHUjCyKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-medYaqVak&list=PLpGHT1n4-mAuVGJ2E1uF9GSwLsx7p1xtmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANCN7vr9FVk&list=PL4BUyFYOFtUZIUtcSDo6vm4HPxS9aZmHC
>>16161704fake af
>>16154186What makes you think there is either a wall or an event horizon? Are you considering the Hubble sphere to be an event horizon? Even though it sort of accomplishes the same outcome, we don't have any reason to believe it's the same thing as an event horizon at all do we not? (I did not watch the video btw)
>hay guise, I know everything about the entire universe!!!why is this grandiose delusion such a popular and common coping mechanism for stupid nerds?
>>16163442Replacement for metaphysical philosophy. See also Roko's Basilisk, a replacement for fear of God.
>>16157245Yeah its always like that with relativity, I also like how they would always say "in an inertial frame" which is like nowhere, never in the real universe.Real universe is savage. Its on the edge of unicorn magic and we are just apes looking at shit and building some fancy theories.
I fucking hate science so much
>>16154149i want to beat the fuck out of Verisatium and that stupid ego look in his face
>>16154149So do black holes really exist? Have we truly observed one? Or is it something like dark matter where it's entirely theoretical and there has been nothing found?
>>16155985no u
>>16160607That wouldn't be a problem at all if at least they made sure their mathematical model is fully consistent. It is not, they can't just pick any inertial frame of reference. Light must propagate symmetrically in all directions. Failing to do that leads to causality violations and singularities.
I personally believe blacc hoes are blown way out of proportion by theorists and it's actually a really really dense boring pile of space rubbish. Matter falls on it and sticks to it. None of this dimension or timestop crap. We're just too stupid to explain it yet.
>>16154167I liked it. t. PhD in physics.
>>16160435Actually it explicitly concludes that.
>>16168522they don't exist
>>16168875Yes they do. Here's a photo!
>>16154149Parallel universes are impossible and if they existed they would be identical to ours on the macroscale. White holes don't exist either.
>>16154167It helped me see how utterly bullshit theoretical physics is.
Astrophysics is a joke
>>16166735this is what soiyence faggots actually look like
>>16154261
>>16163351I dont know if theres an even horizon at the end of the universe, just that it could be. I find that neat, before the idea of space having a wall where it ends was just said as a joke, but turns out it could be. Of course a common black hole with its event horizon can also be thought as being a "space ends here" wall, like a hole in cheese.I dont care of any of this actually exists, im ok if its just a math game
>>16170753It is, its only popular because it allows people with extremely irrational and narcissistic personalities to claim "i know everything about the entire universe"
>>16160298>that stupid thing makes my stupid thing legitGTFO
>>16154739Rothschild's
>>16154149wait till u here about the grey hole
>>16166735this is how people who only read popsci think of scientists
>>16154149>Einstein stole all his discoveries from ARYAN scientists and other JOO'S gave him credit to make DA WYTE MAN look dumb>but Einstein was JOOISH>so everything he discovered was fake and a JOOOISH plotMake up your minds, /pol/tards.
>>16174275Seriously, the average /pol/turd barely passed high-school math and here they are are giving their expert opinion on physics.
>>16156871Can't amemba, did they draw all the kerr horizons on that and draw a picture of how John Titor did the timewarp? I think you should be able to draw a curve on that to show a mere mortal how to John Titor right?
>>16169908That's what experts say chud, you believe them.
>>16168842>t. PhD in physics.Hard to believe that
>>16174275>>16174277>being this obsessed with /pol/ go be cancerous somewhere else
>>16160495Black holes are actually white holes, the gravitational potential is so great that all the photons are stuck in orbit and never fly out, resulting in a black appearance, but if you were to fall past the event horizon you would witness a blinding light from all the photons in the eternally circular orbit
>>16177509"white holes" are just the big bang. that seems obvious.
>>16177513There was no big bang
>>16154167his content would be infinitely better if he didnt show his face every chance he could
>>16178892yet you're still gullible enough to believe that same story when rewritten to be atheist friendly
>>16177514Why is everything that's really far away so redshifted? and what's the CMB?
>>16179536>i can't conceive of any other explanations for these observations because i have zero critical thinking ability>all i can do i repeat soiyence memes i learned from the bill nye tv show
>>16179460That's not true. Atheists were outraged by the big bang theory, denoucing it as Christian propaganda which too closely echoed the religious narrative of creation. They vehemently continued to champion the steady state model to avoid any semblence of divine implication. Despite fervent and continuous opposition, Catholic scientists managed to slowly chip away at their beliefs. Eventually the old guard got old and died, thusly, the big bang became the cornerstone of modern cosmology.Similarly, Darwin was shocked at the response from the scientific community at his findings. They claimed his data-first, analytical approach was unscientific and religious - he was no longer welcome in their cicles, for he rejected long-held paradigms. Meanwhile, the Church, who Darwin was afraid of, didn't give a single shit. "Mr Darwin, you're telling me your science says some force guides the progression of species through the ages? Finally! We've been TRYING to tell you idiots about God for ages!"
>>16174275He stole everything from Hilbert, whom only discovered general relativity as a harmless academic pastime. Only jews created a cult around it
>>16180262None of what you said has any meaning.What the fuck is "a harmless passtime", why would it be harmful?"a cult around relativity"Are you fucking retarded?
>>16177483>i'm not /pol/ I just happen to agree with them on everything and shill their opinions and shitty memes everywhere I goNice try, faggot. Go disappoint your parents somewhere else.
>>16180181I'm literally asking you to give an explanation. If you can't think of one right now, just say that, don't cope by meme arrow-ing me.
>>16180238>massive wall of text trying desperately to come up with an eyou're still gullible enough to believe that same story when rewritten to be atheist friendly>"nooooo!!!! you don't understand!!! it was part of a big conspiracy!!!!"
>>16154149>Black hole*Counterspatial sinkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRAgXVJ5fMM
>>16168522We have.
>>16168825It makes sense that they focus so much on them. It's an object where our best theories of the universe break down. The presence of singularities in the formula usually indicate that you have taken the math too far. Finding places where our theories might be wrong is the essence of science.
Why do chuds like to post here so much?
>>16183429Explain why they don't exist. What happens if enough mass is concentrated into a small enough space that the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light?
What's the fucking point of science if there is nothing to do? Everything is either "too complex" for all of the scientists in the world to solve (or they would have heckin solved it before you were born!) Or it's just fairy tale shit that mature people such as myself would NEVER believe in. Fucking garbage. There is nothing to strive for in science because really it's just about protecting this shitty fallen world.
>>16176461Not my problem.
>>16179536The universe is actually orbiting a hypermassive black hole with a strong enough gravitational influence to distort radiation path such that it appears to surround us, the galaxies are redshifted because they're closer to the event horizon, cmb is hawking radiation, the universe isn't expanding, we're all just heading towards our destruction
>>16184051the universe is expanding, and galaxies are redshifted, in all directions and on all sides.
>>16184083And yet for some magical reason things have only expanded radially in a linear fashion, makes perfect sense
>>16184093Yes, it's accelerating at a linear rate as far as we know because of the hubble constant. Why wouldn't that make sense?
>>16184485Why are things conveniently expanding away from earth in a straight line and not between eachother?
Lmao at the seething of low IQs ITTRelativity is realEvolution is real Get over it
>>16184499They are, though. Space expands in all directions.
>>16184553Then the current observations should be impossible
>>16154345>preferably not in french or japanese or whatever the fuck symbols physicshits think are appropriateIf you want to understand the field equations you have to understand the math, which means familiarizing yourself with the objects that the greek letters stand forYou're not really going to understand it without having at least a rough understanding of the math. If you don't understand the math, you don't understand the equations. If you don't understand the equations, you will have to tolerate people like veritasiumThere was a really good video where the different parts of the field equations were explained by a guy who knew what he was talking about but I can't remember it or find it. Shame
>>16184579>>16154345ah here it is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRudidBcfXk
>>16154167I liked it. I'm surprised how he manages to explain advanced topics so clearly and in such a short time.Those kind of topics are sometimes not even addressed by standard textbooks, and when they are you end up wondering what all of the calculations you just did actually mean anyway.
>>16154149Whats the point of the toothbrush? Is it another dumb meme?
>>16184814It's just another lazy dumb ai thumbnail
Should I reconsider studying astrophysics bros?
Listen I used to fucking shit on engineers hard because I thought veritasium was a fucking idiot and embarrassment and while obviously my skill set is more pure and even godlike (god is a mathematician obviously) than an engineer could dream, I have meet a number of great and intelligent engineers who proved to me that applied math is a meme and basically just failed engineers and wannabe mathematicians, a failure at both.I wouldn't program a brutal program for months that does a gorillion hideous computations, but I would let an engineer do it.And so I realized that veritasium is just a shit fuck terrible engineer as well as a pseud retard.
>>16168522I don't know if what people think of as black holes exist but there are enormously massive, very compact, very dark objects of some sort.Before someone says the gif is just the center of gravity and contains no central mass, some of the orbits are waaay too extreme for that.Something is there.
>>16185467While I don't deny that these particular stars orbit the SMBH, I don't think that the entire galaxy itself orbits around it as is often told, and that it is a center-of-gravity orbit in that case.
>>16185479The gif was to provide probably the best visual evidence out there of something that checks the very massive, dark and compact boxes.Again, I'm not claiming these are kerr or Schwartzchild solution black holes, but they're something.
>>16185479That's correct. SMBHes are extremely massive, but they're still way too small for them to have a gravitational effect on the entire galaxy. the galaxy just orbits its center of mass.
>>16185424Yes, don't do it
>>16186827I just intuitively understand it anon. Do you believe SO-16 took that jackknife turn at 0.33 c because of what's shown in your image?You don't need to be a chef to know a burnt omelette anon.
>>16157351>this is what globetards actually believe
>>16186974You can't do math and you have no education in physics so why do you try to pass yourself off as an expert? Enjoying your Dunning Kurgerism? You will never understand physics
They are running out of ideas, aren't they?
>>16154149It's time we cancel Einstein for being a jew and also inventing the atomic bomb
>>16187161Just because you found out about something for the first time today doesn't mean it didn't exist before today, anon.
>>16187221>For being a JewIncorrect strategy.First normalize making fun of their incest.From Einstein being a cousin fucker, to the weirdly coincidental promotion of incest on pornographic sites.Once mocking them for incest becomes normal, then scrutinizing their nepotism becomes the next natural step for the zeitgeist.You can use strategy with Indians as well.
>>16185467fake af
>>16154149reminder that it requires an IQ of roughly 90 to think that those hollywood plot devices are actually real. too much below 90 and you can't understand hollywood scifi memes, too much over 90 and you realize that they're just a scifi meme
>>16154149I don't get why chuds are so mad at that video. Didn't the theory that implied the existence of black holes (before their discovery) also imply the existence of white holes?
>>16161697notice you are buttblasted by his post
>>16188527This here
>>16189646black holes don't exist, the ridiculous idea that they do was based on the ignorant premise that neutrons are fundamental particles and that massive nonrotating objects exist somewhere in the universe
>>16187412When did it start?
>>16189646I'm not mad about the video because it takes care to show that people in the field don't actually believe in that nonsense. There's no consensus that even singularities exist in nature. In other words, they're not slaves to the math. Good for them.
>>16184535Nothing is real
>>16160495Big Bang is a white hole
>>16185544its just objects orbiting the center of mass. mercury goes around the sun faster than pluto because mercury is closer to the center of mass
>>16192297And how do you suppose a fuckhueg star does a hairpin turn without the mass being ridiculously large
>>16192378you've never learned any physics or math, which is why you don't understand orbital mechanics
>>16193225>deflectionaka you're talking shit out of your ass, understood
>>16193255you can't calculate an orbital ephemeris
>>16154149Dunning-Kruger: The Thread
>>16193693You don't have to, invisible objects with such mass displacement don't exist
>>16193693Please, for our reading pleasure, calculate the mass of an object that can cause an orbiting star to move at a relativistic speed. I don't know orbital mechanics, but you're clearly an expert on the subject.
>>16193697this is basically dunning-kruger: the board, lol.
>>16193697>>16194070There is no consensus that singularities or white holes exist or can exist in nature.
>>16194069you don't understand orbital mechanics and you've never even passed physics 101, yet you're still utterly positive that some lame gif means that black holes exist. because every thing you ever learned about science came from hollywood goyslop movies and you're too low IQ to differentiate between TV entertainment and irl life
>>16194075>>16195286serious question to you guys, what prevents black holes from exsiting ?
>>16185467>bu-but muh orbits feel weird :(shut up man, i know that black holes exist but saying shit based off of your feelings is what plagues science, take that shit to a philosophy board or thread
>>16195338What did I say about black holes? There is no consensus that singularities and white holes exist in nature.
>>16195364they don't exist
>>16195511Singularities don't need to exist to make black holes work. Likely, it is some form of weird matter hiding underneath.
>>16195526https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking
>>16157254This. Good story and presentation.
>>16160597
>>16189215Heckin' wholesome
>>16154149I LIKE BLACK HOLES BECAUSE THEY LET ME TELEPORT TO THE MULTIVERSE AND TIME TRAVEL WITH ALIENS!! OMG SCIENCE IS SO AWESOME!!!
Ein(((stein)))
>>16198328you didn't even mention the epic laser swords
>>16196576You post that like whatever is inside a black hole's event horizon actually has any bearing on its external properties. as long as they don't contain mass of one electric charge, or mass that was all spinning in one direction when it fell in, it doesn't matter what's in a black hole. it could contain a big clock for all we know, and it'd look and work the same.
>>16198858DUDE BLACK HOLES OMG!!!!WARP FACTOR NINE THOUSAND SCOTTYGET ME MY LASER SWORD!!! WE'RE GONNA TELEPORT TO THE MULTIVERSE!!!!ITS TIME TO FIGHT THE ALIENZZZTTHHSSS!!!PEW PEW!!OMG I LOVE SCIENCE SO MUCH!!!
>>16199655Very normal thing to say. show your mother this post, she'll be proud of you.
>>16198858>>16199655Laser swords are made out of black holes
>>16169836
>>16201481Why is astronomy so delicious?
>>16202117its called the MILKYway galaxy
>>16199655If the multiverse is real then does that means theres a universe where I'm not a repulsive melvin thats so retarded I think Star Trek is real?
>>16202117https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_Sausage
