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what's the question of the thread?

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>>4313200
>>4309072
>replace "stock photo of gear" with "babby's first b&w snapshit"
>there are only 5 of those in the catalogue, not 27
How fucking hard is it to use a square photo that's actually got film in it?

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First time shooting infrared. No real difference since I don’t have an IR filter lol

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>>4313234
shit I forgot about that

>THREAD QUESTION
>THREAD QUESTION
>THREAD QUESTION
>THREAD QUESTION

What's a readily available filmstock you've never shot before but would want to give it a try?

>>4313241
Why didn't you post a nice photo along with your whining?

>>4313246
Ektachrome 100
Looks every bit the bitches tits.
Need a lot of $ to splice together enough 35mm camera rolls tho lol

>>4313241
cry harder

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>>4313200

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>>4313246
tmax 400. i had to buy one as an emergency as i ran out of film during the day but i havent developed it yet. other than that delta 400. i love delta 3200 so im hoping its quite similar

>>4313244
This has potential to be kino, but your scan is fucking awful

>>4313250
>>4313258
Ten hours in and your dogshit attempt at starting a general has no replies.
Who would have thought a repost of an underexposed, out of focus, shaky snapshit would work out like this?

>>4313293
>it's my fault that the thread is slow in a slow board
ok
make your own thread then ffs
I just used whatever photo indeed, so what?
Just thought the theme could be nice and made the thread since there were two faggots eager to have a new thread but not having the balls to do so
And I didn't want yet another gearfaggotry theme
Keep replying though, you're bumping my "dogshit attempt at starting a general" lol

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Check out this caboose.

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>>4313328
We got an in-focus photo on 5th try, yay

>>4313326
>make your own thread then ffs
Ok, I will make my own thread when this one hits image limit or page 10, like every other fucking general thread on every other fucking board.

>>4313343
cool, man

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>>4313344
Is it cool, really? Are you going to remember your meds this time and stop screeching for NEEEEEEWWWWW when the thread has at least a fucking week to go?
>>4313342
>>4313343
>>4313344
Three posts on entire board over 8 minutes and 30 seconds motherfucker, and you and other faggots are in a rush like it's fucking /b/ or /pol/ or something.

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This is a retarded question, but what is the point of slide film these days? do people simply prefer the look, or are there people still using it for actual slides?

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>>4313346
We needed a new thread. The old one went stale. You must not be a true general connoisseur.

>>4313346
god damn go touch some grass for fuck sake
it's a fucking thread on /p/ you halfwit cumguzzling faggot
get something actually important in your miserable life so that you don't lose your shit over someone posting a new thread when the previous one has reached its limit AS WE ALWAYS DO, retard
When this one reaches the post limit I'll post the next /fgt/ fucking IMMEDIATELY just out of spite

>>4313348
i heard some like the tones for color better, I don't understand because to my eyes they always have the kind of cold desaturation that I'm not a fan of. But then again, I've only seen Fuji slide films.

Another reason is that they may be cheap *sometimes*. I have a lab near my house that is selling a shitton of Velvia 100F for dirt cheap. It's only slightly expired and was cool stored.

>>4313348
>what is the point of slide film these days?
it's fucking gorgeous
the colors are often more saturated, they're cool to look at, you can project them etc.
having a little picture that is the actual film you used and that you can see the fucking picture with beautiful vivid colours is amazing, especially for medium format
>>4313373
>I don't understand because to my eyes they always have the kind of cold desaturation that I'm not a fan of
they look better in projections because the warm light tone makes up for it
You can also use a correspondent filter when digitizing the positives so that you see them with the colors they're supposed to have when using a projector

>>4313362
>When this one reaches the post limit
*bump limit

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boat

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>>4313349
Shut the fuck up and post photos, then the thread won't get "stale".
>>4313362
>posting a new thread when the previous one has reached its limit
No dipshit, a thread on imageboard "reaches its limit" when you can no longer post images in it, or when it gets to page 10 and is about to archive. If you weren't a tourist here you would have known that.
Protip: you don't get karma here for being "first".
>AS WE ALWAYS DO
Not "we", you do. Don't you fucking speak for me.
>When this one reaches the post limit I'll post the next /fgt/ fucking IMMEDIATELY just out of spite
What you should immediately do is eat lead.

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been testing some Rollei films
Retro 400s is a little too contrasty for my taste shot on box speed

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>>4313412
Looks much better than the only one roll of it I shot. What dev?

>>4313405
>If you weren't a tourist here you would have known that.
kek
stop projecting
touch grass
you haven't posted a single photo btw
But yeah I agree, this thread is going to be shit
28 comments now, 12 of them are of you in your childish tantrum and other people's replies to you (including me)
I won't entertain you any further, I won't respond to you anymore
You'll remember me when the bump limit is close though
'cause I'll start thread after thread after thread until you die of internal bleeding from inserting a supertele in your ass everytime you throw your fit

>>4313373
>velvia
>expired

That shit takes forever to show any change unless stored in a sweatshop

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>>4313348
>This is a retarded question
Absolutely correct.
Slide film looks amazing, that's the start and end of any justification for using it

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>>4313373
>I have a lab near my house that is selling a shitton of Velvia 100F for dirt cheap
yeah but what's the address bro

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>>4313414
>You'll remember me when the bump limit is close though
>'cause I'll start thread after thread after thread until you die of internal bleeding from inserting a supertele in your ass everytime you throw your fit
So you admit to being little more than a petty malicious troll, cool. I hope you will get treated as such when the time comes.
A propos
>projecting
There are 3 of my posts on this topic (this one is the fourth), and 8 total with direct replies. It seems like you're the one doing the projecting here. Or just can't count, I don't know.
>Verification not required.

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>>4313412
Rollei 400 is actually a 200 speed film as far as I'm concerned. And every roll I've shot has a has manufacturing defects, like pinholes and backing paper marks on new film. Not worth the effort, Retr 80S uber alles.

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this thread is a reddit colony at this point

>>4313412
I have a roll to develop, I wasn't too impressed with the first and only roll of Retro 400S I've developed so far so we'll see how it goes...

I thought up a fun reason to make 8x10 prints of pictures I wouldn't necessarily frame!

Making a photo book! I will divide each section with a date/location and a little paragraph of the day/subject/theme!

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>>4313099
seems like shutter capping
i think it only happens sometimes at 1/1000, im a bit afraid of opening it all up to clean so ill stick with it see of it gets better with use for now

>>4313546
STARE INTO THE ABYSS AND THE ABYSS MAY STARE BACK TYPE PICTURE.

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Gonna be taking this Minolta AF2 to SF tomorrow
i'm gonna be using 200 ISO fuji film

Any tips you wanna give me for this pseudo point and shoot, or is it foolproof despite its age?

>>4313546
Why would you want to fix it? that looks very cool.

I get this issue with one of my dslrs sometimes when I shoot it at maximum shutter speed. I think it's the shutter not moving as fast as it should and it catches it in the frame, this only happens in portrait like your photos, I suspect that in the horizontal orientation gravity is helping

>>4313556
My tip is to not go to san fransisco, it looks like a shit hole. hope you don't get mugged

>>4313556
Are you going there to shoot street?

>>4313562
i'll be there to visit a friend so i wont be on the streets for too long
we'll be mainly going to shops and then visiting sonoma raceway later which is the opposite of street photography

>>4313556
use the flash if possible. get a close subject if possible. these were not made for infinity focusing. make sure the subject is about 2m away to get the best results. even doing this ur gonna get a lot of bad exposures and missed focus/motion blur but it will help a lot. dont try to use it like a phone or digi cam

>>4313566
thanks thats pretty solid advice
i kind of expected this to be more of an up-close camera so i think after leaving to the raceway it'll mostly be used for interior shots of cars and stuff

i dont mind some blurriness in film, it adds a nice nostalgic and candid vibe to the pictures

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kodak gold 200

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imagine being these fruit flies? and you're all just munchin on some moldy lemon with your bros- ah i was jealous of them for a moment i sure was

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fae pov

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this disabled guy would not stop burning rubber at 1am

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followed the fucker for a few miles

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he wasn't afraid of going through the town wash even though ppl get killed out here

>>4313590
>>4313591
I hope this series ends with you burying his body in the woods

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>>4313593
LMAO i'll have to show you the outcome another time... in the mean time enjoy my last photo from the best of this roll of kodak gold

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>>4313413
HC-110
>>4313426
that explains the contrast
>manufacturing defects
didn't seen any at least on this roll

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>>4313595
YWNBAW

>unpopular opinion
645 is a perfectly viable option for 120, in many ways it’s more usable than 6x6 although both are vastly inferior to 6x7

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Any anons here have shot Linhof Technika 70 and are willing to share their experiences?
I have been looking for 6x7 camera for a while now and now I've been left with it and Mamiya Super 23

>>4313426
>>4313412
This pic>>4313244 is rollei 400 shot at 200 and pulled. I don’t like rollei due to the film itself being so curly. The only rollei I’ve used that I thought was decent was ortho 25

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>>4313608
>rollei 400 shot at 200 and pulled
retro or RPX?
I've shot also RPX 100 and it's a pretty good film

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>>4313612
infared, it was just a roll of film I wanted to fuck with, I generally dont underexpose and pull but I did with it >>4313606 that is from the same roll.

>>4313422
OH DEAR GOD

>>4313556
I would shoot b&w since it'll be overcast there and save the Fuji for Sonoma, it still might be overcast there too but there's a better chance for sunshine

>>4313246
>readily available
Harder than I expected. I have yet to try some orthochromatic b&w films. Retro 80s I like, Tmax 100 is super boring.

>>4313595
was this scanned with a gameboy advance

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>>4313607
Try this instead.

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>>4313695
I would if I could but, unfortunatly, I missed one that was serviced, reasonably priced (-250€) and available locally ;-;
(Also, I would like to use wide-angle lenses)

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>browse local online market site
>see "bundle of camera stuff" for 150€
>first title pic is a lubitel166
>keep clicking the pictures..filters, minolta dynax500, some 4MP digishit etc etc.
>2nd last photo is picrel a yashica t5
>"can i buy individually too ?"
>No
>"i'd pay 50€" Ok which one he says
>to prevent him to become curious about it why i want that one exactly i go
>hmm can't decide which one...minolta dynax5000 or maybe that yashica t5
>2 minutes later i pick on the yashica...
>transfer him the 50€ on his bank
>waiting to get it shipped to me lol
i'll probably keep it.
Just recently found a mju II for 20€. currently trying to sell it.
I need the money so i can finally repair my broken GA645.
Will shoot few rolls with the t5 and if i don't like it at all i will sell that one aswell

>>4313703
/p/, I bought a new lens for my little big boy, the Mamiya RB67
I have a 127mm, and was intending to buy the 90mm because it's equivalent to a 45mm lens in 35mm format, and I'm used to shooting with 50mm and 40mm in smol format
Went for a walk with a couple of friends the other day and a friend of mine lent me his Sekor-C 65mm (roughly 32mm in 35mm format) and it blew my mind
It was exactly what I was looking for
I'm glad I got to try it before making the purchase
I thought 65mm would be way too wide for me
That's it, /p/
I'm hyped
Can't wait for it to arrive and shoot a roll with it

>>4313777
>>4313703
I have no idea why I quoted your post, sorry
'twas by accident

>>4313777
Wide angle is really great fun. I love the challenge of fitting a bunch of cool things in one frame, and the large DoF it gives you.

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got a minolta maxxum 5 a couple days ago, shutter and everything seems to work fine. only thing is that the metering seems way off. picrel was metered for 1/120 at f/8 on 200iso in camera. light meter app said the shot should be 1/400 but that seems way too fast. I can normally shoot in broad daylight like this at least at 1/90 on f/16 so what gives?

>>4313774
Anyone with an IQ of 95 or higher would have seen through your attempt at deception.

>>4313799
The seller obviously has zero clue about cameras.
He probably got it from somewhere and just put them online to sell.
I didn't mention the t5 immediately so he won't get suspicious why from 6 cameras just that one.
So i left time pretending to think dynax5000 or t5 and decided the t5

I want an autofocus K mount camera. I have been looking at the MZ-S, but the rumors of the plastic gears are putting me off with how expensive they are. Are there any good alternative cameras?

>>4313774
>>4313799
>>4313805
it still a sub par point and shit

>>4313811
We went through this in detail some time ago. No k-mount lense you have is good enough that you wouldn't buy an equivalent or superior optic AND camera in EOS or Nikon F for less than ebay pricing on a working MZ-S.
Remove the shit from between your ears and make sane choices.

>>4313783
The camera is right, the light meter app is wrong.
Adding 3 stops to sunny 16 in open shade is exactly correct.

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>>4313813
I'm getting a Pentax and you can't stop me

>>4313818
Consider the pentax 645Z?

>>4313819
I'm looking for a 35mm film camera

>>4313820
Well, FUCK.

>>4313828
Some other dude that posted here for awhile had one and the images were beautiful. I'd like to get one eventually but the glass is prohibitively expensive.

>>4313830
>the glass is prohibitively expensive
Aren't they the cheapest medium format optics with autofocus, second only to first generation Mamiya?

>>4313841
Probably and there are some cheap lenses for the system, but all of the good stuff is still like $2k each, which is just more than I can afford. It might be cheap for medium format, but it's still expensive

>>4313844
Take out a loan and never pay it back.

>>4313844
I would suggest other illicit activities as well, but I'm not trying to catch a ban.

>>4313847
>Take out a loan in your grandma's name that lives in another state
>Buy a motorcycle in cash
>Get a Mamiya RB67
>three backs
>another two lenses
>flee to California
>swap the motorcycle for a bunch of slide film
>spare some cash for a plane ticket home
That's my plan

>>4313851
You could photograph the entire adventure and sell it as a photo series to repay your grandma.

>>4313864
alternatively you can photograph the entire adventure and sell it as a photo series and still not repay grandma
>double the profits

>>4313844
Really?
The ones I see are only a few hundred dollars on the used market.
Do you have your eyes on specific ones?
I think only the leaf shutter models get up around a thousand.

>>4313866
Be careful because she may haunt you if you don't pay her back while she's still alive.

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What flash do I buy for mixed era camera use? I have a 320EX that came bundled with my DSLR and I never use it because it has no controls other than the compensation the digital camera has in the menu so the second you aren't blasting it straight on into someone's eyeballs it has no fucking idea what its supposed to be doing and completely botches the exposure. I want something that can work on modern cameras (TTL?) but also old film shit that only has the one or two pins on the hotshoe, or no pin just PC sync cable so that I can use it with a Y cable with my light meter. That apparently can give me percent of flash contribution AND tell me the settings to shoot at for correct exposure AND stack on like 100 flashes in parallel, which is pretty fuckin wild as far as I'm concerned.

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how many uses does a 1L bottle of stop bath usually get, let's assume the usual Kodak stop bath solution

>>4313899
nvm I'll just stick with a water stop bath

>>4313412
>Dumb nigger is so dumb they shoot an IR film without using an IR filter or #25 Wratten filter
>Dumb nigger keeps wasting money on "testing" an IR film

There's ways of experimenting with Rollei without an kind of filter faggot.

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got some nice halation on the flower, it looks even better on the full res scan

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>>4313783
If you’d learn the sunny 16 rule you wouldn’t have to rely on two different systems to meter. I remember when I wet behind the ears I’d have to carry my meter around with me all the time which was a chore. I’ve read too that light meters only meter for grey, so you have to push a stop above what your meter is telling you anyways. Why live like that? Liberate yourself.

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>>4313912
why are you so mad?
I'll shoot whatever I want
Rollei is very cheap where I live

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played with some polarizer filter

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>>4313933
neato, imagine color, with a multi exposure of the sky on top

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What causes this effect with film? Am i just pixel peeping too closely? bad scanner settings?
This was a roll of recently shot 400TX

>>4313982
what effect, exactly?
grain? digital noise from scanning?
nothing has infinite resolution, you gotta stop at some point
also be clearer with your questions, it's impossible to know what you're talking about

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>>4313985
let me rephrase. In this photo there is an over exposed spot that doesnt seem to gradient from gray to white, it looks like a pixelated blob of white. Do I need to turn down the exposure settings when scanning?

>>4313889
A thyristor flash they work in a way that you only need to set the aperture in the camera, just mind the discharge rate if you are going to use it on a digital one

>>4313988
I still don't get the question...

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>>4314004
eh it doesnt really matter. Im just going to post pictures from the roll. Last time I shot film was in 2019.
Unfortunately the focusing meter must be off because a handful of photos on the prime lens came out unfocused in low light

>>4314006
you arent shooting manual?

>>4314006
look at the schnauz on that guy!

>>4313988
The negative is too dense in the highlights if you're talking about the teeth.

If you're talking about that white speck on the snout it's just a bit of dust.

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>>4314019
I have an N70 with a mix of G/D lenses and some old 80s glass. Usually I'll shoot in P mode when i cant set the aperature ring, that night I was using a 35-135, but the focusing indicator in the viewfiender wasn't giving me the focus dot.

>>4314040
Maybe thats it. too blown out on the highlights. Silverfast gives me the ability to scan 16bit HDR RAW images, but I dont know any software that can process that. If I simply invert the negative it looks like its gamma 1.0 instead of 2.2

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>>4313913
hell yea, love the pushed grain/contrast while still having enough detail to see the spider webs

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>>4314028
Check that nose (Woah!), looking like Jaws when they backstroke.
They're on you like flies on shit unless you're flat broke.

>>4314042
now try a photo in focus

>>4313988
Did you fuck with the curves before scanning? Because it looks like someone fucked with the curves here and just looks awful in general. Try scanning again with all adjustments at 0, in almost all cases you should be doing that in post anyway.
If it still looks like this (flat muddy shit), then dial down master exposure by 0.5 EV and see what happens (or dial it up if your software is retarded, since you're scanning negative). You may recover some of those clipped highlights, and even make shadows look like shadows.
But it could also be down to your scanner's D-max, if it's shit then you can't unshit it, the best you can do is make two scans 2 EV apart and merge them with some HDR software.

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>>4314061
Alright I'm trying it again. all EQ is at 0.

>>4314062
That already looks a lot better.

Also cute dog. :D

>>4313988
> it looks like a pixelated blob of white
because it is
>In this photo there is an over exposed spot that doesnt seem to gradient from gray to white
that's from scanning, or from your editing and it's clipping the highlights
Dynamic range can only do so much, even in digital
You can rescan it in a way it's metered for these dark spots in the negative and then edit both images together, or if you're using a DSLR setup you can shoot HDR images to get the darkest spots and still have an overall balanced image
Chance is you're probably clipping your highlights when editing, though
Get the raw files and check the histogram

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>>4314042
>hell yea, love the pushed grain/contrast while still having enough detail to see the spider webs

I got you bro

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Is reinhart wolf based?

>>4314091
>searching for validation of strangers online to know if you're supposed to like something or not
small dick as fuck

>>4314094
Very very insecure post.

I think he is supremely based, and simply wanted to start a discussion about his work.
Why does a post about a photographer instantly make you think about the size of other men's genitals? Kinda weird.

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Was he just taking pictures of building corners before everyone else?

I feel like the grand master photographers of /p/ would get incredibly angry at me if I posted a picture like this.

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I believe he only shot 4x5/8x10 sheet film, which is why I bring this up in fgt.

>>4314100
Got I hate that the tip was cut off. He wasn't Jewish by chance, was he?

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Last one I will share.

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>>4314102
Sorry, I ignorantly posted a cropped version of the image.

>>4314097
make all the mental gymnastics you will over a figure of speech
it's still pathetic to ask for online validation over what you're supposed to like or not
grow some balls (oh no, I can't stop thinking about anon's genitals!)
Look up Wolf's work
See if you like it or not, make up your own mind
Stop being so submissive to other people's opinions
And stop categorizing the world into "based" and "cringe"
You're not 14, stop being retarded
Asking if someone is "based" is asking permission to appreciate stuff, or not even getting to know it if some random person online tells you he's >not based
It's childish. Submissive. It's limiting.
If you have to search for approval on whether you should like a photographer's work or not, if you can't decide on even the most basic of things, how do you expect to make any decent photo?
>tldr
NGMI

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have any of you used Negative Lab pro before? It can take raw scans and use presets to make it into a decent final image. Im trying to figure out exactly what the preset did to make it look like on the right?
If I try to move some levels sliders I cant match that look without blowing out some part of the image

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>>4314107
Stopped reading after the first sentence. Lmao. Your essay shows me you are mad for some reason. Mental illness maybe?

I was simply starting a discussion about a photographer and his work that I think deserves discussion. Grow up and stop projecting your gay little insecurities onto me.

Oh yeah, thanks for giving me an excuse to post another one of his photos.

>>4314113
>an excuse to post another one of his photos
>his photos
>his
You have none of your own
Understandable

>>4314114
holy kys faget

>>4314115
>guys, is killing myself based?
>pls let me know

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He did more than architecture! I don't do car pics, but I think this is a very well composed shot, and the print looks amazing.

>>4314114
Why are you screeching nophoto after losing so badly? You just want to be wrong even more?

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>>4314119
>after losing
nigga I'm out there shooting and liking what I want without having to ask online daddies
I'm not wrong btw

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>>4314122
>simply starting discussion about photographer
>have images in this very thread
>take pictures of what I want, and piss the real nophotos off by posting them on /p/
>don't have a weird insecurity about my masculinity like you
>don't project my insecurities onto strangers

You are objectively wrong about a lot. You going to cover your ears and squeal some more?

>>4314122
shut the fuck up retard
leave this thread and kys

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Since last thread, I ended up printing this.

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>>4314132

I remember arguing with someone but I don't remember about what, some dude got angry cause I was taking photos of my friends. Sorry I left you hanging, I stopped caring lol

>>4314134
Why are you posting AI shit in the /fgt/?

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>>4314136
Cause it's film, nophoto.

>>4314144
>generate an AI image
>print it out
>use macro lens to photograph print
Nice try, you won't get me

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>>4314145
Fuck, you got me.

>>4314144
>>4314145
>tiger with 3 legs
>tree growing out of his back
>pink leaves
>artifacted to fuck

>>4314134
I'm guessing it's a digital print? I remember asking if you ever tried printing aero. Happy to see you got a nice piece of physical art to enjoy!

Many people have never gone past viewing a scan/digital image on a computer screen, and I think it can really limit your growth as a photographer.

>>4314156
Yeah inkjet on Hahnemühle Matt. I think the other photo from Fish Hawk Cliff's on Aerochrome is next. I really like these prints even if digital.

>>4314157
Nice! They'll be even better to look at when you've got them matted and framed on the wall! :D

I can't say this from personal experience, but I have heard that the really good digital printers are "better" for color and resolution now. Probably not too crucial for your aero pics all things considered.

I'm still holding fast and will be doing ra4 when I have my room built.

>>4314159
Yeah I wouldn't even know where to start with ra4 printing a LomoChrome Purple negative.

>>4314134
no probs, Mihnea

i like shooting black and white with an orange filter. i also like keeping a cheap focus free point and shoot with foma 400 in my car. could i tape an orange lighting gel over the lens on it or is there anything specific about the cheap tiffen orange 21 filter i slap on my konica slr?

>>4314185
if it's the right color or at least close to it it'll be good enough
just compensate accordingly and take into consideration that you're putting something that's not as clear as good quality glass
But the difference is probably going to be minimal and it's a point and shoot so fuck it
Tape it well so it doesn't give you weird reflections

>>4314185
Tell people it was intentional, and that it adds "sovl" to your art.

So, once and for all, what is the best medium format? I quite like the 6x6, since the square format is so dramatically different from 135. It's a good change of pace.

>>4314134
Go back to r3ddit

>>4314209
I was here first. You go back.

can someone please explain to me why I'd want my film lab to push/pull my exposure on my film? I don't get it.

If I shoot it at box speed and my metering is correct, why would I ever want to adjust my exposure? Is there any reason to shoot film over/under exposed on purpose?

>>4314224
i think its genuine autism

>>4314225
My post or pushing/pulling film?

>>4314224
expired film
you want to shoot faster than the box speed - you got a roll of 200 but you want 400 so you set it on your camera than push it in dev

>>4314227
>you got a roll of 200 but you want 400 so you set it on your camera than push it in dev
What's the downside to doing this?

>>4314230
On BW? not much if it has wide latitude for push/pulling. research the specifc film youre using to see how it would look.
For color? No idea unless the film can handle it, again research that film stock and see if anyone has done it

>>4314230
Don't listen to this >>4314227
Garbage advice, ask him to show you proof and you'll see it's nonsense

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This picture came out pretty cool. It's XX at 400, rodinal 1+100 stand. Taken on a nice little point and shoot.

The print still needs a bit of work. I need to see if there's actually information in the highlights...

Any thoughts on the composition? Do you think there's too much floor space at the bottom?

>>4314224
Pushing/pulling allows for contrast control when using the zone system. Not really applicable for 35mm film rolls where you shoot a variety of subjects, but it can be an invaluable tool when processing important sheet film, individually or in small batches.

Have you heard "expose for the shadows, develop for the highlights" before?

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Pic 2 from today. XX shot like this is kinda crazy, but I sorta like it.

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>>4314224
you're not gonna ask them to "correct your exposure" arbitrarily like you're talking
You won't shoot your film at ISO 200 and then ask them to develop like 400 or at 100 or else it'll just come out overexposed or underexposed, respectively
Pushing/pulling is just a tool that is at your disposal, that's it
Like the other guy said you might want to push expired film so that you'll get usable results
You can push to intentionally get more contrast, or pull to get a flatter image and more shadow detail

>>4314230
>What's the downside to doing this?
In theory you'll get grainier images, but depending on the film it's barely noticeable or not enough to bother (at least me)
It tends to work well with b&w film, while with color it can vary greatly depending on the film stock
>picrel is Ektar 100 pushed to 400 iso
Looks like shit, it looks like expired film

>>4314234
not the person you're responding to but
>>4313153
>>4313154
>Kentmere 400 pushed 3 stops (shot as 3200)
I wouldn't be able to shoot this at night at f/8 with iso 400 film
It would all be blurred from movement because instead of 1/60" I'd have to shoot it at 1/8"

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>>4314208
6x6 then 6x9 then 6x4.5 then the rest

>>4314224
if you're shooting at box speed then you wouldn't, just dev as normal

but you can push/pull if you ACCIDENTALLY forgot to set the iso to box speed and still want to dev the roll to be usable instead of under/overexposed. but there's side effects with that.

but you can INTENTIONALLY under/overexpose your film and push/pull in development if you want your photos to exhibit those side effects on purpose.

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>>4314241
Reread the advice he wrote, my response and then your response to me and tell me if your response makes sense. Telling someone to underexpose expired film and then pushing it to compensate for that underexposure will only make the expired film even more grainy. Unless I misunderstood what he said but I'm certain I didn't. Yeah if you don't have the light you should push film and get the shot or if your camera has a maximum speed of 1/400 and it's bright you can always pull film but telling someone to shoot a stop faster and push to compensate for that stop on expired film is shit advice.

Portra 800 @ 50 ISO, pulled twice in dev.

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>>4314251
Did they pull you twice also?

>>4314251
I think the other guy wrote in a very confusing manner, but I think I got it
They're talking about two different situations:
>First situation
Expired film: you can pull expired film (rate it at a lower ISO than box speed)
>Second situation, completely unrelated
If you want to shoot faster than box speed, like shooting a 200 iso film as 400 iso
You'll meter it as 400 and then also develop it as 400

>Portra 800 @ 50 ISO, pulled twice in dev
I don't get what you mean by "pulled twice in dev", by the way
You metered your Portra 800 as if it were iso 50, ok
But what does "pulled twice in dev" mean?

>>4314251
>>4314259
Im the guy who wrote that post, yes I meant those as two different scenarios.
I've never done it myself but I have heard both of those situations occurring before

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Another one. A little generic, but it sums the night up well.

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Point & Shoot Fuji 200

>>4314272
That's art right there.

>>4314272
now THAT is what point and shoots are for
utterly chaotic
amazing

>>4314208
I liked 645 because you get most of the benefit with less weight/cost.

>>4314224
For 35mm photography it was mainly used when the speed wasn't available. Another anon gave an example. You've got a roll of ISO 200 but you need to shoot at ISO 400. Press photographers did this all the time, mostly pushed.

>>4314307
>For 35mm photography
wat
it has nothing to do with film format
also 135 film is (and has been for a long long time) more readily available than 120 (and way more than LF), this makes no sense

>>4314314
See
>>4314237

b&w developing is a craft
pulling portra 800 is just retarded

>>4314317
Suprisingly little technical knowledge from all the answers to that question... Kind of suprising, honestly.

newbie here
is it alright to take my film to a local place and just ask for the photos to be put into a flashdrive?

i dont have the know-how or money to set up a rig to scan my own negatives or develope the film itself

>>4314325
>is it alright to take my film to a local place and just ask for the photos to be put into a flashdrive?
Why wouldn't it be? Do you think they're going to beat you up and give you a swirlie?

>>4314329
Happened to me once.

>>4314208
6x6 was rarely published as a square.

645/6x6 = poor man's MF
6x7 = poor man's 4x5
6x9 = poor man's 6x12
6x12 = poor man's 4x10

Just helped the rest of my art class learn how 2 film camera. Pray for my spare bodies and lenses boys. They're shooting a roll each over the weekend

>>4314329
They could always give him the Kappa Alpha takedown.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180717130402/https://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Texas_AM_Greek_Life_Investigation_Reveals_Cases_of_Hazing_Goat_Shot_116450273.html

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>>4314259
Underdeveloping to compensate for overexposing, cause overexposing film and then developing it regularly isn't actually going to do anything. The pulling happens in the developing process, it's shorter dev times and also lower temp basically the inverse you'd do for +1 and +2 you'd do for -1 and -2.

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>>4314370
>In fact Kappa Alpha has a previous history of hazing at A&M.; In 1997 member Jonathan Culpepper was indicted for misdemeanor hazing after he gave sophomore pledge John Warren a super wedgie.

Warren was unable to walk after the incident and days later went to the hospital to undergo surgery where doctors had to remove one of his testicles.

All for some snapshits. Jeez! I was just testing my new camera.

>>4314376
What do your negatives from portra 800@50 look like and do they require a lot of editing in post?

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>>4314402
I have to find them, no not really. I recall editing it almost like Portra 160.

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Hello frens. I bought myself an Olympus OM-1 a few years ago and went through one roll of film no problems, but the next two that I used ended up completely blank (including a roll I used on holiday to Paris) I have no idea what the problem could be because I haven't dropped the camera, I'm certain the film was sin correctly, and I don't have a camera shop near me that can have a look at it. Any ideas what could be wrong?

>>4314409
Olympus film spools wear out and slip and have on every om shitstem film slr ive had
Its possible the film just never ran through the camera

>>4314409
Isn't paris a shithole now?

Was the winding resistance weird? Ideally you should CLA a camera used for important things.

>>4314410
How would I know if that happened? I haven't actually used the thing in two years, I should say, so my memory of even how to work it is fuzzy. I do remember having to roll the film though, it was at the end of the roll I'm almost certain.

>>4314412
>Isn't paris a shithole now
The good parts of Paris are REALLY good, but the bad parts are complete dogshit. It's well worth visiting for the museums and such, though.
>Was the winding resistance weird?
Didn't see this until after I posted >>4314413 sorry
but as I said, it's been two years since I've used it and I can't really remember. I think as far as I know everything was completely fine, or at least felt fine at the time.
>Ideally you should CLA a camera used for important things.
See I had been using it shortly before and so got lazy, it was also going to be either this or my Sony A600 and I thought film would look nicer so big mistake there. I just bought 3 more rolls of Kodak Gold 200, and I'm a bit afraid of using it. I have plenty of other cameras, despite being fairly inexperienced (long story) though, but I spent 35 euro on new film I'd like to use it on my best camera. I'll probably just have to throw it in some shop the next chance I get because the problem is very vague.

>>4314316
oh you're talking about a variety of subjects across the same strip
ok, makes sense now

>>4314414
You have to use your ear and listen to hear if the film is spooling. If you hear the film moving inside the camera then you pay attention to the resistance of the cocking lever.

Sounds like a more extreme version of what's happening in SF... I went to paris 15 years ago, and had a great time trying escargot and smoking a ton if cigarettes. There were just gypsies trying to scam you.

If I went back to euroland again I would tour the wine countries, and avoid the cities altogether.

>>4314324
>little technical knowledge from all the answers
>no, I won't point out what's wrong
>I'll not provide any additional info either
the answers were right, also

>>4314413
Keep the rewind spool tight and watch to make sure it turns the same amount every time

>>4314417
Isn't it obvious when everyone is saying do it for the "look" or to get an extra stop because I exposed my film incorrectly. PUSH YOUR FILM BECAUSE DARK!

Yes they are fine and correct uses(just lile shooting portra800@50 + N-2 , but is that really technical knowledge of what push/pull processing does? No.

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>>4314420
If only I had shown examples and listed reasons with the post where I stated I shot Portra 800 @ 50, -2.

Pulling, provided you compensate the exposure properly, reduces contrast and some people believe it also reduces grain.

Pushing, let's you use the film for darker scenes, where you compensate for the lack of light with increased development time and temperature at the cost of more contrast and often times more defined grain.

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>>4314376
thats a lotta words, but im gonna chalk it up to autism

>>4314425
You take nice pics. It's fine.

If used correctly it also makes scanning and printing much easier because you can control where your Dmax ends up after development.

>>4314426
Honestly, yeah, probably.

>>4314428
Sometimes I do, but I disappoint myself a lot too lmao

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>>4314437
forgot token photo

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>>4314437
Atleast you didn't spend 60 hours on a shitty painting, right?

Dont forget that most famous photographers only have a handful of truly great photographs after a lifetime of effort.

Just gotta keep on moving forward!

>>4314416
>>4314418
Thanks, I'll risk a roll of film and see if I can't post some cool looking sheep.
>>4314416
Sounds like a more extreme version of what's happening in SF... I went to paris 15 years ago, and had a great time trying escargot and smoking a ton if cigarettes. There were just gypsies trying to scam you.

I avoided all the gypsies, a lot of African lads trying to sell you beer around the Eiffel Tower though, but they weren't pushy or aggressive. Everting around the Seine seemed very nice. It would be a great place to live if you were rich.

>If I went back to euroland again I would tour the wine countries, and avoid the cities altogether.
A lot of good countryside in Europe thankfully, a lot of nice little cities too without too many tourists. Although they might be a bit boring if you stay more than a weekend. South, Southwest England is very nice, and It's actually become a great place to grow wine, funnily enough. Bath is a great little city built around the Roman Baths there. Iceland is great but very boring after a few days. Vienna is a gorgeous city, even if it is filled with tourists.

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I probably asked this before, but many years ago I sent a roll of Fuji 200 in to get developed from a guy id had been going to often, and when I got the negatives back they were sticky and smelled like vinegar and the negatives had a green mask instead of orange. The guy didnt know how i happened but gave me two free rolls to make up for it.
Over time the negatives keep getting worse, but im just wondering wtf happened? was it dev'd in E6 by accident or something?

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>>4314449
every few years since then i've done rescans and the film gets even worse

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>>4314450
No fixer?

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>>4314450
its a cool effect in the end but im guessing eventually the film will be all eroded

>>4314452
any guess is better than mine.

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>>4314449
Improperly washed. That's fixer still fixing, or maybe bleach still bleaching.

Rinse under running water for 20 minutes, dunk in photoflo and let them dry.

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>>4314456
Good to know. That was 11 years ago so nothing can be done about it now, but good to have solved the mystery

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>Gold 200
>Fuji 400
>Tri-X 400
what do I shoot this weekend lads

>>4314549
Push tri-x to 1600 and use a yellow filter.

>>4314420
I was explaining how the images turn out (grainier, flatter, more contrasty etc.) because that's what the other person asked
But I also mentioned the different uses of it
>>4314241
>Kentmere 400 pushed 3 stops (shot as 3200)
>I wouldn't be able to shoot this at night at f/8 with iso 400 film
>It would all be blurred from movement because instead of 1/60" I'd have to shoot it at 1/8"
I mentioned why I shot it at 3200, gave visual examples, explained how it made possible for me to shoot stuff that otherwise I wouldn't be able to
There's only so much we can do, man
All bases were covered, including "push film because you'll be able to shoot in dimly lit environments"

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phoenix 200 left in my car for a few months

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when do tempurature fluctuations begin to affect color film? I think the color on these look fine. My car gets a little over 100 degrees on certain days, and when it rains it gets pretty cold at night.

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Also, I see no difference between Phoenix 200 and Kodak Gold 2

>>4314224
Because it's fun. Also If you like hicon film with lots of grain- something really crunchy and cooked. It's not for everyone.

I was working on an indie feature. We couldn't afford enough lights for this large space we were renting and we had to be lowkey about our filming (it was a Mausoleum). For most of the shots we used whatever ambient light was available- we shot at the lowest f stop available on trix 200 and asked the lab to push to 800. iso 800 would have assured we got at least some visible images, and we did. We got great footage out of it.

>>4314569
You guys didn't meter at the time?
Would have helped a lot instead of gambling, especially when you're on a project and renting places
I'm glad everything turned out fine, but that seems unprofessional

>>4313695
I fuckin hate KUM JAPAN with their descriptionless fucking listings argh

>>4314586
It was very unprofessional, but not for the reasons you stated. It was an avant-garde passion project, and we were shooting for free at a location that normally charged a $10k day rate. We shot with no insurance and didn't follow any child actor labor laws because they were very close family friends. As far as lighting goes everything was by the books. Our cinematographer is boyscout.

I don't remember the particulars, but I believe we metered around f.1-f.2 or somewhere abouts. And anywhere the light dropped off at theoretically would have appeared black. We metered again for 800 and got a lot more visibility, but not as much as we would have liked for such a beautiful location. In the end the final results everything was exposed perfectly, and objects that were supposed to drop off into blackness even at 800iso appeared lit.

>>4314603
*the child actor was a close family friend, the location owner was a friend of a friend who happene to be feeling charitable

>>4314251
Cute lads, can you take some nice film photos of their cocks next? Black and white even is fine.

>>4314251
op did you lettem cum in you too? get tested for aidz faggot

>>4314607
Are you that dumb nigger who shoots rollei ir without an ir filter? He literally thinks any woman posted on there is a troon. 100% sure he's a closeted faggot.

>>4314602
Lmao. That name... They have an absolute fuckload of camera shit listed. Insane. The prices seem pretty good, but is the risk worth it?

>>4314614
I’ve passed up on a number of seemingly good deals due to them having literally zero description of the items. Other japs stores at least try in Engrish to say if something works or not. Risky but if you’re buying older more reliable mechanical stuff, maybe not too bad

>>4314614
It's been about 75/25 on Japanese sellers for me. Usually it's exactly as described with no issues other times the listing was misleading at best. Usually though if you contact them they are very willing to approve a return or partial refund if it's fucked up.

>>4314625
I bought an rts3 body from Japan, and it was completely broken, so they just gsve me a full refund without shipping it back. Pretty nice.

>>4314626
I've been told before that a lot of the ebay listings are actually like arbitrage listings from Japanese auction sites and most of the people don't actually have the product they are selling. It's all in a warehouse which I can say is anecdotally true. Every time I have asked about specific details or more photos they usually respond that it's in storage or a warehouse not immediately accessible to them. So I think most of them don't know if the listing is accurate or not.

>>4314629
That's my exact experience with a variety of things I've purchased. They have always been super helpful if a listing is wrong.

Kums japan has almost 160k listings it makes sense that's how it would be.

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>>4314614
>is the risk worth it?
Use your discretion.