Good job everybody last thread stayed for almost 5 days anyways, Welcome everybody again into our #2 edition of this shitty thread which isAstral retardation editionAnyways blabla bla Astral projection is when your soul leaves your body and goes to another realm yada yada.Anyways in this general thread we discuss Lucid dreaming and Astral projection, You can ask whatever you want, Answer whoever you want and if you have any theory about an astral body that can be fucked in some realm then go ahead the space is yours.Anyways my inquiry is:This time i got super super close it felt insanely energetic since i used an actual hemi sync video this time rather than only myself and I actually saw a vision of a character from a show standing on the edge vividly before breaking from that and seeing a huge shadow above me but it was very dark and could only see it partially and the room was half visible. Anyways after that i tried to move my legs i felt like it tried to break but then i fucking moved my physical body.My question is:Did i get close ?Should i keep moving my astral body until it actually moves or just stay still.
Everybody keep bumping so it stays longer like the last time
Based, BumpNo one answered me in the last thread tho why i cannot exit i also move my physical body by mistake
We used to have an actual LD/AP general with resources a long time ago. Your OP sucks dude
>>37795743That's me Resource doesn't matter since no one reads it anyways, I'm too lazy to copy the same from the archives and it's better to attract people who really want this shit instead of the larps
>>37795705This is how you lucid dream: fall into the state of mind or being that is right before sleep and wake its very tricky: next get the vibrations or tingles all over your body
>>37795750I meant obe but it works for lucidity as well and is lucidity.
>>37795750I know that, i've been experiencing for months but it's still hard to detach from the physical and the etheric body
>>37795810Yah what is that feels like q magnet drawing you back in. I usually run real fast and try to go through the wall but it generally doesnt work and i get sucked back in and go into a dream waking up in the morning or some other crazy shit
Bump
>>37795891Yeah but the problem is when it try to stand up it's so hard to move the other body it doesn't work i want to know whether i should just wait for something to happen
>>37795921It sounds like your perception is a little different than mine but uncannily similar. There are enormous woman demons in the astral be careful
>>37795921Its like sub-space i think. Like star trek
>>37796004You can draw power from them like dr strange with the devil deity from the alternate universe time stone believe it or not
>>37796004It's cool i like females
>>37796059You wont like these bitches and if you do i wont like you and all my ten girls
>>37796069But even if you think you like them go ahead be my guest
>>37796077>>37796069If only i could've exit i don't care about them lol
>>37795705So.. how do you lucid dream?
I'll bump if you talk about shifting I don't care if you think it's an LD or AP experience.
>>37796077You be my guest
>>37796445You do it by not talking so loudly
Really? Cuz im pretty smart: where in the fuck do u you find history in this page u piece of shit
>>37796721
Your are not a piece of shit but u r seriously pissing me off
>>37796737Excellent
So I was trying to meditate without a guide. I used binaural beats at 7.83hz and reached Focus 12. From here, I felt my body vibrating and seemingly stepped out of my body and went to check on my toddler upstairs who has recently been having nightmares.He was taking a nap, and I saw a black shadowy figure standing over his bed. I expanded my rebal and told him to leave my son alone. Almost instantly afterwards I was back in my body, and not 2 minutes later, I hear my son upstairs crying for his mom.When I go to check on him, he tells me he doesnt want to see me because I scared him, and that's why he is crying.What the fuck happened?! I've never seemingly had an out of body experience. They always just feel like I'm daydreaming with zero distractions, and this one was no different.
>>37796783Babies actually are highly conscious of the astral plane
>>37795749Based truth.
I was super close tonight , i projected unconsciously, any tips on how to get those shadow memories
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>>37795705I've used the hemisync stuff with mixed results myself. The first night I used tape 1. Despite it bot even being made to do this, I actually did have a lucid dream. Was an abra (I'm a pokemonfag) and I just started walking around my hometown. Was pretty coll but I haven't been able to replicate the experience since thenI don't exactly know how to describe walking in a dream. I more had to imagine it personally
>>37799465>>37797948>>37796691>>37795906If you're gonna bump a thread, do it by asking a question or telling your own story
>>37796699>shiftI tried hard to shift this year, after almost 3 months of constant trial and error attempting every night with some breaks.I used the Julia method exclusively while playing that Aphex twin stone (if you know a better method, pls let me know).Since I didn't really want to exhaust my mind and overcomplicate my first time if I succeeded, I memorized an Iland with every detail! from the flora, colors, and tiny fauna.Regardless it didn't work, even though sometimes I think I got really close, but after so many attempts I got demoralized and kinda gave up. what upsets me toughie is that I actually felt unnatural sensations while deep in the steps (like once I literally felt someone pulling on my right arm, even though I was alone in the room and it was 2AM)Does anyone have tips or tricks?also the captcha is titanically homosexual
>>37799575Off-topic
>>37799603yo mama
>>37799622This is the quality I’d expect from someone trying to post reality shifting in a non-reality shifting thread.Just go start a reality shifting thread.
>>37795705Do cigarettes affect dream recall?im smoking for 3 months already and barely remember dreams
>>37799750Nicotine can raise your alertness while you're smoking but it causes long term damage to the brain along with all the other well known side effects. Don't smoke if you're gonna try to lucid dream. Besides, your brain can give you highs better than any drug
>>37795705If you want this to be a general you need a better opening post OP. To answer your question ditch the video and ignore the creatures your mind creates. It's just noise you need not pay attention to. As for movement breaking the sleep parlysis just keep trying, it sounds like you're close. However next time it fails do not go right to sleep. I don't care how sure you are that you're awake, do a quick reality check. Yes the lucid state can look and feel that real. My preferred method is to try and stick my thumb through my other palm.
>>37799532Bump
>>37796445Nicotine pastilles sublingually.
How come I can have lucid dreaming sequences where I fight 8 people at once and savagely beat them with a piece of rebar and maintain lucidity just fine but if I try to have seggs it only lasts a minute or so before I wake up? Also I can never climax in lucid dreams, it's so annoying.
>>37801696First off, you're wasting a powerful tool on hedonistic bullshit. Shit's worse for you than porn. Second, you can't climax because it's hard for your brain to comprehend what you've never actually experienced.
what are some kewluciddream ideas other than the obvious?>the classic: fightflightfuckfireball>teleportation>moving through walls>meditation>traveling through space, dimensions, etc.>meeting entities, characters, dead people, etc.>practicing things for irl improvement>bothering dream npc's with stupid questionsthese ideas seem to be the only thing anyone can ever come up with but there's gotta be more
>>37803072>become animals>take drugs>build a large world>help dream npcs with their troubles>practice magic
I can't just astral
>>37803997right those are common ones too and half of those I already mentioned in some way but is that all that can really be done in a lucid dream?
>>37804051It's not a fucking video game dude. You can do what ever the fuck you want. I'd recommend not abusing dream people though
>>37804133yeah I know but what specifically? all I hear are the same old ideasI'd recommend abusing dream people though
>>37805017>I need idea for my dream>I can’t even lucid dream anyway so I am skipping a step>I’ll do the opposite to what you tell me anyway lolYou seem fun.
>>37805027I never said any of that (except the first one), dumbassI'm just looking for ideas and wondering if that's really all there is to do in a lucid dream
I was flying a plane and crashed it in a small town, I left and chilled at a bar across the street from it because I wanted to try and add it to my insurance before I talked to the authorities. I couldnt figure out what model plane it was though because the cops were too near it. I think towards the end of the dream I was walking over to turn myself in but I woke up. Maybe I should take up piloting?
Does anyone have info on the spiritual implications of weed smoking?Because if ive noticed any consistency, its that when im smoking weed I dont dream. I havent had a drag for 2 weeks now and ive only had more and more dreams as well as more intensity. Feels kinda metaphorical if it werent so literal, weed steals your dreams.
>>37806554Weed shits all over your REM sleep and memory. Spiritually it makes you lazy and psychotic.
>>37806580Agreed, shrooms were much better at expanding my consciousness, weed only dampens it.
>>37802455I'm not a virgin though. Had plenty of sex before. Also explain why sex makes me wake up but not fighting/killing? I thought any "exciting" stuff makes you wake up faster.
>>37806554I smoke weed everyday and I still remember dreams nightly and get lucid sometimes. It used to stop my dreams but it just stopped eventually. I don't know why.
I have not been able to have a full OBE as people describe, on a few occasions I've seen rings like I'm going through a tunnel and then it is like I collapse into myself and project my awareness into the collective unconscious or some astral realm, but I wouldn't describe it as fully seeing and I still feel attached to my body. Trying to AP makes me absurdly tired and makes my mouth extremely dry, I tried it today for example and just faintly sensed spirits but I'm still tired and have a dry mouth hours after. And I mean it when I use the word extremely, makes this very uncomfortable.
First month of trying. Still no luck, but getting very close. Im at the stage when the body is freaking out and forces me to swallow.What has helped me advance so quickly? Constant audiobooks about the subject. A list of targets and plans. Cardio and meditating with binaural beats before bed. After every failed attempt I immediately reset with loud OHM chants receding softly as I move into a stage of close my mouth and breathe. The vibration stage is no longer exciting. I am have deprived myself of sleep for 3 days and i am about to go to bed now. Will check back in if thread is still up tomorrow.t, candle guy
>>37809123>Also explain why sex makes me wake upOur body is made like that, in case our body is in danger it wakes up up so we react.In this case, the brain feels mini-contractions on the member that happen because of the pleasure, it thinks it's outside stimulus, it senses danger and it wake you up.To avoid it you need to get asleep so deeply this is bypassed. We do that automatically in wet dreams.
>bump threadSure, I'll dump a dream.>arrive in a gigantic building complex that's also a VTOL craft>arrive in a classroom>have some small talk>three fat women come in accusing me of doing terrible things to them>they look like stereotypical nu-wicca types>they identify me by name and various descriptions of my life>they manage to get most of it right but it's not anything that anyone else would've known>can't get a word in because they're shrieking nonstop>people in this classroom think I'm a piece of shit as a result>an old woman shows up to provide final arbitration>her point is that if they really know everything about what I did, they'll know my ID fingerprint attached to the actions>all actions have identity attached to them>if the ID fingerprint is right, then I'll be guilty as charged>"WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER?">I don't answer>"IS IT 22578?!">I answer to the woman that I've never had a five-digit identification number ever in my life>I mention that I usually only have six-digit or ten-digit identification numbers>the old woman reads me like an open book somehow and realizes it's the truth>their faces turn from smug to panicked>the old woman makes them disappear somehow>I sit there wondering what happened and if these horrible women ever faced consequences for their false accusations>the old woman pilots the giant craft to send me back homeMuch love from Kazakhstan.
>>37795705>Lucid dreamingNot a real /x/ topic, it's an actual, scientifically documented phenomenon. Mods, ban these fags.
I had this experience once where i closed my eyes and in an instant i appered in a desert It only lasted for a minute or so but it was so vivid and incredible(not like my usual astral/lucid dreams) because i was fully conscious i was like being teleported or something never had the experience again but did any of you had a similar experience and if yes do you have any tips on how to do it again ? I would like to explore astral realm in these condition it felt so amazing and real
>>37810267Hmmmm, that actually makes sense. Is there anything I can take to make sleep deeper? Maybe sleeping pills? I already take melatonin every night.
>>37810690>Is there anything I can take to make sleep deeper?Easiest way is to make your sleep environment excessively comfortable. That's a combination of bed, bedding, clothing, habits before sleeping, etc. Basically turn sleep into an artform.
Bump i'm not letting this thread die
>>37810776I mean like a supplement or something. I already get around 8 hours of sleep a night and my bed is comfortable enough.
>>37810909Yeah, there are many supplements for this, like galamantine or huperzine-a, etc.
>>37810933I've lucid dreamed on galantamine before but still had the problem of not being able to finish sex properly. It's really annoying.
>>37796445it usually just happens for me when taking a nap after lunch and by lying on my back
>>37803997If I post you a picture of a four leaf cloverThen tonight would you send me a dream on over
How does weed affects astral projection? I still have dreams when high so...
>>37810565Lmao.Actually true.
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night feeling paralyzed and with a strong buzzing through my body. But I always get scared and pussy out. How do I drop that fear reflex?Also, have any of you managed to "wake up" from this reality construct?
Someone fucking help me please i had a horrible Lucid or Astral or whatever the fuck that isNow i'm actually only a novice i started for like 2 months and still haven't projectzd only this morning I got close since i didn't slept at night but failed still i felt an insane numbness over my body parts, I rolled and slept but what fucking happened is, I actually dreamt of a dream in a dream and i woke up by it and I was so fucking frightened the atmosphere was so lovecraftian that i was traumatized by it in the dream, i screamed at the top of my lungue i woke up my sister in the dream but eventually i went back to sleep, then this happened, I fucking spinned so hard in the kitchen that i projected inside of the dream, I literally left my body in the dream but there was this blankness and i came back to my body and tried to talk (similar feeling to dream paralysis only this time it wasn't).What happened next is i saw my fucking grandma and someone in my salon covered and man i tried to even conceal that shit in my dream until i burst out with tears and even heard someone say that's fucking creepy, I saw my Grandma laughing while she died like6 months ago. Fuck even now i got chills anyways i woke up again in the dream everyone was angry. Then someone reminded me of a lost part of my memory then I woke up.I don't even understand at this point what the fuck was this, I would've believed it was a nightmare but I actually projected and even i fucking was in it getting tortured.
>>37813026Called Sleep paralysis, no one can actually so shit about it
>>37795749i used them
>>37795705What does meditation feel like in an LD? Also, anyone else had these crazy musical experiences inside dreams? I have still never heard as much of a beautiful song as i had in that one dream, and i've never been able to replicate it.
>>37813171Please someone answer
>>37796004Cute.
>>37813219answer with what exactly? Your story isn't very comprehensible. You had a bad experience.
>>37813327I literally projected inside a dream and i had a horrendous experience
>>37813330I think you just had a dream. Please do not get upset.
>>37813205yep. those resources are good and the shills are itt all the same. There's no reason to not include them imo.
Could anybody be of help, whenever i get close to astral projecting my spirit onto material or otherwise plane, my left kidney starts cramping up and jostles me awake.As long as im an observer of events it remains content but as soon as i try something it gives me this phantasmal pain. (ive been to doctors to check if it was just a physical disease, however its very healthy)
>>37811877Duuuude, I just had a dream last night where you and I were driving across the country in a Toyota FJ smokin' ounces o' dank bud. When I woke up this morning and looked down at the bathroom tiles I saw a bespectacled professor and a couple of covetous jews staring at a 4 leaf clover wtfffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>37814535Have you tried AP seated in a chair, or positions other than what you normally try with inducing OBEs?
>>37815271i usually do it in the lying position simply because of convenience and when i do it but your option does seem like a viable strat to check out. My other option as much as tough its to think of is that i simply am not pure enough for it to happen, i have checked any spiritual connection to kidneys and apparently God capital G will judge you by your heart and your 'reins' which are your kidneys and also the sacrificed organ from animal during sacrifices. If cleaning myself up wont work ill assume its just a tug on my soul that im not supposed to be there. Ill write in the tread again if i find out.
>>37813171That doesn't even sound that bad, you pussy. I've had lucid nightmares that were much worse and I just rolled with it and fought back.
>>37803072>listen to perfect music>eat perfect food, as much as you want>experiment with low or no gravity>see normal places from the perspective of ants or giants>things that are expensive or time consuming, like going on rides without waiting in line>generate movies/anime of books/manga you've read that won't get adaptations
>>37810800In my dream tonight I want to learn how to fly
>>37795705Not sure if this counts but I had a very vivid dream in which I clearly remember the conversation and I made a lucid joke that only I would make awake>in bed with three women>take out my dick for a bj>some girl comes over and begins grating my dick with her teeth>I can feel it>make some jokes about how awful the head is>the other two girls laugh>she cries and walks off>joke about my boner being killedThere were some other sexual encounters earlier in that dream. I haven't jerked off in a few days or slept a full 7 hrs when I normally nut every day and sleep like 5 so that might be why.
>>37820537>I need to talk about my fetishes on a paranormal board.You got issues.
>>37795705Yes you got close. Your brain was already asleep but your body wasn't, that's why it moved physically. Were you using drugs? Drugs fuck up the natural process. You'll know when your body is asleep, it'll feel numb slightly.This general is pretty bad, a shadow of what LD generals were like months ago.
>>37813171It's a lucid nightnare with low paralysis mixed in. Don't think much on it. It's mostly your brain with logics turned off. The 'blankness' part is concerning though, that's either a partial render dream or you were able to project into a lower dimension. I doubt it was a lower dimension as it's clear it was pulling from your deep memories, there was also a lack of tells of it being a projection. You're fine.
>>37795705Spirit walked in space last night looking for a recently deceased family member.Found them "sedated" in some kind of floating chamber deep in space guarded by some kind of entity that was able to appear through the fabric of space that basically told me to go away.
I have these odd feelings sometimes where it feels like I'm waking up and trying to move my body, but it feels almost impossible. I can make some progress out of bed before I actually wake up for reals in the same position I started in. Am I doing some of this LD/AP shit on accident and trying to leave my physical body or am I retarded and just having gay dreams?
>>37796783I've had this theory on the shadow beings that people see. It could be people's very own souls or an imprint of it, just as objects appear black if it absorbs light. The entity you saw may be your son's form in the astral.
>>37820667Sleep paralysis. False awakenings.You can take advantage of it and try having a lucid dream.
>>37820545You ought to open up more, sex can be a very spiritual subject.
>>37820545 How is someone giving such a bad bj during a dream that you complained about it somehow a fetish? That's like the most vanilla shared sexual experience guys have had. Everyone has been with a girl being a starfish, complaining you didn't last long enough or getting out of breathe when she was on top for less than a minute.
>>37821333>>37821354I’m sorry you need to keep posting about it.I can’t apologise for the absolute state of a loser you are enough.I’m truly sorry for you.I know you love anon dick posts.
>>37821429That's not nice anon
>>37820650That sounds profound. I just dreamt about a bunch of nonsense last night: First I was watching my friends racing around a track, then I was hiding or looking for something in a pile of construction materials, then I was watching people slide down some sort of amusement park ride, and then I was listening to people talk to each other in some language i couldn't understand at a restaurant in... cuba..?
>>37821429Yeah, that's not nice anon. Maybe you should come clean tell the thread how you really feel about these kinds of things.
>>37821354>Everyone has been with a girl
>>37795705morality leaving my body when the villainess is hot
>>37821429You sound bitter.
>>37809215Does nobody else get super tired and an extremely dry mouth trying to AP? Am I doing something wrong.
Anyone know where i can listen to audio that helps with the OBE state being achieved
>>37821439>>37822591Astra dick chasers
>>37822710I didn't know 16 y/o's were allowed in this website.Grow up.
>>37822820Is it grown up to post your off topic sex dreams on /x/?
>>37822852How is it "off topic" when it's about a dream in a dream thread? Pathetic wannabe jannie, kek.
>>37823124>dream in a dream threadIt isn’t.
>noooooooooo! Don't talk about sex dreams in a dream thread! I'm an awkward virgin and it's making me uncomfortable! Off topic!
What's the best way to summon a particular dream character you want to see? I've been having trouble with that lately.
>>37795705why is OP such a faggot man? put information in the thread or shut the fuck up
>>37822609No, but it usually leaves me with a very mild headache
>>37795705I AP rarely and lucid dream like once a week.Lucid dreams are weak, cant manifest or create alot. I AP like once a month, i could probably AP way more but the time it takes to fall asleep while im aware can be long.Usually when im close to detach, the earrapey tinnitus and crackling is not scary anymore but i get aware or my breathing and fuck it up 90% of the times :D Rn im just doing daily mantras to fix it all :)
>>37795705Bump, You ain't gonna get us janny
>>37823566Pls respond
>>37825825>I AP rarelyBy rarely you mean never, because it's not a real thing
>>37826528Based truth>>37825825>:)>:DPathetic
I really enjoy coffee, the advice I have heard is to avoid it when you are inducing the intentional controlled OBE.
>>37823566>>37826523You don't want to re-create visions, trust me. You're yelling into the abyss where entities lay who can deceive you, dangerous for both you and the dream person.
the monroe institute has been posting their recording tapes to yt lately (not the gateway experience tapes but the recordings of subjects during focus) anybody been watching them or use gateway?
>>37828048>visionsWhat? I want to summon various anime girls to spend quality time with. I used to be able to do it often but it seems whenever I try lately it's not working.
>>37826528It was real in my mind.Think what you want, AP glowies are real.Our so called realm or whatever is full of parasites.The loosh farm is real, AP is like lucid dream but you really cant control the landscape.I fought with shit, its fun. Doom slayer mode, you can be so strong, god tier. Lower vibrational faggots aint got shit on me.Try a simple thing, imagine reclaiming all the loosh youve lost, because you did not consent. Meditate on it, you will vibrate, the surge isreal. I can 110% bet you will get stupid nightmaresBecause you will piss them off.
>>37801696>>37809123You want it too hard and you probably have some negative associations with sex, like guilt or shame. It's tricky, you have to focus purely on the pleasure, not try to finish, and it should flow better/not wake you up
>>37831452>>You want it too hardMaybe>have some negative associations with sex, like guilt or shame.Definitely not.I'll try your advice. Also would it be better to make the dream girl take the lead? Would that make it easier to stay lucid?
>>37831284>I fought with shit, its fun. Doom slayer mode, you can be so strong, god tier. Lower vibrational faggots aint got shit on me.How can I learn this power?
I actually Ap'ed during a nightmare and i saw nothing literally when i detached from my body and after that i saw my dead relatives and it was so creepy.Did i actually succeed in my Ap
is it possible to take a nasty astral shit? there is this one fucking faggot that keeps being some sort of curator / librarian type shit and always pushes me back into my body forcefully i want to shit in his domain and force him to clean it up for free if they attempt again
>>37832537There's astral jannies? wtf?
>>37810267Your new Yoga.
>>37832537lmao
I wonder when you astro project out of body, can the demon getting to your body because there isn't a host present?
>>37833707Silver Cord - Link to spirit and body, difficult to sever.
>>37832537>there is this one fucking faggot that keeps being some sort of curator / librarian type shit and always pushes me back into my body forcefullySo, what did you intend to do that led to those actions?
>>37833116>There's astral jannies? wtf?Yeah, the spirit realms aren't just some wild free-for-all. Anything that can organize chaos into order will try to maintain that order. Humans are not known to be particularly good stewards of their innate gifts and fortunes in that realm.
>>37835992Oh god stop larping you larping shit.>>37832537Sure why not>>37835928Silver cord is made up. It doesn’t been date back very far as larps go. Theosophy.
>>37810690Stop the melatonin, your body says "oh, so I'm getting it anyway? Guess I don't need to produce it anymore, then", and you become dependent on it.
>>37810690Blue lotus. But to desire this from the spirit realm tells me you’re not doing it right and won’t gain that which you seek.
>>37837109I just took 10mg.Awesome.
>>37837743That’s entirely too much. Hopefully you meant 10mcg, which is still an insane dose. Hope you don’t have anything to do tomorrow.
>>37837832NEVERMIND, thinking of something else. Disregard
Man, I just had like 10 lucid dreams back to back after getting full sleep paralysis during a 3 hour nap. Mostly did exploring but there were some parts that felt like an action video game. I fucked some hot purple skinned girl in the ass and the advice from >>37831452 about focusing solely on the pleasure came in handy. The best part too was that even if I woke up, my body would still be in sleep paralysis and I'd just roll out of it and start a new I'd dream. Can anyone tell me how to AP in a lucid dream? I tried saying "I'm going to astral project" and my body got all vibrational amd tingly but I didn't know what to do from there.
>>37837832The melatonin pills i take each night are 5mg. Seems to work fine for me.
>>37803072>Count grains of rice>Find out truly how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop>See if there are actually demons in computer chips
>>37833707You're still present, you just shift your awareness. I check in on my meat suit and listen to it snoring and make sure it's comfortable while I'm doing stuff.
Why do posters keep asking about demons?They do not even know if this works or if demons exist but they ask this sort of stuff.
Are the gateway tapes legit? I only praise for them, but I'm skeptical they can really be as good as advertised.
>>37841364They can have a marginally useful effect by helping you relax. Won’t work for everyone. Just try it if you want to know like everything else. It won’t waste much time.
Last night I was lucid dreaming. I was jumping and gliding around and I went into space in my dream. But my lucidity was flaky at that point and instead of space, the darkness turned into an underground utility corridor with a door at the end. Immediately I became lucid again as I recognized where I was.>this is where it leads to the collective unconscious>bet there's an hotel at the other sideI opened the door and I saw a flight of stairs, and at the top, there was a cinema room. Another staple of the astral.Can we talk about the cinemas? I have often become lucid in one, and they are often like indoctrination spaces where people seem to be watching something mindlessly, like in the Vincenzo Natali movie Cipher. I know the YouTuber Astral Doorway talked about these, too. But, to him, they looked like conference halls.I forgot my trip, but I talked about the spaces of the shared astral here:https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/username/Natural%20obe/>>37838462"Prime" the situation with a door or similar and intend for it to take you outside of your dream space. It takes practice to be able to do this. I'd start by intending to go to your RTS (real time space) in your home.>>37841257Of course they exist. Think more oni and youkai than Catholic demons, but there are spirits of all sorts. Most things you'll encounter in the astral are more akin to distorted, discarnate human consciousnesses than pure spirits such as nature spirits and such.
>>37841691What I’m saying is why would posters who clearly haven’t even looked into any of this worry about “advanced” things.I blame dumb trips like you who LARP the fuck hard.You would just be a trip that LARPs hard but you are so dumb you forgot your trip.Get a new one asap so you can be filtered.
>>37810690For the reasons the other anons stated, you shouldn't take melatonin. You can take, however, a precursor to melatonin, so that your body has plenty if it needs to produce it. Tryptophan. If you have a deficiency and your body doesn't produce melatonin well, this will solve it. If not, it won't do any harm.>>37813171Sounds like a mix between dream and AP. Keep practicing and you'll eventually become better at sorting out what is objective and what you are projecting into the astral yourself. That's the actual difference between dreams and AP, btw. Learn to control your mind and what it projects by meditwting and practicing being in hypnagogia for extended periods.>>37831284"AP glowies" are indeed real. We are so much into the mindset that nothin outside of physicality is real, that once we taste the reality of the non physical, we still carry with us the same mindset, but there are whole universes out there, with beimgs of all sorts who have an objective existence, and to you, who are projecting, it might all seem intangible and ethereal, but there are realms with varying degrees of physicality and even whole other alternate physical universes. But this gets into shifting, afterlife and reincarnation territory. And seeing how some people react to the possibility of AP alone, I don't think there's any rush to get into those.
>>37841696Ii feel like you are running out of time. If you don't sort that shit out, you're going to end up living in a very nasty place for who knows how long.
>>37841364https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHeqcFOSx50
>>37841724What the fuck are you talking about?It sounds like you are making up some more shit now. Looks like you are going down the route of claiming that because I tell a larper he’s a larper I will be in trouble.Larpers who make shit up are the trouble. There is a legit thing to discuss here and making up all the you do is the trouble.
>in before glowies turn up and support the extreme larping to derail.
I have come to believe someone deploys LLM powered bots in certain threads to make people flee them and stifle the flow of ideas.It’s the same style of venomous words spewing out of these posters all throughout this site.That or a genuine pandemic of demonic possession is taking place.
>>37842721>it’s bots>no it’s demonsMake up your mind. The real truth is that some people just don’t agree with you and because you are unable to rationally counter their argument you resort to claiming it’s a conspiracy of bots or demons or glowies.Pretty weak bro.
>>37841719I've been taking melatonin for over 5 years now and I don't have any negative affects from it.
How the fuck this thread is still up
>>37844745Why shouldn't it be?
>>37839150As long as you're willing to keep taking them your whole life.
You're now walking and you can't identify where you are. But you're running fast.
>>37846420I don't need them to fall asleep. Maybe you're just weak.
