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I wish there was actual BG3 game like previous two, not this gay slop that got shat out
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>>3474945
define gay slop
If you can't enjoy a vidya without getting triggered by its themes then you're a sensitive faggot and need to off yourself.

>t. someone who has not played through BG3
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>>3474945
it's better than either of the other ones, cope and seethe chud
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>>3474945
I too would love for bg3 to be real-time chaotic mess where meele character playstyle is nothing more than clicking on the enemy once. I would also love for it to take place on the other side of the continent from Baldurs Gate. I would also love Jaheira to try jumping on my dick right after her husband got tortured to death because I was nice to her.
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>>3474955
It sure is saar, have a rupee get youself toilet paper
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>imma fuck yo bitch
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>filtered by faggots
lmao
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>>3474975
Candy ass.
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>>3474982
Roody-poo.
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>>3474945
I just wish BG3 was good.
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>>3474961
i though bg3 was owned by china or something? i cant keep up with these anti-shill scripts
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>>3474945
Yeah, same. Not sure why a Baldur's Gate game needs to have fully modelled dicks in it.
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>>3474945
>I wish there was actual BG3 game like previous two
lol
good riddance to the bad trash that is infinity engine and RTWP
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>>3474945
1. In terms of the story and plot, the series was wrapped up and concluded with ToB. Time to move on and make a new series instead of milking the name. I love bg 1 and 2 but let them die and rest in peace.

2. In terms of their ideas for BG3 a lot got rolled into MotB.

3. In terms of gameplay styles, go play PoE and the Pathfinder games, they’re BG clones. No, they’re not as good, but that’s the way she goes, bubs.
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>>3474945
And I wish party based Dungeon crawlers would make a respectable come back that is not the current drpg anime slop being created these days. We however rarely get what we want because the masses have terrible testes.
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I'm tired of people pretending to like RTWP
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>>3476235
>I'm tired of people pretending to like RTWP
Not OP, but I like BG1 and 2 in spite of them being RTWP, not because of it. Turn based is superior.
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>>3476239
oh I agree with you on that. I don't dislike them, but I wish RTWP had never been a thing
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>>3474945
Just play Pathfinder then.
Baldur's Gate 3 is great as it is, Larian perfected turn based gameplay, they dont need to make RTWP, thats not their forte.

Maybe go bitch for Bioware instead of crying about an actual good game made an actual good passionate dev, but who are we kidding, you just want to bait, bitch and moan, lol.
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>>3475988
>they’re not as good,
How? can you explain how they are not as good?
Explain with facts and logic.
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>>3475988
>In terms of the story and plot, the series was wrapped up and concluded with ToB.
This is just such a stupid reasoning. Are you telling me that nothing bad could ever happen to the city of Baldur's Gate ever again? There can never be any more interesting conflicts to explore on the Sword Coast. Sounds like a bunch of "media literacy" hogwash to me
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>>3476265
>This is just such a stupid reasoning. Are you telling me that nothing bad could ever happen to the city of Baldur's Gate ever again? There can never be any more interesting conflicts to explore on the Sword Coast.
The DnD campaign setting of the Forgotten Realms, which contains the Sword Coast, which contains the eponymous city of Baldur's Gate, existed before the game series "Baldur's Gate", and it would be perfectly reasonable to produce new DnD games that use the setting of the Sword Coast, which includes the city of Baldur's Gate. Actually please don't, everything about (((nu-DnD))) is shit, fuck WotC This has nothing to do with the game series "Baldur's Gate", which is what the post you're responding to was clearly referring to (note the usage of the term 'series' not 'campaign setting'). The name of the game series, "Baldur's Gate", is being cynically milked dry for marketing purposes and brand recognition, and they should have some fucking integrity and creativity and come up with something new instead of riding quarter century old coattails.
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This is an excellent way to make sure everything you like stays dead and irrelevant.
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>>3476328
God, I wish everything I liked stayed dead and irrelevant. Instead I have to deal with most of it shambling along as zombies with none of what made them good in the first play.
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>>3474945
I like all three Baldur's Gate games :)
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>>3475980
Same energy
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>>3476350
You have it backwards, there were plenty of cargo cultists that hated on BG3 for being turn based, instead of RTWP, despite BG1 and 2 being, obviously, adapted from turn-based DnD 2nd edition. I was extremely disappointed with BG3 and thought it was a crappy game, but being turn-based was one of its strengths, not one of its flaws, imo.
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>>3476329
Same.
>oh, you like X too?
>unending torrent of nuslop, retcons and casualisation
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>>3476350
>super complicated skill system
Competency crisis is going to demolish the world as we know it.
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>>3476259
I didn't play them as a kid, making them objectively worse OBJECTIVELY.
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>>3476302
>The brand name helped them market the game and make more money, but they shouldn't do that because it....ummm it makes me feel bad
Yeah, they should be retarded and have no business sense, great idea. Who gives a fuck about the integrity of the brand. Good let them use it. What a dumb thing to care about
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>>3474945
>she thinks that BG1 and 2 weren’t gay libshit too
Oy vey zoomie
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>>3476381
>I know full well why he finds the practice objectionable but I will pretend its about feelings instead
So when are you pitching your business idea of abducting people and turning them into onions green to the corps? It's going to make insane profits, after all.
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>>3476355
No, you have it backwards.
You also have your underpants so backwards you wear them on your head.

Stop trying to derail this by turning it into a TB vs RTP discussion you subhuman.

>>3476369
None of would have expected that after watching Idiocracy we would live long enough to witness it become a reality.
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>>3476398
So if it's not about feefees than I genuinely don't get his objection. Is it the "creativity" shit he was talking about? Overemphasis on doing everything new and innovative is just garbage, so I don't agree with that. And if it's not that and something else he'll just have to explain himself better. I can't read his mind
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why the fuck Shar herself, one of the MAJOR deities in the setting, not even some small shit like an Archfey or whatever but motherfucking Shar appears with her avatar to Jennifer the Halfelven just to get BTFO by mortals and go back like a bitch??

whats even so special about Shadowheart for literal deities to get involved personally. even tho FR is infamous for retarded divine activity, this is too rare and big thing to happen randomly to Shadowheart.
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also when did we go from "Kill the drow!" on sight to half of the population of Sword Coast is now drow in 100 years?
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>>3474945
Me too. I'd have really liked to see a genuine sequel done with modern technology and a lot of resources, instead we got a pile of shit with an entirely different game concept.
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>>3476467
>also when did we go from "Kill the drow!" on sight to half of the population of Sword Coast is now drow in 100 years?
Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.
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>>3476467
I remember people in the game being generally hostile to drow, and I don't remember there being that many. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but it sounds like you're exaggerating
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>>3476492
Viconia was going to get lynched if you don't intervene in BG2. Did you ever feel like getting lynched when playing a drow in BG3?
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>>3476501
They obviously toned it down somewhat, which they shouldn't have. Still a long shot from "half the population is Drow now"
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>>3476505
WE WUZ TETHYRIANS
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>>3476489
Wrong tree, they're the noble savages who invariably turn out right if given a chance to live in a civilized society fantasy trope.
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>>3474945
There was. It was called Throne of Bhaal according to the original devs, and was the end of their trilogy, way before Larian was popular.
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>>3476355
Speaking of cargo cult, you seem to have no clue what you're talking about. Turn-based rules in table top were always considered a necessary evil to streamline the game where a CPU fixes this issue easily. Furthermore, AD&D 2e had a far more complex turn order system where speed and initiative segments played a role. Essentially it was emulating real time combat in turns. The designers of 3e explicitly made the decision to ditch any attempt to simulate real time because it was too complicated (for table top play). The familiar style of turn-based was just the simplest way to accept the flaw of turn taking to keep the game moving. The cargo cult mentality is to masturbate over this sort of rules paraphernalia along with rolling physical dice, rather than focus on leveraging computers to patch those flaws in the table top experience. You'll find that BG3 is plenty guilty of that sort of masturbation and pandering. Also look to what game designer Chris Crawford has noted about real-time resolution as an ideal versus turn-based.
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>>3476265
BG1 and 2 were linked, so it's a specific series. By name, BG3 would have to continue that concluded series.
This isn't like Neverwinter Nights where the two games were separate stories. You could have an NWN3 with no issue.
There were already other Baldur's Gate games. The Dark Alliance series. By dropping the number, it meant it was its own separate thing. See, they already realised way back then that it would cause problems because BG1, 2 and ToB were a trilogy about the bhaalspawn.

To help you relate, would you like it if Harry Potter 8 was set 150 years in the past and was about some victorian-era chimneysweeper?
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>>3476921
>it would cause problems because BG1, 2 and ToB
I remember hearing it was because they still used the same engine which was outdated and restricting already. Not to mention IWD games, so it was getting stale.

If they had a new engine, features, graphics, they probably would have called it fucking Baldur's Gate 3.
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>>3476911
I think the Pathfinder games did the turn based combat better. I want to be able to switch to real time at any point. In BG3 just clearing a small dungeon takes 2 hours. Thats why the game seems to be long, the story is not that long actually, the fucking combat takes too much time. Whats the point of a turn based combat where after the first half of the game you one shot most enemies?
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>>3476936
The engine doesn't matter in this. Its the story. Bg1 and 2 were two chapters of the same story. I guess you can say playing as Dark Urge is the canon continuation as BG3
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>>3477048
They don't put it in for mechanical or gameplay reasons. They put it in for aesthetic reasons, wasting time on one shots isn't something they think about.
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>>3474945
BG3 is to BG2 what BG2 was to BG1. Reminder that BG2 starts in Irenicus' rape dungeon. Imoen is rather clear about it.
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>>3477052
So the devs dont think about gameplay? wtf
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>>3477055
Not as much as people assume. There are no good gameplay reasons for showing the dice being rolled, for example. It's all about geek fandom masturbation.
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>>3477057
they should have just gone meta and have the old companions sit down together to play a game of dnd, and then you play in the story. that way dice is okay and you can other fan service shit too.
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>>3476921
>would you like it if Harry Potter 8 was set 150 years in the past and was about some victorian-era chimneysweeper?
Most of the fans would not because they are retarded, but I would because it would be interesting and I have good taste. That genuinely sounds like an intriguing move, and it would make me curious enough to check out the book and see where they go with it
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>>3477236
Also, if in your example this "chimneysweeper" is literally just that and has no reference to magic or Hogwarts than it would be a stupid analogy with manipulative framing, since the difference between BG1+2, on one side, and BG3 on the other is not THAT stark. If you're asking if I, as a hypothetical Harry Potter Fan, would like to read a new book about different magic users going to the same school, then obviously why wouldn't I? If the original story is basically concluded, why not write some new ones? Obviously in the case of the Potter series you would have to change the name due to different character, but in the BG series as long as the city is involved you can keep the name
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>>3477241
Also, it seems like your whole argument now boils down to nothing but the NAME they chose. Like who gives a shit, so they chose a name that helped them get attention and sell more games, good for them. But oh no, they broke some sacred rule against creativity that exists only in your mind because they chose the wrong name for their game. Very stupid thing to actually care about
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>>3474945
it's better than the previous 2 simply cuz it's turn based
dilate
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>>3474945
>zoom zoom baby can't handle turn based combat
You are the reason bioslop ruined RPG in early 2000s.
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>>3474956
>I would also love Jaheira to try jumping on my dick right after her husband got tortured to death because I was nice to her.
Iirc that was the timer not working the way the writer assumed it would, or something. Either way it wouldn't even be a bad thing if the game at least allowed you to point out that she has a really shitty way of coping and perhaps turn her down until she snaps out of it.
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>>3474945
You would want it to have a japanese ninja joining you in the begining? Or a black ranger? Or a noble sjw girl owning a castle? Or Keldorn's quest being about him being literaly cucked? Edwin becoming a woman? Haer'Dalis cucking you? Jan Jansen and Minsc being le random? Anomen being a bland diversity hire that only existed so female characters can have someone to romance?
If Baldurs Gate 2 came out today you would fucking hate it.
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>>3477331

There are mods for BG3 removing the entirety of pozzed/neomarxist bullshit in characters as well as romances. They are the only reason I started this game in the first place.
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A game more in the sense of Pillars of Eternity would have been nice.
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>>3474945
not gonna lie, I'm filtered, bg3 has the ugliest art style ever made and next one is elder scrolls oblivion
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>>3477438
>pozzed/neomarxist bullshit in characters
Like?
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>>3478225
Black people existing in medieval Europe.
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>>3478230
>brown people think Faerûn is in Europe
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>>3478225
All the women fighters, good demons and gay sex.
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>>3478243
We’ve been over this dozens of times and I don’t feel like going through the whole song and dance, but I’ll point out:

1. The infinity engine games have a handful of non-white characters who are juxtaposed with not-Europe, and, as such, are rare and exotic and stand out precisely because they’re different, foreign, and strange. This is fundamentally different from bg3 having the racial diversity of (((modern London))) where wholesale amounts of humans, elves, dwarves, halflings, etc, are now race-swapped to be black for ESG dollars and diversity points.

2. You, in conflating “here’s one or two characters who’s the color of a paper bag” with “now hundreds of NPCs are now black from the deepest darkest heart of the Congo” makes you, ironically, far more racist and less nuanced than the people who object to this blatantly pandering and unrealistic approach that disrespects the source material, the lore, suspension of disbelief, versimilitide, and common sense.
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>>3474956
I too would love to have some more of the inconsistent writing, such as a supposedly good character considering murder as a solution to a family dispute, or another supposedly good character praising a neat idea of magically depriving people of their will to make them into obedient slaves, or such as a character unwilling to enter a magical sphere to the point of murdering agents of one of the most powerful institutions in the city-state and becoming a wanted criminal in hiding for life just to casually agree to go into the sphere if the MC kinda wants to or whatever, sure let's go
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>>3476350
what's that from?
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>>3476350
grim
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>>3478650
Bioware Forums.
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>>3478243
>>brown people think Faerûn is in Europe
Now listen here you illiterate nigger:

Go check out the "Villains' Lorebook" for AD&D.
And then check out the "Heroes Lorebook" for AD&D
And then tell me how many black people you have found in them.

I'll wait.
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>>3478547
>not-Europe
DnD was always "Europe" as seen by americans. You have to be the muttiest mutt who ever engorged himself on galons of corn syrup to think that it was ever anything but that. It was made by americans predomidly for americans. It's not Europe, it's essentially pseudo-medieval USA. And guess fucking what, americans always had negroes and now they aren't even majority white.
>makes you, ironically, far more racist
Nothing ironic about my racism. Keep whining about ebil brown pepoo in your vidya while jamal and pablo splitroast your mum you fucking subhuman, ethnically confused retard.
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>>3478836
>confusing DnD with the Forgotten Realms campaign setting
Stopped reading there
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>>3478910
Which is one of settings for DnD. Your point? Also how many black characters could bg 1 and 2 even have given how maybe around dozen of them even have portraits. Bg1 had Dynaheir, bg2 Valygar and Yoshimo. Is this really ratio that different than one in bg3?
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>>3478923
Yoshimo as in non-white. He is of course not a black ninja.
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>>3477331
>You would want it to have a japanese ninja joining you in the begining?
Yoshimo is cool, but kinda clashed with the setting. Guess they had to target the weebs.
>Or a black ranger?
Valygar's race has no bearing other than aesthetically. Imagine seething because there's one black character in the whole game and not only his race doesn't play a role in anything but it never gets mentioned even once.
>Or a noble sjw girl owning a castle?
Who is treated as naive and out of touch. Also as a bit of a hypocrite.
>Or Keldorn's quest being about him being literaly cucked?
Keldorn's quest is about impossible choices, duty or family.
>Edwin becoming a woman?
Which is treated as a joke. Even his ending says it was a curse.
>Haer'Dalis cucking you?
Never took him with me, so I dunno about that. He elopes with the winged wingless elf or something, I beleive.
>Jan Jansen and Minsc being le random?
Le random quirky humour was not as stale and overused back in the day. Personally I never liked it much and never understood the obsession with Mincs, but that's beyond the point.
>Anomen being a bland diversity hire that only existed so female characters can have someone to romance?
Female pcs got the short end of the stick with Anomen. I'm not adverse to romances but I hated how they were forced on the player, rather that something you could activate or pursue.
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>>3478923
>he hasn't actually played BG3
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>>3478936
>Valygar's race has no bearing other than aesthetically.
Just like all the black guys in bg3?
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>>3478940
I don't know, I haven't played BG3. Mind you, blackwashing Faerun is retarded, but seething over a single black guy is equally so.
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>>3474945
BG3 is a masterpiece, one of the best RPGs ever made.
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>>3475988
There is already a series of games called Baldurs Gate that has nothing to do with bg1 or bg2. Just like NVN games had all the fuck to do with each other. It's a name of a place, that's it. And unlike Baldurs gate 2 this one actualy takes place there
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>There is already a series of games called Baldurs Gate that has nothing to do with bg1 or bg2
Yeah, a spin-off series that had nothing to do with it, it was just milking the name.
>Just like NVN games had all the fuck to do with each other
Same principle. NWN2 had nothing to do with NWN1, was just milking the name because it was popular. Just like NWN1 was re-using the name from the early 90s game.
>It's a name of a place, that's it
Look at your own picrel, they used the font from the BG1 logo because they're using the name for marketing and branding purposes.
>And unlike Baldurs gate 2 this one actualy takes place there
BG2 was named BG2 because it was a direct continuation of the plot and characters from BG1, not because it takes place in the city of Baldur's Gate.

Every day, this board astounds me with its density.
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>>3479063
>BG2 was named BG2 because it was a direct continuation of the plot and characters from BG1, not because it takes place in the city of Baldur's Gate.
Then they picked some really dumb name, didn't they? It's like if they called Fallout "California".
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>>3478997
>I don't know, I haven't played BG3. Mind you, blackwashing Faerun is retarded, but seething over a single black guy is equally so.
So let me get this straight (may be conflating your posts with other anon(s) here, forgive me if I am mistaken)
1. You haven't played BG3, yet you jump in the middle of an argument about it, taking the side of those defending it, while simultaneously agreeing with the point of those criticizing it
2. You throw in a "but both sides bad" strawman argument that not only has no one raised, but has been specifically argued against in this very thread
3. "I'm not an SJW but those anti-SJWs are even worse than those SJWs am I rite"
What's your endgame here?
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>>3479291
>sjw
That's a word i didn't seen in ages. What's even so sjw about the game? That it has racial makeup of US while being made in US? Are there any secret tranny cock reveals or something?
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>>3479302
It's actually such a radical departure from both previous Larian games, and the game's own early access circa ~3.5 years ago, that the only logical explanation I can think of is that some combination of Larian, WotC, or Hasbro, took big amounts of (((ESG dollars))) and Larian was ordered to stuff the game full of it. I was honestly quite shocked, and before the game came out, I was looking forward to it and expecting it to be good.
>cities now have racial heterogeneity of a (((modern metropolis)))
>dwarves, elves, halflings, etc all race-swapped, of course underdark races like drow, duergar, deep gnomes are all mysteriously 100% homogeneous
>devs, using telemetry data, chided players for making white male humans during development, changed default human to a black female barbarian with 8 INT
>yes, non-binary feminine penises for self-inserting your mental illness into the game
>vitiligo slider added because of course
>tranny youtuber hired to play a tranny character
>drag queen works at a carnival to have access to children (he's also a necromancer, of course)
>constant theme of "le poor innocent migrant refugees", you're a xenophobic bigot if you don't want them in your house, even if they're literally devils with horns and red eyes and they're all greedy thieves too
>if you innocently remark that a deep gnome on the surface is far from home, he spergs out about how ignorant you are for assuming that he's not allowed to live in muh city
>game lectures you with communist squirrels about redistributing the food and if you object you're "speciesist"
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>>3479316
>black female barbarian with 8 INT
Based
>yes, non-binary feminine penises
I can play as a futa? Just like in my favorite hentai!
>vitiligo slider added because of course
Is that even a real sjw cause? It just sounds like an easy way to make messed up half-orcs and tieflings.
>drag queen works at a carnival to have access to children (he's also a necromancer, of course)
No way, carnies being weird anx creppy sex pests?! What will they think of next!
>constant theme of "le poor innocent migrant refugees", you're a xenophobic bigot if you don't want them in your house, even if they're literally devils with horns and red eyes and they're all greedy thieves too
Nigger, they are tieflings that are moving from one city to another and are pestered by shit-flinging goblins.
>game lectures you with communist squirrels about redistributing the food and if you object you're "speciesist"
You are triggered by talking squirrels. How fucking autistic are you?
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>>3479316
Drag queen at the circus is funny though. Circuses are supposed to be full of freaks
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>>3479336
>>3479329
British gay language polari started as a language of circus workers. Carnies were always weirdos and fringes of society. Hell, this is where you would go to see bearded ladies and shit. But I guess chuds got buckbroken by trannies so hard that they now need trigger warnings.
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>>3479302
>that it has racial makeup of US while being made in US?
The difference is that the US has actual "lore" reasons (or "history" as normal people call it) for there being a lot of black people. It isn't just that way mysteriously and for no reason. Black people were brought here as slaves. If this was a video game that would be an interesting setting. Yet, in the game made in the US, black people being evenly mixed into the populace is just a state of affairs with no lore explanation granting it plausibility. So if Americans want to make games that reflect their own society they should also draw on their own history. Why are there so many blacks all over the Sword Coast? Were they also brought as slaves? I would be cool with that, even if it's a bit on the nose as far as drawing on real world history. Any explanation will be better than none. And, I'm not the anon you are arguing with, so I don't thing BG3 is a bad game at all. It's a great one, in fact, but the diversity quota shit is tacky. It contributes to making the world feel lacking in context and completely flavorless
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>>3479341
Larian is B*lgian, anon.
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>>3477053
Oh hey rapesperg is back.
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>>3479369
Yes, misspoke. I was referring to the DnD setting, since DnD is an American development, by and large
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>>3479291
>1
No, I just said that the woke shit on BG2 is overblown. At most I jumped in defending a game I've played several times.
>2
Extreme positions, no matter on which side, are usually bad, yes.
>3. What's your endgame here here?
To point out that while pushing woke propaganda in media is bad, not every black or female character that exist are woke propaganda and that perhaps one should analize games in this regard with nuance and in context. In this case, BG2 was not propaganda pushing in any way, as pointed out by ellaborating on the stuff the other anon (you, perhaps?) mentioned.
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>>3479379
Your denial just proves my point.

>Imoen: I used to dream…but he doesn’t. Your charms don’t work on him anymore, do they?
>Ulene: How do you know of this? He has touched you as we, hasn’t he? Irenicus searches for something he cannot find, and he looks within those that have no more idea than he.

Most fans are simply in denial because the game was too crass for its time and they were too young.
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>>3476350
kek
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>>3479048
>>3479063
Except they could have done all that but not done this: "remember minsc guys? remember boo? hee hee hoo haa haa so funny, so iconic, right guys? right guys?"
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>>3479384
Ed Greenwood is Canadian, but I digress. After Greenwood gave TSR his Forgotten Realms they further expanded it to make it multicultural, the lore for parts of the realms is literally that ancient Egyptians were kidnapped and enslaved but broke free and the overgod Ao invited the Egyptian gods over that ruled their freed slave people as god kings. Thay was just a magic user rebellion of the same African/middle-eastern folk that now shaved their heads, but up until the latest edition it was pretty much hereditary. You can't just join the Red Wizards as a non-human or non middle easterner.
Now, when you look at a map you will notice that from Baldur's Gate, Thay, Mulhorrand, and Rasheman are way further than anywhere up or down along the western coastline, which includes Calimshan which is the other middle eastern themed area and Chult which is the other African area. Then you've got this other place up north called the Anauroch desert which is also somewhat middle eastern and north African themed.
Given the way the realms are set up is a total clusterfuck, if you accept the mess of fantasy history and geography, then it is expected you see different sorts of people.
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real time with pause is so much better, FUCK bg3, yeah i said it. its not the fucking same
rtwp i queue up commands and then watch my dudes annihilate some orcs, they go to fucking work and it looks cool. turn based isnt the same visceral experience at all.
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>>3479341
>"lore" reasons (or "history" as normal people call it
Lore can include more than just history, like customs, legends, songs and poems, meanings of people or place names. You know, folklore. Your blind retarded hateboner for the word that's been raging for what, at least a year now, doesn't magically change facts.
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>>3474945
there was going to be, but it wasnt going to be like the first two; it was going to be a low/mid levels game set in the dalelands
pillars of eternity is loosely based on it, so if thats anything to go by it was going to be shit

PERSONALLY, I wish bg2 stayed to mid and lower-high levels, leaving a bg3 for high and low-epic level plane/portal hopping.
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>>3474945
I HATE NEW BAGUGAYT
TRANNY GLOBOHOMO
I HATE NEW BAJDUJ GEYT
GAY BEAR FUCKING
I HATE NEW BARDUPEJT
FROG MEAN
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Shadowfeet
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>>3480449
This but unironically
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>>3480449
based
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RTWHRT lost.
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>>3481242
>not HRTWP
You are this stupid
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>>3474945
Never played any Baldurs title (earlier titles due to thinking name was stupid, and newest title due to faggotry), but I was thinking about the widely seen beastiality faggotry part of the game, and was thinking why not have hetero beastiality? As in why does it have to be also faggotry? Fucking a female bear not edgy enough? Or a male bear fucking a woman not depraved enough? Why does it have to be bear dick in human anus? It's the grossest human-bear beastiality combo possible. How minor percent of population does it appeals to? Faggots are only a few percent of population, and furries are only a few percent of faggots, so it was basicly only appeal to fraction of a percent of the population, most of whom are not gamers, nor would be interested in this fantasy title regardless of this specific depravity. A guy fucking a female bear would be at least funny for hetero males, whom are the majority of gamer base, and still degenerate enough to gain viral media attention just for that scene. Is this game just money laundering, and general asocial demoralisation propaganda, promoted by jews again? USA Federal Reserve prints a bunch of dollars without any physical backing, hands it out to jewish investment group Blackrock, whom can hand it out freely, without supervision, and they chose to give to their coethnics, under esg theme they intentionally promote this type of content to decay society with, while also generatic global inflation, with pumping unbacked money into the economy. Your food is more expensive, just so jews can give each other money, with an excuse to show gay beastiality to everyone. Can't even have the lamer titles of fantasy left alone by male on male poopdick enthusiast degenerate jews.
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>>3481242
>>3481265
They're both funny desu.
>Real time with hormone replacement therapy
>Hormone replacement therapy with pause
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>>3478644
The point is that the characters are more than just their alignment and their choices/your influence can actually shift it in some cases. That's called character development.
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>>3482927
>Never played any Baldurs title
Stopped reading there, why are you even commenting pages in a thread like this, then?
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>>3485965
Because he is brown and angry.
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>>3474945
careful anon, you're going to upset the salesfaggots who don't play video games
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>>3486047
Wait until they actually finish the game entire board gonna be a shitfest trying to convince your dick that game is good
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>>3474945
the target audience shifted, that is all. now adhd zoomers instead of book readers are being catered. bg2 was also "progressive", but in a more grounded and sophisticated way.
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>>3486210
Oh yes, I bet the shift to turn based combat was made to please the adhd zoomers you fucking retard.
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>>3478742
>AD&D
I am sorry for your condition anon. Maybe some ritalin will help you
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>>3486252
There is no cure for being an ancient fossil.
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>>3486252
>>3486299
I'm not even him but you're turbofaggots.
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>>3486242
a simplified version of d&d 5, yes. but you agree on the declining narrative, i see.
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>>3488494
>declining narrative
Had you played the previous games? Baldurs gate never had great plot.
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>>3486210
i wish they could fuck off to some different hobby
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>>3488624
Companies are going to make games that sell. Maybe if you were big enough of a demographics someone would make a game for you as well? Maybe you could make it and reap all that sweet /pol/bucks? They do have disposable income given how much money they throw at podcasts run by latinos.
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>>3488634
underrail was doing just fine
until steam caved to kikes and blocked russia
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>>3479414
Ok rapesperg
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>>3486252
>>3486299
Listen we already knew you were too dumb to read, you dont need to prove it to us.
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>>3474956
>I too would love for bg3 to be real-time chaotic mess where meele character playstyle is nothing more than clicking on the enemy once
it do be lke that in bg3 doe
>I would also love Jaheira to try jumping on my dick right after her husband got tortured to death because I was nice to her.
it do be like that in bg3 doe (but with other characters obv)
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>>3488634
>Maybe you could make it and reap all that sweet /pol/bucks?
What if he doesn't want another extreme and just wants to go back? What if he is just a regular nerd from 30 years ago?
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What's is called when a game's dialogue assumes you did something you didn't? When this game released, I remember playing Act 1 and there was some dialogue about Halsin that really threw me for a loop.

Is it lack of reactivity?

I'm sorry I don't really have a good example. I only played for 30 hours at launch and can't remember anything. I do remember it bothering me a lot though since this game was hyped up as "reacting to every choice and action you make!!!"
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aren't those pathfinder games basically what bg3 should have been? haven't played them but they look the same except i guess they couldn't get the ad&d license so had to use whatever off-brand rules it is
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>>3489800
pathfinder games are much more "woke" than bg3, and have shittier gameplay. they're very mid games with soulless writing and characters
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>>3489842
>pathfinder games are much more "woke" than bg3
Stopped reading there. It’s obvious you haven’t played either.
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>>3489842
if you ever played pen and paper ad&d back in the day, then pathfinder shit is soul af. takes me back to being a kid at my parents house wasting the long summer days reading the 2nd edition players handbook, dungeon masters guide, monster manual, and my older sister's bf even kicked me down a 1st edition fiend folio, zoomer bugs raised on consoles don't know about that!
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>>3490044
I wasn't talking about the pathfinder system, but the video games made by owlcat which utilize it. And yes I have played table top "back in the day". Specifically 3 and 3.5. Never played anything past that (on table top)
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>>3475882
Well you obviously should since it's your "job" and seems to bother you.
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>>3489796
In "second" playthrough I didn't rest all that often. The result of that was that at least a couple of times during the camp night events where it seemed to me like my companions were ignoring some key information that would make them act differently. One example was Lae'zel. There is an event where she gets impatient and wants to kill everyone and then herself because she thinks you are running out of time and will turn into a mindflyer any second. Now the moment at which the event played for me was when we already knew quite a lot about the true souls, the parasites in our heads being different, the artifact protecting us, we met some true souls, the interaction where Ragzlin tries to extract information from a mindflyer corpse seems to point to them not being aligned etc. Despite that the game didn't bother changing up her dialouge in any way or even letting me remind her of any of those things or use them to convince her to put her weapon down. In a real tabletop session telling her those things would probably lead to the DM giving me advantage on my roll.
Now this isn't that big of a deal but when the game clearly tries to be as reacitve as possible this kind of thing stands out. I kinda wonder how reacitve the game truly is if you go out of your way to do the things "out of order".
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>>3474945
I will never understand this cope from Bioware slop enjoyers. BG2 was at least as degenerate for its time as BG3 was for the current era. But beyond that, BG2 is OBJECTIVELY a worse game and a worse RPG in every sense.

Literally the only thing that BG2 has that BG3 doesn't is
>more disproportionately overpowered casters vs martial classes
>Jon Irenicus 's voice actor, the character is actually trash, if you gave him a proper emasculated elf voice and changed the tone a bit, no one would like him
>sisterfucking bait (a positive for Bioware enjoyers only)
>a virgin romance option for men (but Larian was contractually obligated to make all the romance options whores in BG3 so it's not their fault)
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>>3490182
>Literally the only thing that BG2 has that BG3 doesn't is
Popping my cherry when I was young. Other games may be better, but BG2 showed me the world.
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Is there a mod that lets you gain infinite inspiration points or use them in combat? I'm tired as fuck of getting +4 inspiration when maxxed out already.
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>>3490182
Jon Irenicus has the coolest sprite out of all 2D/isometric main villains, change my mind.
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>>3490245
the villains always do
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>>3490190
Yeah, there's a mod that uncaps it so you can store up as many as you like.
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>>3476350
This makes me angry, and I'm a zoomer
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>>3490182
Combat in BG2 is superior, don't wanna spend 15mn to kill a pack of goblins or wolves
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>>3490274
Skill issue
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Aeriechads won.
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>>3490418
based Aerie lover
shes mine tho
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>a virgin romance option for men
Shadowheart, if only technically.
As she had her mind wiped out anything she does is new from her perspective, so in her mind you are her first lover, without baggage of ex friends with benefits.
>physical wear and tear
Nothing that cure wounds spell won't fix.
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>>3490446
>Shadowheart, if only technically.
Did you even play the game?
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>>3474949
>define gay slop
Does the game let you have sex with animals?
Is the most heterosexually appealing woman also a whore?
Are the tough warrior classes all women?
Is everyone bisexual?
Does the game punish you for rightfully expelling ungrateful tieflings from the grove?
Is there a zesty amount of black dykey women in Baldur's Gate?
Was Wyll interesting in the beta just to be dumbed down into an inoffensive nice black guy cliche?

>Yes×7

All the game needs is a fully rendered scene of Wyll's nobility father eating twink shit for it to be gayslop of the decade.
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I have no intention of playing BG3, but I don't get this bear controversy.
In Skyrim (13 years ago, fuck) there was always the homo romance option, we just ignored it and played the rest of the game. I don't see the difference with this BG3 scenario unless you have to romance said bear. I guess it's just so memeable that it sticks with people.
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>>3490458
its literal Soros sponsored propaganda
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>>3490461
>I don't get this bear controversy.
1. paid Pajeets were spamming it every single day en masse so it become completly organic and not forced epic meme xD zoomers gonna eat that shit anyway
2. if zoophilia in games is okay why pedophilia is not?
one of devs was furry pedo that is into "cubs", check it out on /b.
there were leaked screenshots how "halflings" and "orcs" are having sex. obviously they never meant anything behind that
all that shit have been tried to be erased and turn into "le trolling" again by cheap pajeet shits
game mady by pedos for cretins, enjoy
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Baldur's Gate 3 >> Baldur's Gate 2 >> Baldur's Gate

And none of them deserve to be in top 10 RPGs, but most cowards will put BG2 there even if they liked BG3 more.
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>>3490590
Kek keep dreaming nigger
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>>3489795
The anon you're replying to is a leftist.
He doesnt understand that its normal people that are tied of wokeshit.
In his mind "You dont like woke = Nazi"
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>>3489796
I would say its just buggy.
But I know what you are talking about.
There dialogue/Journal-flags seems such a buggy mess that at certain places it becomes a mess at the game just refers to dialogues you didnt have and shit you didnt do.
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>>3490182
>sisterfucking bait
BG3 has daughterfucking bait.
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>>3490458
>Does the game let you have sex with animals?
No? Druid can change into a bear, that's it. If that constitutes bestiality, trannies are 100% true and honest women.
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>BG2 was at least as degenerate for its time as BG3 was for the current era. But beyond that, BG2 is OBJECTIVELY a worse game and a worse RPG in every sense.
Oh hey its this guy again.
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>>3474956
>where meele character playstyle is nothing more than clicking on the enemy once.
Whereas in bg3 you click two times! Whooaaaaa
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>>3490636
At least I can maneuver, take cover, use different strikes and plan out the battle. Real time with pause was a fail attempt at pandering to the diablo demographic.
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>i specifically sought to do gay shit in a video game and it let me therefore the game is offensive to me
Another closeted homosexual. Many such cases.
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>>3490461
Game forces you to fuck the bear. You aren't given an option.
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>>3490640
I went to a truck stops bathroom and when I pressed my mouth against a hole in the wall a cock came out. We cannot live like this. The west has fallen.
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>>3490458
>Does the game let you have sex with animals?
Sadly no, the only game that i know of who does it is Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura.
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>>3490654
Not surprising. Racist trash literally made by jews and homosexuals.
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>>3490600
Seethe more, Biodrone slop enjoyer.
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>>3490628
>Oh hey its this guy again.
No it isn't, that was my first post ITT, but it's typical for soulless husks to recognize me as their nemesis.
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>>3490648
Did the hole hypnotically make you suck the cock clean, sliding your tongue under the foreskin and swallowing the load? That hole has a gay agenda and I hate it.
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>>3490662
>made by jews
>has the [echo]Gnomish[/echo] conspiracy quest
Leonard Boyarsky is based although he probably meant is ironically, just like the Deus Ex devs were using the conspiracy theories "ironically"
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>>3490675
I shouldn't have to live in a world where I'm tempted by penises everywhere! Something has to be done!
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Planescape: Torment is the only truly ageless Infinity Engine game that I can still bring myself to replay. Overrated dogshit engine, all its faults that Planescape: Torment's combat "sucked" (was slightly worse than BG2, and a lot worse than Icewind Dale's but that doesn't matter).
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>>3490679
>frankensteins wacky adventure in nonsenseland
>good
Westoids have no soul.
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>>3490466
>if zoophilia in games is okay why pedophilia is not?
Jrpg are already a thing.
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>>3474945
BG1 and 2 is the goyslop and you're throwing a tantrum because your hugbox got taken away.
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>>3490625
>when your voice actor is such a coombrained tranny he repulses other autogynephiles
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>>3474955
this, simply due to the fact it's turn based
fuck real tiem with pause aids
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>>3491217
I also agree with both of you.
Turn-based is just the best formula to design RPG combat.
RTWP is decent but the problem is that its an obvious inferior imitation of RTS gameplay.
Action RPG is good but to make it you have to make concession around actual RPG mechanics in favor of skill based and reflexes, take the Souls trilogy for example, they do have good action rpg combat system but that comes at the expense of rpg mechanics and other gameplay aspects.
So you again face the same issue, being inferior to actual action games.

Both RTWP and Action system are fine, but they are clearly very flawed systems for RPGs, the only one that can work without much flaws is the turn based one where it compliments all RPG design choices that you can think of.
There is also shooters which can work in FPS simply because shooting isn't super complicated to implement.

For RPGs gameplay
Turn-based > Shooter > RTWP > Action (third person)
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>>3491220
being turn-based isn't even remotely enough to make bg3 a good game
bg3 is everything thats wrong with modern gaming
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>>3491228
ok
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>>3491228
You people are so hilariously dramatic
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>>3491220
You have no idea what you are talking about. I suggest that you go back and read through how RPG design evolved, how action resolution evolved, and the concession that was made for turn-based resolution. To claim that the ideal they always strived for is the flawed system and not the system they settled for is simply ignorance of the facts. You favor it because you're being a hipster and mistaking the rules paraphernalia for something inherently important.
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>>3491234
uh that actually sounds sort of interesting to my autism where do i actually read abt this shit
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>>3491234
>this is what biodrones actually believe
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>>3485965
>"are you even commenting pages in a thread like this, then?"
Explained in second half of sentence, elaborated later.
>"Stopped reading there,"
Maybe refrain from asking questions until you finish reading a post.
>>3485966
Ok tranny.
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>>3491364
>but call him brown and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"
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>>3491370
Call him "brown", and you are a seen as a troon, who is too much of a faggot to use "shitskin" when refering to third worlders. Maybe you don't want third worlders associated with excrement, because being reminded of third worlders would ruin your poopdicking and asseating activities. After all you may have an axewound between your legs or chose to prod someones axewound, but at least your skin is only shit colored if you chose to smear shit all over it.
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>>3491373
Sorry m8 but my cock and balls are perfectly fine and healthy. And unlike yours I also have my foreskin. You will never be white.
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>>3491377
So you don't deny mainly being intersted in anuses and shit?
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>>3491379
You are the one who brought up it in the first place. You are the one with strange anal fixation. Is this a brown person thing? Like designated shitting streets and brazilian poo buckets?
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>>3491392
There are no brown persons, shitskins are fauna, just hairless monkeys. And you not addressing them properly make it seems like you are a faggot.
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>>3491397
You have some deep unresolved issues that I can only assume must stem from deep self-loathing. No amount of browsing /pol/ and larping will change your diverse genetics. Evola lied to you. Don't blame me, blame your ancestors not having any impulse control.
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>>3491402
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>>3491406
I'm more than happy with the body I was born with. You are not happy with yours. Best what you can do is try to accept it or end it in some place where your remains won't cause too much trouble to your fellow tribesmen. They are dealing with enough garbage littering the ground already.
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>>3491406
kek saved
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>>3491409
Sure you are happy, yet you feel the need to protect every gay beastiality presentation by slandering all it's critics as "brown", with derailing a thread to make the issue about the browns, whom you don't even properly hate, just conveniently throw under the bus to protect poopdick promotion. Yet you are also fine with brown bears, as long as they are gay too.
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>>3491420
Why would I hate brown people? Should I hate gibbons too? "Properly" hating them is for other brown people like you.
To get the gay bear scene you have to play as a man and then out of your own, free will start romantically persuing a burly druid that didn't ask for it. I didn't see it because dudes just aren't my thing. But I understand that you most likely upon seeing a light-skined male would attempt to steal his semen for some voodoo skin-bleaching ritual or whatever your people do.
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>>3491429
Why didn't they put a female druid into the game instead? Why do the shapeshifter have to be gay? Wouldn't hetero bear fucking be enough to generate attention with the scene being shared on social media for shock value?
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>>3491437
Then you would have a lesbian bear fucking? You do know that women are a thing, yes? You can play with a female character and the game has a pretty significant female following. Hell, the whole romance aspect was done largely for the female players because they love that shit. So you can have a female player, making a female character and then having heteresexual intercourse with a druid in a form of a bear. And that deeply bothers you because...
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The absolute state of bg3 fans in this thread
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>>3491448
Lesbian bear fucking would have been hilarious. As in the human female would pour some honey on her cunt, and have the bear lick it out. Females fucking a bear is still less bad than racemixing with shitskins. It's the faggotry that is the problem. Holes where people defecate from should not be prodded on screen in video games, should not even be implied.
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>>3491457
No anus is prodded in the game until you prompt it.
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>>3491488
It shouldn't be an option. It being there defines the game as a faggot game. Fag stuff is worse than beastiality. There is "eww gross" in a funny way, and actual disgusting gross, all fag stuff is disgusting, people natural response is disgust by it, measured brain response is the same as looking at maggots in decaying meat, which in some case with troons not mutually exclusive.
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>>3491493
God programmed penises going into anuses in real life so I guess you should unsubscribe from that as well. Try to ask for refund.
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>>3490458
>Is the most heterosexually appealing woman also a whore?
The fuck you are talking about, Karlach is a fucking incel.
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>>3491510
>what is Sodom and Gomorrah
>what is the Great Flood
>what is Gods covenant with Noah
You ever stop and ask yourself why the pride flag has six colors and not ROY G BIV anon?
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>>3491514
You are free to play all the great Christian games instead. No one is forcing you to play ones made by heathen sodomites or whatever.
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>>3491514
>gays don't exist because jewish book
Based groyper.
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>>3491510
God existing is disproven by shitskins and faggots existing, because no good god would allow that. So trying to rely on biology, faggots are basicly brain damaged mentally ill people, either caused by physical trauma, or by hormonal disbalance due to chemical poisoning, and unhealthy diet. Now these unhealthy faggot groups doing their activity naturally disgust all (in this aspect) mentally healthy people, and they are a problematic group that should not be allowed to express themself openly, and should not be allowed outside of an asylum. Only involuntary confinement, exile, or execution solves faggots being in front of others problem, either is workable, as long as faggots are both physically, and both online interaction removed from the general population. It's not ok to include them into anything. You would not give a platform to someone who just smears shit on himself compulsively, yet for homosexuals, whom do a varied form of that platform is given, while they should be treated as the other mentally ill shit covered lunatics.
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>>3490664
>Praising Baldur's Gay 3 over Baldur's Great 2
You're the slop enjoyer mate
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>>3491525
Francis E. Dec, is that you?
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>>3491525
Shitskins and faggots were created by satan, brother.
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>>3491457
>>3491437
So you are upset that you didn't get to fuck bear coochie? Game can't pander to all fetishes out there. There isn't enough development time.
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>>3491574
>There isn't enough development time.
Modders will fix it
>t. average bg3 slopper
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>>3491574
No. The point is that faggotry shouldn't be in the game. And if the devs would have just wanted the shock value, they would not have needed to go with faggotry, beasitality by itself would have been enough to grab attention. And the game is a faggot game, because there is any fag stuff in it.
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>>3476350
What game are they seething about?
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>>3492162
>The point is that faggotry shouldn't be in the game.
They put it in and made millions. And you are too much of a bitch to do anything about it.
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>>3492179
>the 'you won't do shit' psyop has now spread to /vrpg/
Yup, that's enough internet for the day. Here's a pity (you).
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>>3492186
Because you won't do shit. Do you think anyone cares about your faggot whining about where does a virtual bear puts his virtual cock? Do you think screaming into the void like a spergy retard you are is a good way to spend your life? How many years did you spent arguing with retards and third worlders on /pol/? How many do you plan to spend in the future? All of them?
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>>3492190
>Because you
Stopped reading here
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>>3492191
Still cared enough to answer. Is this your only social interaction or do you also argue on a burner twitter account?
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>>3491220
i never feel invested in a game with rtwp, i feel like it's just an auto battler or something like team fight tactics or auto chess kek
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>>3491234
shut the fuck up you faggot
the only reason we have rtwp aids and other forms of mixed combat were because diablo 2 sold so fucking much and suddenly every game on earth needs to stop being turn based
total diablo death
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>>3492218
>>3492217
You only like turd basex becase your precious homo game is doing it.
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I'm on Act 3 first playthrough, and one thing's striking me so far in the writing, is the fact that nearly every heterosexual relationships you come across are either abusive or dysfunctional ones.

Only straight couples seems to have issues (the abusive husband in the underdark, the couple fighting in the tavern, Mayrina's dead lover, Gortash's parents, the dad in the Mermaid forcing his lesbian daughter into a straight marriage).

It felt like they were scared of portraying LGBT relationships as anything but perfect, which doesn't really work when they make up such a huge population in the game (which is, in itself, a complete nonsense and would lead to straight up depopulation given the medieval-fantasy setting implied in BG3 in which the death rate outside of your tribe is huge with cuttroaths and murderous squids everywhere).

The only healthy straight couples I remember were the cute tiefling one and Shadowheart's parents... and that's it.
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>>3492323
Only whites playe rpgs
Remember to not reproduce
Remember straight relationship = misery
Remember to racemix to have healthy children
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>>3492323
>which is, in itself, a complete nonsense and would lead to straight up depopulation
That's bullshit and you know it. Medieval people had so many kids that only thing keeping their population from exploding was hilariously high infant mortality which magic would fix. Everyone being gay and shit might be the only thing keeping toril from turning into kawloon walled city.
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>>3492323
>The only healthy straight couples I remember were the cute tiefling one and Shadowheart's parents... and that's it.
There is also Karlach's dwarf friend and her husband as well as her dead parents. Also couple running the wine festival that takes care of orphans.
And for abusive gay relationships... Cazador-Astarion relation has clear shades of that. Also Minthara pretty much lays out how for drow men are for breeding, women for romance but they keep murdering each other.
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>>3492414

Magic is not an universal problem solver, given the fact it's not common, more likely reserved to an elitist and non philanthropic class, when it's not used to simply enslave or kill the average schmuk.

Your average baldurian beggar is still begging for food in the street while being ravaged by all sort of sickness, your average baldurian peasant is still working the field with medieval agricultural devices and not magic, entire lands are putrefied or engulfed in darkness with monsters, corpses and cadavers roaming everywhere and waiting to chew your ass, survival and pragmatism remain dominant values in game DESPITE OF muh magic : ergo the global death rate is through the roof, and lifespan remain short.

Environnemental pressure is a bitch no magic can alleviate to the degree of having the luxury of having that high rate of homosexuals, ever.

The magic of ESG bucks, however, paired with the faggot tendencies of Larian developers, are much more plausible.
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BG3 reminds me of that Black Mirror fighting game episode
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>>3474945
Why is this game not censored? Good games from Asia are censorshiped in the west but all the degenerate shit is not? Is because it was made by westerners? Hypocrites. They sell degeneracy propaganda to children and no censorship.
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>>3492523
Because then they would get less publicity, for example through streamers flashing dicks on Twitch and making literal children laugh.
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>>3492523
Because westoids want degeneracy. Good games are censored but westoid shit never is. As long as game is made by whites its not censored.
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>>3492323
Westerners are all gay. They don't know how to when man and woman fuck. They only know man on man homo lust.
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>>3492523
Degenerate sexuality is never censored. Look at gay pride parades.
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Why they make the gay bear fuck the hero? What if Im not gay? What if I dont want to see the hero fuck bears? Why they put it in story? Why are western games about fucking bears?
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>>3492549
They made everyone fuck everyone just so nobody feels excluded; God forbid if a character actually has a life outside of lusting for the player or already has a spouse or family with children. It's safer for them to just appeal to everyone and turn the game to a self insert-driven power fantasy/dating sim.
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>>3492218
BG1 came out a year or two before Diablo 2, zoomer. It was 90s RTS games that led to RTWP, not Diablo clones.
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>>3492523
The game is rated M, isn't it? It isn't for children it's for adults. What would you want them to censor? Afaik there's no pedophilia or anything like that.
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>>3492579
NTA but for example, as a child, I enjoyed playing BG1 and BG2 alongside my dad and we talked about our characters and tips and so on. My children certainly aren’t playing BG3 for obvious reasons (including that it’s mediocre and I wouldn’t suggest it even without inappropriate content)
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>>3492580
What? It's not for kids. I don't care if you have an anecdote about playing m games as a kid, me too, but they weren't marketed to us and we needed our parents to get the damn things.

Honestly I wrote off bg3 because it's 5e and didn't seem at first blush to be the kind of classic fantasy, forgotten realms bullshit I like from bg. But I keep reading all these really awful shallow critiques that are mostly offended at the writing. It makes me want to play it desu
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>>3492580
>My children
If you have kids you shouldn't be on 4chan.
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>>3492590
The average age of 4chan is about 40.
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>>3492593
None of these people have kids and no one wants to talk to some offended parent. I don't care what some normalnigger thinks, keep it to yourself.
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>>3492586
Bg1 and 2 were rated teen for “Animated Blood, Mild Language, Use of Alcohol and Tobacco”. They weren’t rated M. The raunchy content in BG3 adds nothing to the game, unless… it doesn’t actually have anything in common with the original games and it’s just a dating sim for Critical Role fans / Twitch streamers?
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>>3492599
Oh that's my bad then, sorry. But yes bg3 is a m rated game, it's not for children. It features sex and violence I'd imagine because it's a very pulpy fantasy story based on d&d, which emphasizes player choice. So idk I'd have to play it but it increasingly seems to me that the ability to do debauched things in bg3 is just part of the fantasy role playing.
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>>3492604
It's a pretty heavy story. The debauchery comes from the brain parasites infecting everyone.
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>>3491275
I can't remember since I read about it myself over 10 years ago. If you can google around, look for interviews or articles about the design process of D&D editions, in particular the transition between AD&D 2e and D&D 3e. Also look into the initiative system of AD&D 2e revised, since it will show you their half-attempt at simulating real time resolution. You could even go back as far as Braunstein where it was all real time and ad hoc, and see how early D&D used callers to collect they party's actions to have "everybody goes at the same time."
Another interesting thing to try and find if you don't mind searching for it is Chris Crawford's article arguing for real-time resolution over turn-based resolution. If some of these are no longer available you might have to dig through the internet archive.
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>>3492218
Typical expected zoomer response.
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>>3492586
>>3492604
You seem reasonable, so I'll give you a sincere review as someone who played EA and retail and disliked BG3:

Strengths:
Turn-based tactical combat. I much prefer this over RTWP.
Excellent production values and presentation. Good graphics, music, voice acting, motion-capped animations. Last RPGs on this level were probably Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk.
Good amount of freedom in how to approach a situation
Good amount of environmental interaction
Decent amount of flavor text responsiveness to player character. Somewhat falls apart on replays or reloads of same scene, often just a unique line of dialogue then back to the next node, but still a good thing.
Maps are very detailed, lots of verticality, very dense with content (which you may find immersion-breaking and unrealistic)

Weaknesses:
5th ed DnD. This isn't Larian's fault, but...
Larian homebrewed a bunch of dumb shit, the "fail skill checks on 1 / pass on 20" really illustrates the fundamental flaws of the d20 system.
Plot is absolutely retarded.
Characters are all terrible, and the game relies on them heavily. You miss a lot if you skip them.
Writing is really, really bad, and I am judging by "average cRPG" standards.
Large amount of (((woke))) bullshit added. How tolerable this is to you is very subjective, some players won't mind it, some will like it, some will be absolutely allergic to it.
Itemization is memey
Encounter design often has way too many enemies for turn based, making fights drag on. Poor AI wastes lots of time thinking about what to do, sometimes doing nothing.
Many fights have very specific gimmicks, which leads to a 'puzzle game' feeling, which contradicts the otherwise good amount of "approach this encounter however you wish" freedom, which is a shame.
UI is somehow a major downgrade from DOS2 and missing major QoL features (detailed tooltips, sorting items by type). Supposedly this has been somewhat improved, I played the game at launch.
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>>3492859
Verdict: Wait for them to finish adding the copious cut content and patching the game, once it hits the "definitive edition" or whatever, snap it up on sale half off. There's the bones of a great game here, but they just did so much stupid shit with it. I would be really interested in a honest retrospective of what exactly happened and when during development to make things end up so weird. I lost a lot of respect for Larian after playing the retail release.



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