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LAST TIME:
>we head deeper into the labyrinth
>bread begins to hit the first major roadblock, the firecunt, who uses an entei and a busted sun team, and right afterwards, a gauntlet of two 6v6s
>orevald and I nearly kill ourselves against the sandnigger
>yeah, hard mode is kind of a piece of shit
>a bunch of plotshit happens
>bro it's le LOVECRAFTIAN because le spooky tentacle people
>but, overall, still mostly having fun, and this game has shockingly few entries on the bingo
>let's hope the fight quality doesn't drag this game down too hard

>What is this?
This is a thread where a bunch of autists come together and play shitty fangames. Join if you want.
This game is Pokemon Odyssey, a self described fusion of Pokemon, Etrian Odyssey, and Made in Abyss. It features a new story and region heavily inspired by the stratums of the Etrian Odyssey games, complete with FOEs and plenty of remixes of Etrian music.
After that horrible last fucking game we did, this one looks really good. Let's see if it lives up to expectations...

>Download Link
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-odyssey-beta-3-0.488536/

>Archive
https://rentry.org/vp-Plays-Thread-Archive

>Fangame Bingo Card Generator
https://bingobaker.com/#6636f8a719381479

>Docs
Encounters
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12yVuZihgWWRDXbPdiXNCeLdAXUTK-p0xYa92x6PR460/edit#gid=0
Pokemon Changes
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N7GY3MS9ra3obZ_LnDloiH3w6kLtsHzg/edit#gid=712241794
Bosses/Sea Map
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1amqGM_9XxW7DEUc5KrUa4Ph1_r7CBm36N9Pbt231zAM/edit#gid=271077452
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pretty rough, should have guessed the barabait squidnigger would use some strong fighting types.
this game unfortunately suffers from the 'cutscene before boss is way too long and doesn't give you the chance to skip it on retries', which would be fine if the game weren't trying to be hard but not the case here. at least you have save states, but still

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Such is the life of being a Rock and Steel specialist.
>>55850829
Thanks and hopefully so, I have weather bullshit on my side, so I'll probably be able to counteract the sun bullshit.
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Redditnigger gets the rope.
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is splatoon even fun or is it one of those things where it's '[genre], but Nintendo' so it gets a ton of artificial hype
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Pretty ez, Great Tusk still kills everything with EQ
I do miss my retarded 80 BP Stab priority move thoughever
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roll credits
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Well, can't say I didn't see that coming, knowing 6th Stratum was the end
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>>55850950
gg, I thought there was more in this one
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>Ethan: We kept you in the dark about a bunch of stuff you've should've been told to begin with because "le secret you just wouldn't understand"
>Nyx rightfully gets pissed off
>Ethan: You're so obnoxious and stupid, we're going on without you!
Way to create needless drama.
On another note I just realized that there's a lot of things called "abyss" in this game, Albaz's lore is called abyss as well, I'll give the dev credit for that one.
>>55850932
It's a pretty mediocre 3rd person shooter, the game majorly appeals to pedos though, so as you can probably imagine it's popular for the worst reasons imaginable.
>>55850950
GG, apparently the game is at 75% completion, so it probably won't take too long for the final version to drop hopefully.
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really like how it looks, it's a shame I never find a good use for it
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This guy is as high as a kite.
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>>55850950
GG
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5 tries. This fight is pretty rough if you don't change the weather.
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>Magcargo not even going down to 50% health after eating a STAB Bulldoze from my Sandslash
Siiiiigh......
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>>55851072
You may want to return to the surface and vitaminmaxx or get the EV training items. The game gets a lot easier when you do.
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Can this game not be gay? FOR FIVE ACTUAL SECONDS?!
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channeling the super eevee mc
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>>55851087
She gets shit done.
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>>55850424
>Ronin
Compression + Frigid Slash. It's definitely the most counterintuitive one.
>Landy
Chasers are good anon what are you talking about? Fencer is solid, and you should max it out eventually because of their boost.
>>55851087
Olympia being like this, is so weird.
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>the reddit character has arrived
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>>55851112
what about this meme
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These jumpscare antagonist bosses are thankfully way easier than the area bosses, at least with my team.
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Alright lads, mark down
>Win battle, lose anyway
>Evil faggot walks away after losing
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what a weird plot development, you're telling me the 'forest people' (People of Chlorophyll) couldn't have tamed pokemon or been attuned to nature with them or something

>>55851112
Chasers are good, but really only if you have a party planned around them desu
My point isn't that they aren't good, just that you need to know what you're doing.
I guess I would retract what I said and say if you're STARTING with EO2U, don't do Expert, but if it's the game you play after EO4, EO3, EOU, etc. then you can try it out and you won't be as annoyed by Expert's design choices as you'll have a better understanding of how to build your shit
>>55851156
Fuck
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how does this game fit into rejuv's lore?
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>>55851180
For what it's worth, it's less retarded than most instances of this trope.
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i wonder if he's going to input read in this game like he does in his own
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Adrenochrome bros...
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>>55851224
I'm not feeling so good vampirebros...
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>>55851078
Probably, issue is that I keep running out of money due to low catch rates eating my pokeballs, I guess I'll go mindless mine at the ore veins.
>>55851087
>>55851094
I like her.
>>55851113
And he's named Silva no less.
>>55851156
Of course....
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>Conviced
Has anyone else caught any typos? This game is surprisingly well proof-read from what I've seen.
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>>55851239
There's an infinite money exploit in this game. Go to the fountain outside the guild hall, set your controller to autofire A at the fountain until you're out of money, go sell the stones you get, repeat.
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>>55851245
would you say this fountain is faster then most games having the mining minigame?
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>>55851273
Given you can set your turbo to 400% and either macro or put something on your controller and alt tab, easily in both effort and actual time spent.
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Do any of these docs have a list of move tutors?
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nearly shit myself and thought i couldn't get back to the city after fighting her, but then i remembered that this game was made by actually competent people unlike the last '''''''''''game''''''''''' we played.
just wish it was a bit more obvious that you can get to etria by tapping the rock

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>>55851273
yeah, mostly because you just set a macro to rapidfire X on it then max out your emulator speed instead of having to actually concentrate
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>>55851298
doesn't look like unfortunately

Thunder punch I remember was in desert town, Headbutt in the guild, I think Icy Wind was at the resort? past that don't really remember
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>>55851314
Thanks. I'm looking for Crunch, Knock Off or literally anything better than Night Slash for Roaring Moon.
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>The good
Presentation was generally pretty good. Area tilesets typically didn't clash, though you do occasionally go from an area using gen 3 styled tiles to an area using gen 4 tiles, I don't t remember seeing Gen 3/4 tiles mixed together.
Music is also good.

The dungeons were generally pretty fun. It didn't really feel too trainerspammy for nearly all of them, and the shortcuts back to healing points were placed pretty well.
Healing points were mostly placed well. There's probably only ~3-5 instances where I felt that they were placed too far out or not placed at all, mainly right before surprise bosses in the last couple of stratums.

The rebalanced learnsets/abilities were generally good. I feel like a few lost hard losing certain abilities (Gliscor losing Poison Heal and getting >>Sand Veil, for example), but generally, most mons were better off.
Regional forms generally looked pretty good and performed well. I didn't get to use most of them, but Sneedslash and Gallade performed very well, especially Gallade after I changed his ability to Super Luck.

The grinding facility started out pretty rough, but it got really good after the first stratum. The electriccfaggot folds to bulldozespam, so grinding exp was really easy.

>The bad
Earlygame (Part 1 basically) was pretty dumb with type restrictions.
The first three captains felt pretty overtuned, it got more manageable after that for me after that.

The last 2 stratums got slightly annoying at points. the 5th stratum was the worst one imo. Warp tiles aren't my cup of tea, and it got confusing pretty fast.

Overall, I'll give the game a low 7/10. It's complete enough to give it a rating, but I'll hold off on anything higher until it gets fully completed. If the quality holds through the final update, this could definitely be a mid-high 8/10.

Basically all of the EO references were lost on me because I'd never played any of them, but it was still a lot of fun nonetheless.
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>>55851245
Noted, I would just rather not drag on for too long considering I already started playing the game rather late.
>>55851298
I noted a few down, you can find the tutor for Thunder Punch in the city in Golgonda (second stratum), Rock Slide is in the Aqua Resort upstairs and it's available for a few gems, forgot which and there's an NPC who teaches Icy Wind also at the Aqua Resort near the beach.
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>>55850957
>>55850972
>>55851060
Thanks bros
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which town has the vitamin shop?
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>>55851335
Aqua Resort has them.
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Should we maybe add 'MC has schizophrenia' to the bingo?

>>55851324
GG, again
you going to wait a day to start empire? i'll probably do it with you when the time comes, misery loves company
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>>55850950
I missed this post. GG bro.
>>55851324
Good read.
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>>55851338
do I need to do a quest for them to show up, the stall is empty
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>>55851353
Oh, I think you need to do a few fetch quests at the explorer's guild for a lady to unlock better stock.
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I love this place's aesthetic already.
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cute, and they'll make for a white couple if he's wearing his human skin, but sadly this is technically interracial so i'll have to call out schlohmo as I see him

>>55851335
charon has the vitamins + nature changers, that's east side of the ocean. varley has the power items, that's west side. both are guarded by level 45-50 FOEs.
it might be reversed but those are the towns
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>>55851338
>>55851360
>>55851367
thanks
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>>55851345
>>55851340
Thanks
>you going to wait a day to start empire? i'll probably do it with you when the time comes, misery loves company
Yeah, I'll wait until you guys are ready, wouldn't want to hog all the """"fun"""" by myself, after all, h-haha...
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This is the biggest nigger placement of a spinner I've seen in a hack in a while.
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>>55851367
I wonder if the semblance is purely coincidental......
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bro?

at least these are relatively minor bugs instead of things that happen during mandatory plot progression that break the game *cough* empire *cough*

>>55851451
decided to search in the shitcord, and yeah the main dev said he loves albaz lore
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>>55851487
That's pretty obvious with him having a Kitt profile pic and shoving her into the game in a place called Golgonda.
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I just noticed this game has the mini revives from Empire......it's like the universe is playing a joke on us.
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Is this a Despian monstrosity or something from EO?
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>kleavor just outsped and killed an FOE in two hits
holy based. i do wish they were higher level to be a bit more dangerous by this point

>>55851527
yeah, i get why (that's how they work in regular EO) but he really should have just made them the same as regular revives kek
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>>55851180
If you're going to make someone start with the series, they start with EO1, EO3 or EO4 depending on their tolerance for jank.
Making a player start with EOU, especially on Classic/Expert Mode is just going to get them to drop the series because its far harsher than 2U will ever be on Expert.
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holy BASED

>demice plays this game once and demands to be let on the dev team so he can immediately shove magikarp and earthquake until after the 8th captain

>>55851536
i don't recognize this yeah, maybe the yugibros can help
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>>55851539
Yeah, Gallade and Sneedoking was soloing FOEs by the end of the 4th stratum kek
I can understand not making them higher leveled though, since you're able to catch them after clearing the stratum, it'd be annoying if they were put above the level cap for the next stratum, either for le balance or for being unable to use power items on them
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Not the most interesting, but I like it.
>>55851536
That's from the Pokestudios movies from BW2.
>>55851539
Question, where's Maple island? I've been looking for it for a while with no success.
>>55851555
Did he actually? Because I wouldn't be surprised.
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>ice punch tutor now
bit weird, but ok

>>55851554
I'd definitely say start with 3 or 4. 1 and Untold should definitely be played later (1 maybe not at all, but I guess it might be fun to see the weird shit in the origins of the franchise, like broken Immunize or the disaster that is Iwaoropeln/the 6th stratum)
>>55851569
That's true, actually forgot they were catchable kek. In a way, kind of wish they weren't and they did the thing in the lords of the sea sidequest where they got custom stats. But it's fine
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>>55851581
no, but given he has a bad habit of infecting the shit he touches with his own bullshit
>where's Maple island
it's one of the harder islands to find. you have to sail to the east, then loop around the bottom back west. the exact route can be found in the boss docs in the OP
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Bros......
>>55851599
Thanks Wagie and noted, I'll look for it.
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>lose anyway, win the battle

>>55851613
nice, i don't think base shiny rates were changed either
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How long is this hack anyway?
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No way I'm getting through this right now.
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>>55851633
probably about 15-20 hours if you're just doing the main story, add on another 5-10 or so hours if you're dedicated towards the sidequests
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How do you spawn the FoE in Varley Woods?
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>>55851646
it's just part of the lords of the sea sidequest, you just have to progress it until they want you to go there (it's after you beat dinogator on northern atoll)
unless you're talking about something else
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>>55851654
I'm retarded and was looking in the wrong part of the woods. All Lords of the Sea are dead now.
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I wish cassian would miss one hydro pump
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Took me a bit to grind this lad, I love the entire Magnezone line and especially their shinies, I'll cherish this one.
>>55851673
You get ganked by a pirate asshat with a stacked team of level 50's as soon as you talk to the lady, so keep that in mind.
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>>55851683
Your post popped up halfway through the "surprise" lol. I managed to pull through, thankfully.
>>55851682
All his mons have free Wide Lenses or it sure feels that way.
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This was a bit closer than I was expecting, but I still got it first try.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Based retard.
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This line could've been delivered in many better ways but the writer went with this unfortunately.
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grinding out vitamins and remembering sunny day got me the win, but holy shit he just never missed a hydro pump. 20-30 minutes of attempts, then 3 tries after using sunny day kek
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>>55851778
Yeah that fight is brutal if you don't swap the weather.
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>>55851778
GG, I'm remembering those retarded bosses from Ashen Frost with fanfic weather that you couldn't change because...you just couldn't okay, I am joking but this hack definitely seems ripe for some kaizoshitter to take it over if the dev starts asking for "balancers"
>>55851773
>an AI that uses statistics and logical thinking to hunt down and kill very dangerous subhuman creatures
Hmm...
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much easier then the last 3 or 4 major boss fights, it helps that the ai doesn't understand how lightning rod works
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>>55851816
Yeah I definitely found this one to be a breather after the waternigger too.
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>>55851778
Nice wok getting through this one, yeah the AI definitely feels like it has boosted accuracy with the bullshit I've seen them pull, like a Nidoking which got hit by a Sand Attack 4 times still landing Earth Power nonstop against my Sand Veil+Bright Powder Sandslash in a sandstorm.
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Oh.
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The AI is as lobotomized as modern Chat GPT as her specs Pory-Z insisted on spamming Thunderbolt on (part ground) Exeggutor despite my other mon being a perfectly valid target.
>>55851795
Tay and Dan were taken from us too soon.
>>55851889
Everybody gets a Scald!
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I'm completely lost, where am I meant to go in the third stratum after beating the "gamer".
>>55851896
To be fair Electric is not that hard of a type to counter compared to Water.
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>overly obnoxious douchebag
>also a redditor
wow, really surprised on that one

>>55851918
that just leads to the end of the stratum, you have to go back to the first room after the geo pole and go the other way
>>55851838
>>55851849
wouldn't be surprised if there was another 'hidden' accuracy modifier
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This faggot was way easier, thankfully.
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>>55851918
Her main types are Steel and Psychic. She just insisted on not only Choice Locking herself into probably the worst option but also using it on the mon where it does literally nothing as well. Certified AI moment.
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THE RETVRN OF THE KANG

pretty easy, led with pory2 and the saint, fake out'd ludicolo, sunny day with pory, murdered his team until suicune showed up, swapped saint for parasect and let pory die
then i brought the saint back in, parasect spammed fentanyl powder, allowing mr. floyd to kill everything
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I think you were looking for this earlier Wagie, inventory limit is starting to really piss me off.
>>55851937
I ended up finding the way eventually, this stratum's layout sucks balls.
>>55851951
Oh no, I meant in regards to the Electric Scald.
Also.
>Steel/Psychic specialist
Damn, I really like her.
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>>55851951
>>55851972
To be fair is there any other good pair for Psychic other than Steel?
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huh. this is supposed to be shinjuku in regular EO, i wonder if this game is implying this pokemon world is le post apocalyptic as well

rejuv, eat your heart out

>>55851972
oh yeah, don't worry i found it, thanks though
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>>55851972
Fair enough regarding electric vs water
>Third Stratum layout
This is easily my least favorite one so far.
>>55851980
Fairy's not a bad pair for psychic mechanically. I'm partial to Normal as well.
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>stratum 3 theme: volcano
>stratum 4 theme: forest
>stratum 5 theme: trainer gauntlet
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>>55850972
>the game majorly appeals to pedos though, so as you can probably imagine it's popular for the worst reasons imaginable.
Modern post-2008 Japan make a game for normal fucking people challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

>>55850932
It's an awful pedophile game like modern Fire Emblem and Xenoblade. Nintendo loves their childfucker Epstein audience. No wonder /v/ and /vp/ loves them.
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Nigga you're in the wrong game.
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>the CIA showed up
it was only a matter of time, they were noticing this pokemon fangame region was mysteriously absent of pozz

>>55851980
fighting works
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Maybe I'm in the wrong game?
>>55851999
Checked and glowniggers get out.
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>a squid instead of a lizard
where's the real special forces agent

>>55851997
>>55852005
??
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>>55852011
I took the 3 Bells to the Sea Temple and went through a portal.
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>>55851980
Ghost, Water and Dragon do pretty well with it, surprisingly Steel/Psychic has a few issues in fangames due to the high abundance of Dark with good secondary types and the tendency of evil team faggots for using Houndoom or Chandelure.
>>55851986
Yeah it really sucks, you'd think the place would circle around itself at least for practicality's sake, but nope.
>>55851995
And literally every single faggot I've ever seen who's obsessed with that game either always ends up trooning out or getting into trouble for trying to diddle minors, I'll never understand why so many retards suck Japan's tiny dick pretending it's a haven for "conservative values" and "morality".
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....still would?

>>55852013
that makes more sense, thought it was inside the labyrinth somewhere kek
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Hello friend!

So it turns out the 3 bells get you access to these guys.
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it's weird this game shows death, including child death, among other things and censors the word bitch
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>>55852017
>And literally every single faggot I've ever seen who's obsessed with that game either always ends up trooning out or getting into trouble for trying to diddle minors, I'll never understand why so many retards suck Japan's tiny dick pretending it's a haven for "conservative values" and "morality".
Japanistan is Wakanda for pedos Istg.

We need to do something about it. 4chan needs a good purging because we are the only sane people on here.
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>>55852051
Remove the IDF, glowniggers and pajeets first and everything else will fall in line pretty quickly afterwards.
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Tick lore retcons off your bingo cards, lads
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neat form, too bad there's no easy way to grind up new members, this game really needs an audino trainer or a rare candy machine
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flutter mane is a piece of shit, as is blaziken. glad it wasn't a mega, it is neat that this game doesn't have them

>>55852071
fuck, that actually could get me the right column if there's also unnecessary filler, evil faggots getting redeemed, and not playtested, all which could be plausible
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>>55852080
if you do the chansey quest, you get access to a lady who fights you with all level 100 chanseys
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>all the brown tree people are good
>all the white squid people are bad
nice try, chaim
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>>55852112
Where is the Chansey in the 4th area to finish this quest?
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>>55852129
from the geo crystal, go up the stairs as if you were heading into the area for the first time. when you get to the pokemaniac hiding in the tall grass, it's the path off to the left near the battle girl running in circles

there's a surprise fight but it's easy
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And the schizophrenia begins.
>>55852045
I find it bizarre how fangames that depict gore and other things of the sort have an obsession for censoring language lately.
>>55852051
I wished, I miss the days this site wasn't full of a bunch of redditor immigrants and the sort.
>>55852071
Sadly my bingo card is lost to the darkness.
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She's not sure if I'm a squid or a yid but she's decided I must die either way. Understandable reaction.
>>55852132
Thanks.
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>>55852132
thanks
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okay, I know they said the geo crystals in the latter half of the labyrinth were nonfunctional, but I was really hoping that was bullshitting, having to run all the way back from the 4th stratum sounds like a major fucking pain

>>55852137
the bingo link in OP should work, RG fixed the problem
>>55852141
>>55852142
no prob
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>>55852153
Don't worry, they still work, they're just at the base camps rather than at the beginning of the stratum
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>>55852153
the crystal in the underground city and 5th stratum work just fine for me, I think they meant the fast travel to the bottom was turned off for them
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Oof, don't think I'll be able to fill this one.
>>55852141
Is that Zinnia?
>>55852153
It worked this time around, I dunno why but when I tried opening before it didn't work.
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>>55852167
>>55852169
ah, thanks
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The grinding payed off at least, this fight was piss easy on my end thanks to Sudochad and the Rock Squad.
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>>55852141
if that women is zinnia i am playing this game right fucking now
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Why are Rockey and Kitt constantly speaking in Spanish, Portuguese or Italian? I'm just confused.
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aether being weak to dark is helpful
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Catching rate-3 Legendaries is easily the least fun part of pokemon for me.
>>55852173
>Is that Zinnia?
Yes
>>55852227
She appears for 1 scene and battle to dispense some edgekino before you smack Entei with your balls.
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REEEEEEEEE
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Spore spamming Breeloom and a fucking choice banded Arcanine, FUN.
>>55852241
Are they roaming events or just really annoying to find?
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>the nintendo switch cost 3500$, some of the most of any piece of furniture
what the fuck

well, at least now i have a place where THAT USELESS NIGGER TYRONE CAN FUCK MY WIFE, I EVEN HAVE LE HECKIN STEREO SO I CAN BLAST JEFRE CANTU-LEDESMA AT 500 DB AND DESTROY EVERYONE'S EARDRUMS
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>>55852273
Static and don't run away or have any special gimmick. They're completely ordinary legendary encounters (aside from not being able to heal on hardmode) yet also the least fun I've had so far playing this. I guess that means either the rest of the game is doing something very right or I've gotten tired of RNG ball simulator in my old age.
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I hate every single fucking aspect of this fight, I really wished a fangame someday just straight up removed flinching and sleep.
>>55852285
KEK.
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And I just confirmed the Breloom is hacked to always survive at 1 HP no matter how much damage it has despite it nothing having Sturdy, it's holding a sitrus berry so I know for a fact it's not a focus sash either, genuinely fucking retarded.
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>using strength to block the FOE's vision to not have to sneak by it
like shit like that, hope there's more of it

>>55852291
haha..hope you find a consistent strategy
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I literally only won due to Sandslash evasion shenanigans, I hate this.
>>55852306
it has taken*
>>55852311
Sadly there's no strategy to counter the sheer bullshit of this fight, as usual I have to rely on luck and the AI not deciding to rape my chances of winning.
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>Reborncord having a melty over Opalo again
>>55852227
Calm down, Low
>>55852241
Yeah, I've never liked 3 catch rate faggotry desu
>>55852311
That's pretty neat
Shame I just walked up to it and killed it kek
>>55852326
haha...
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>>55852285
kek. At least they're nice enough to give you all the funds to pay for it ahead of time.
>>55852332
>Reborncord having a melty over Opalo again
What is it now?
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>>55852336
Farfetch'd>Opalo>Eric is a le racist chud, you know, the usual kek
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FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, SHIT, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
>>55852332
Again?
>Haha.....
I am going to lose what's left of my sanity ain't I?
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>>55851995
>Modern post-2008 Japan make a game for normal fucking people
How young are you? Japanese gaming before that was even fucking weirder, Japan if anything has gotten tamer over time as they suck up burger culture.
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Siiiiiiiiiigh.........
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>>55852336
it's literal nonsense, and of course, it is the exact same faggot from the urmumium/full moon thing a few threads ago, hunter&gatherer
>UMMMMM bringing up the very existence of the confederacy makes you a far right alt right nazi right bigot right white supremacist right
>>55852332
>guy is saying bizarre is one of the best fangames he's played, even compared to le rejuv and desolation
kek. i know bunken did it, maybe we should multi-LP at some point?
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that aether kecleon was weirdly annoying, 6 tries
>>55852348
why are they acting like pilgrims aren't real? I don't get how that part is racist
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>>55852362
I didn't finish bizarre because it was really meme-heavy, but that was before some cursed games so I'd be willing to get it a more fair chance
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>>55852362
>>55852348
also
>head into empire server
>type in 'from:hunter&gatherer'
>11,808 results
it's ALWAYS an empirefag, something about that game, something about that server
the server itself isn't even that bad, it's how they act on other servers
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I've been doing a lot of sidequests and I'm still not at the level cap for this boss.

>>55852348
Sirfetch'd was honestly one of the best designs in the game I thought.
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>>55852051
You're definitely new if you want to purge Japanese games/culture from the site founded to discuss anime and have loli waifu wars copied from a Japanese website because moot's friends were getting persecuted for it on SA.
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>>55852362
Imagine being retarded enough to still believe the civil war was fought over slavery.
Reminder for those unaware, over 75% of slave owners in America were Jews, in fact the days with the most traffic of black slaves and slave auctions just so happen to coincide perfectly with Jewish holidays. Whites barely made up less than 5% of the slave owners in America and it's very likely this small minority wasn't really (((White))).
>>55852381
I still find incredibly funny how Octavius still tries to appeal to the same troonie loonies who tried to get him kicked everywhere.
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>beat up pokemon
>this somehow kills the user
sure

>>55852364
opalo is racist so anything from the game is racist
i remember at one point they were trying to spin the scene where the president tries to shoot himself as bad and racist
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First try. She's trivial compared to the water faggot.
>>55852396
>Slavery was a post-hoc justification for the war
>It was all (((economic)))
>Every single fucking time it's an (((economic))) war
It's so tiresome.
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>>55852399
>i remember at one point they were trying to spin the scene where the president tries to shoot himself as bad and racist
What the fuck? Do troons have a monopoly on suicide or something to them?
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>She just fucking rips the possessing agent off her face and beats the shit out of it with her bare hands
Bros.... in a single scene she has mogged literally every yugioh character and 90% of fangame characters who get possessed.
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>She bullies the redditor too
Best girl.
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>>>>>this is an inn
kek

>>55852396
i actually don't know if they really are leftists or have any real political ideology, they just know empire is seen as 'rightwing' so they act 'leftwing' and try to cancel or shit on every game that isn't empire to deflect attention from it
>>55852409
i wish it was that, that'd be funny. it's just hivemind shit
>game is bad because everyone tells me to dislike it, therefore anything from this game is bad
>when i see 'bad thing' in game everyone tells me to like, (corey killing himself, hazuki killing herself in rejuv) i just ignore it
no principles, same as it ever was
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>The upward stairs take you down a floor and the downward stairs take you up a floor
I hate this. It's minor as hell but it bugs me irrationally.
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kind of wish we were done with introducing new magical races speaking in rejuvvillainese
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>>>>this is the form you fight this fucker in
nooo, i wanted to fight him in his original EO3 depiction
or is it a she because those things look like girly pigtails
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please let this be the end of warp tiles
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>I AM AN INCOMPREHENSIBLE DEITY FROM BEYOND THE STARS, I HAVE CONSUMED PLANETS AND WILL CONSUME THE COSMOS IN ITS ENTIRETY
>go! volbeat and illumise!
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even more magical races

how many we going to get? the average EO game gets to about 4 or 5, we're at 7 now
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>>55852484
oh it's a robot never mind, still at just 6
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>Boss gauntlet
>Status spam
>PULSE 2
>AI being completely retarded and unpredictable
>Extremely long path away from any healing source or PC
>Grinding is absolutely dogshit so using new mons is a titanic pain in the rectum
>Gym leader straight up not giving you a new level cap after you beat them just to make this fight even fucking worse
Amazing, just amazing, fantastic even.
>>55852404
Every. Single. Time.
>>55852420
Which makes Octavius and his lot seem all the scummier.
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>>55852468
There's an optional wing on the upper east side if you want Calm Mind.
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>NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO USE PLUSLE AND MINUN EVEN WHILE FIGHTING GROUND TEAMS AND ENTEI
at least in ashen frost, the mamoswine was actually useful

>>55852504
they're not PULSE2, I don't think normal enemies use any EVs at all, but yeah, it's difficult especially since the second guy has fighting niggers
if you haven't, just put a save state after you beat ethan and try the second fight from there
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>Pretends to be disadvantaged while making threats
Kikebros, he's just like us!
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lmaoing @ ur life faget

i wish i could've gotten the kecleon instead, this shit's fucking gay
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>>55852532
I wonder if you can take a random kecleon in and transform it
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>>55852387
Imagine defending a community that openly sees sexualizing minors is a good thing. FYI, we are oldfags, the pedos are the newfags and redditor immigrants.
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>>55852540
Cartoon aren't real and coming here in 2016 does not make you an oldfag.
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I'm losing my shit, all the Fighting Pokemon already make my life hell, but then comes in Sandy Shocks and everything goes tits up and I have no reliably counters to this piss stain, I'm considering grinding up a fair bit more to see if I can built a full of sand team that can maybe pull off some cheese, sucks even more that two of my best options for dealing with the faggotry of the boss ie Solrock and Lunatone are no longer Psychic types because of the fanfic type the dev added.
>>55852520
They absolutely fucking are at least EV'd to high hell, there's no fucking way a Slowking should be eating an X-Scissor from Kleavor like it's nothing.
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>>55852567
reliable*
if I can build a full on* fucking typos.
I'm probably going to bed soon.
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>>55852548
>Cartoon aren't real
Ahaha y'all are still using that excuse?

We've always hated pedos, dude. Deal with it and stop shitting up our board with your addiction to 10-year-olds.
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FUCK. THIS. FIGHT.
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>>55852606
>Ahaha you still think cartoons aren't real!?
This is the most newfaggy post I've ever seen. Yeah bro we super hated then when /l/ existed. Anyone who ever tells you 4chan was leftist is a liar, but anyone who tells you it was 'based tradcon' is full of shit too. This was a site founded by a bunch of edgy counterculture weebs, you're over here (on a Japanese children's videogame franchise board, mind) trying to erase the counterculture and weeb part of that, and wrangle the edgy part in to only include things that don't trigger you, personally.
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annoying, olympia wasn't too bad, but ethan was proving to be a giant cuck especially the battle bond kecleon. just decided to go back to rain strats

Whiteouts: 51

>>55852614
gg, take a well deserved break
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>>55852614
congratulations, that fight really sucks ass
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>>55852629
>>55852632
Thanks bros.
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>Remember Rejuvenation r*ddit exists partly thanks to the faggot in this game
>Decide to go see what fagotry it's produced since the last time I saw it
>https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonRejuvenation/comments/1cmr7vl/some_clips_from_my_major_overhaul_parody_mod/
Those 7 minutes mentally drained me more than the entire paragon route did, holy fuck
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>>55852619
$50 says you're a Splatoon fan who felt called out by >>55850972 >>55851995

Go back to sucking tiny Jap cock, trannybitch
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>>55852650
>Goind to Reddit in the first place
Why do you do this? Why do you keep doing this to yourself? To your sanity?
Fangames and Hackroms are enough, why burn your mind like this?
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>>55852017
>And literally every single faggot I've ever seen who's obsessed with that game either always ends up trooning out or getting into trouble for trying to diddle minors, I'll never understand why so many retards suck Japan's tiny dick pretending it's a haven for "conservative values" and "morality".
We call anime "tranime" for a reason...
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>>55852650
i got about 4 minutes in
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I was expecting this place to be really annoying but it's not nearly as bad as it looks.
>>55852614
GG
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>>55852657
I hate shooters and multiplayer games. I'm here because I like pokemon but the main games are dogshit, so I'm watching people play hacks and fangames to see if any of them are tolerable or funny. I also like EO, so I'm paying particular attention to this one. Far from my first time in these threads. You got a reply because you were whining about Japan on the anime website again like a newfag.
>I hate the Japanese
You realize you're on a board to discuss POKEMON, yes?
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>>55852650
I feel like a good chunk of my braincells self-terminated after watching the showcase of that mod, I had to stop around 3 minutes. This is like consuming sewage in visual form.
>>55852677
Thanks.
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>>55852017
You really made a mistake feeding the Shartyfag attention, Orevald.
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>leader is electric/fighting
h-haha...
guess i'll reshuffle my team again
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>>55852662
I cant believe Reddit is still up let alone is publically traded now. Ghislaine Maxwell herself started what Gallowboob ended. First redditor to hit 1m karma. Spamming astroturf leftist articles. Yup, that's Robert Maxwell's granddaughter, yup. That's Steve and Ohanian looking the other way while a hooknose ruins Aaron Swartz' life for them, yup.
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>>55852650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg34Nxb_Vjs
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>>55852687
You may be able to push through even with the disadvantage. They're not anywhere near as strong as the past 2.
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>>55852684
I've realized that, I shouldn't talk about politics after drinking, I get really passionate.
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>>55852650
I got a minute and a half in and decided to go back to the sliding ice puzzles.
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>>55852702
It's not really the politics so much as the dude who very clearly doesn't care about the pokemon part of this thread taking it as a chance to cry about anything Japan makes.
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>>55852703
One day these essential games will figure out one-step tile mazes and you'll really suffer.
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>>55852662
tbf, leddit is usually (only very VERY slightly) more mentally sound than reborncord, but holy fucking shit, not today
>>55852672
>>55852683
>>55852692
>>55852703
haha...I'm sorry bros, I couldn't silently suffer it alone...
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I just feel whiplash from all the exposition, why can we never just have a story that doesn't descend into this level of retardation?
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For those of you following along I'm not taking a ton of screenshots here because most of this area is very visually homogenous. The gameplay's alright, if not standard fare for this point in the game, but it's also nothing noteworthy either.
>>55852714
Hamiltonian paths are pretty easy to solve unless there's some additional complication. I'm pretty sure there's already some games that have them too. I seem to recall Africanvs did.
>>55852737
I enjoy a good wince every now and again. I might watch it later if I'm morbidly curious.
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>>55852750
fwiw I think this is fairly close, if not a slight derivative, of an EO plot.
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>>55852750
>Gods
>Aliens
Add Demons, and we will have the Pokémon x SMT x Etrian Oddysey we always wanted.
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>>55852650
I watched that until the end, I now have some more motivation, if even cancer incarnate can make a mod I might be able to make a game one day
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froslass being fast as hell was annoying but it wasn't so bad, 5 tries
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>>55852750
Sorry bro, but this is an Etrian Odyssey crossover, the gods and aliens are mandatory.
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Flygon with QD and Boomburst is pretty good yeah, probably at some point will actually train up Exploud so I can get Soundproof for a partner

>>55852737
christ alfuckingmighty
the one time i will ever say thank you to reborncord, for not doing shit like this
>>55852750
it's not really that bad, just basically opalo all over again (big alien entity wants to eat earth, other alien shit doesn't let it)
>>55852693
yeah, wasn't too bad. did just have to actually train up flygon, unfortunately the chansey trainer is still pretty slow

Whiteouts: 52
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hot
>blue lipstick
would
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exact same name too, i don't mind it that much but it really is kind of weird
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Nice change of scenery.
>>55852780
She's high enough on the best girl scale I'll bend my rule about blue lipstick or hair for her.
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>>55852780
she has a funny conversation at the fifth stratum base camp
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>Ground is no longer SE on Ice
Well that's a hell of a thing to learn at the start of the fight.
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Nice to have these around, though they're expensive. Also I'm taking a wild guess Nyx's ancestors had a thing for squids considering the schizophrenic plot that's unfurling.
>>55852759
I wouldn't be shocked.
>>55852765
I think the Abyssals kinda count.
>>55852776
Understood.
>>55852778
Pretty much, but I still don't like it.
>>55852780
Oh my~
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>>55852814
Despite being caught off guard by the typechart change and with low PP on most of my mons, throwing Paradox mons at the problem seems to have solved it. First try.
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Schizo meltdown time.
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Oh no.

Yugibros, we wanted Abyss Season 2 but not like this. Kitt's a treenigger.
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>>55852854
Apparently a crossbreed?
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Abducted into the Elite Four. What a fate.
They just outright call her a Nephilim too kek
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>>55852827
>I think the Abyssals kinda count
That's Lovecraftian, and those only appeared in SMT If for the SNES, and Last Bible Gaiden for old flipphones.
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>>55852870
>They just outright call her a Nephilim too
Is Ame working on this? Is this part of Starlight Divided?
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i know i'm saying this in a place that has zelda music, but if nothing else, i'm glad that this game introduced bread to how good EO music is, damn

it's sad, while i do like that this is a romhack for that more 'authentic' feeling, it also means that going at more than a snail's pace wrecks the music, the clover dilemma (felt like clover was faster than this, though)

>>55852814
never been like that, were you mentally mixing it up with rock?
>>55852870
kek
the desert people managed to worm their way into a more snowy climate huh
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Nyx definitely isn't meeting her father for the first time. Perish the thought.
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>>55852854
Depending on when the next update comes, the dev is going to have a field day if Konami does decide to drop the new batch of Albaz so will I as a D-link player, I just want to get more big dragons.
>>55852872
Noted, I haven't touched SMT, I know a small amount about the plot and the sheer convoluted retardation it turns into due to hearing friends talking about it once.
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unfortunately not a major villain but she does have a tyranitar
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>>55852899
new batch of Albaz lore, so will I* fucking typos.
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unlike most of the betas we play I wish there was more of this already
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>person has squinty eyes and can sense 'chi'
kek, wonder if this game will get cancelled for racism against asians

(the answer it won't, because everybody stopped caring about hate towards asians once they figured out the skin color of the group that primarily responsible)

>>55852899
most SMT games are pretty simple
>lawniggers (angels and the literal judaic god YHVH who want to endlessly subjugate all of humanity for eternity)
>chaosxissies (demons who want libertarianism)
>neutralfags (le both sides bad group)
and they all fight each other and shit goes to literal hell
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>>55852895
>never been like that, were you mentally mixing it up with rock?
I was in disbelief at your post so I went to check and you're right. I've mandela'd myself something fierce having been playing since RBY and I'm still in a bit of shock with this revelation. Good to know that it's not this game's type autism responsible for that.
>>55852899
I'm hoping we get another batch of Albaz soon.

>Captcha: ABYXX
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>>55852904
>>55852915
gg
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I'm glad the game didn't play coy with this obvious reveal for too long. It's really annoying when stories try and play up a big reveal that everyone figured out a while ago.
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kek
>the redditor is literally a stalker

>>55852915
GG
>>55852919
all good, i was a victim of the 'rock is immune to electric' mandela effect myself for a while
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>>55852921
>>55852939
thanks
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My first 2 mons swept her entire team. She switched in Electrode on an incoming Roaring Moon Earthquake and ended up losing 3 mons in one turn. Gen 3 doubles are brutal.
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This crosses into minor pozz territory depending on how you interpret this scene but given how vacant of (((influence))) this game has been so far, I'm willing give it the benefit of the doubt.
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I think that's it for now barring a few sidequests and legendaries to catch.
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>>55852961
gg
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>>55852961
gg
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The squad.

Total Whiteouts: 28
Savestates: 0

I think this is as close to an "as developer intended" hardmode playthrough as possible. Review coming in just a moment.
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I really liked this game. The music was good, gameplay was good, mapping was great with all the nice shortcuts and plenty of healing spots. Visually great as well, lots of different environments, and no fucking sewer level either. I really liked the seafaring part of the game with all the different islands, makes me wanna try elpis. The game also had a bunch of good pokemon and items available early which is rare nowadays. The sidequests weren't bad but they weren't very memorable except for the kid getting blown up. Hardmode is fucking hard, and my biggest complaint is that the chansey trainer isn't available earlier. At least the lucky egg should be available very early to make the battle house viable. Also the aether type seems terrible, it should be reworked or removed. Other then that I don't have many bad things to say about this, had a lot of fun. If the final version doesn't shit the bed this could easily be better then unbound by a country mile.
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>Light flickered and I lost a good chunk of my progress through the forth layer
Yeah....I'm just gonna go to bed.
>>55852915
GG, yeah it's a really good game despite the occasional retardation in fights, I'm pretty excited to play it again when it gets finished.
>>55852916
Seems really retarded, but potentially intriguing.
>>55852919
Kek, even 4chan is blessing us with the power of the abyss.
>>55852961
GG.
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>The Good
The presentation is wonderful with music, tileset and good readability of sprites/map design all working in tandem. The character portraits are charming and vibrant, and the regional forms look great with a very small number of exceptions. If anyone knows what the area captain boss track is, I'd love to know.
The characters are overall likable and quirky without leaning too hard on the quirkiness in lieu of any further substance. The two "tropiest" characters, Olympia and Kitt, both get plenty of screentime where they do things aside from play to a writing style gimmick and they do them competently enough.
I think I might be the odd one out here, but I think overall I really like where the difficulty of this game's hard mode is at. It gives you ample tools to handle the variety of challenges it throws at you, and while I think this game's boss design leans a bit too hard on Le Weather Team when there's so much other designspace for creative things in Doubles, I do ultimately respect that some of the more complex strategies would've been difficult to make the AI play competently. At least when not playing a duo-type run, these fights felt very tough but never insurmountable, even the one where I played into his preferred weather (water) rather than trying to circumvent it. The non-weather captain bosses were a tremendous step down in difficulty despite being objectively well put together, which goes to show just how strong weather teams are in doubles.

>Stuff I don't have strong opinions on
FoEs entirely fall off as threats after the 2nd area. We discussed this prior in the thread, but the game kind of had a catch-22 with making them catchable in that they couldn't be too powerful lest you not be able to use them in your new level cap.

>>55852990
F. That must be frustrating. Get a good night's rest.
>>55852963
>>55852964
Thanks bros.

1/2
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>The Bad
My biggest gripes with this game are all mechanical ones. It runs very slow for a Fire Red hack, slower than any other I've played. I basically played the entire game at 200% speed which is really unfortunate because it ruins a lot of the music.
I also really really REALLY dislike the type chart changes. I don't mind the Aether type that much, in fact I think it's a decent defensive type and it checks a lot of otherwise hard to answer types. While I'm no big fan of Fairy, its removal coupled with Aether's weakness to Dark cement Dark as the premium attacking type of the game. I think Aether would've worked way better in a game with Fairy than without, as much as I never thought I'd say those words. I also really dislike the Water+Poison and Bug+Grass interaction changes a lot coupled with how unreasonably effective it makes Sludge Bomb as a coverage move on pretty much everything I could toss it on.
In the previous part of the review, I said the mapping is good, and it is, but I think the 3rd area is easily the worst part of the game. Annoying to navigate, visually homogenous lava caves without even a comfy vibe to accompany them make for a dull area. My favorites were the 2nd and 5th areas. While they had their gimmicks, they didn't outstay their welcome and both had decent pacing and integration of the story into their progression.
Another minor thing I noticed is that hidden itemfinder items tended to just stop existing after the 3rd area or so.

>Final Thoughts
I've never played an EO game but this hack has done a tremendous job at making me want to. I'd give this a solid 8.5/10 and I'd love to see it finished soon with this level of quality put in.
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really wish team hadn't been filled with ground or flying types first go around. decided to just bring back my rain strats
that glalie is disgustingly fucking tanky jesus, but other than that not too bad

Whiteouts: 54

>>55852984
>>55852993
>>55853014
not even close to a full bingo, well maybe ashime's might be kek. again, gg
>If anyone knows what the area captain boss track is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14U64jWO85s
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>>55853019
Yeah that Glalie is a meatball. Thanks for the link as well.
>Bingo
My bingo board is pretty open.
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Damn. The joke with filling my bingo board in with green stars was that I'd fill in the pozzed tropes with a gold 6-pointed one and it just never happened this playthrough.
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ah, and now comes the (((racemixing)))

>>55853025
no prob, and the EO that music comes from is a breddy gud place to start, if you want to try
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>>55853049
>Kitt is the product of racemixing
>Is mildly retarded
Unintentionally based?
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i really should have been leaning into rainshit all playthrough kek, it's a pity i can't get any normalmons to really take advantage of it

>>55853052
>game also refers to her as a mistake
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and it's over
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>>55853061
Even with no other rain abusers in party, based Pelican pulls his weight consistently
>Hydro Pump, Hurricane, Ice Beam godlike coverage
>Sits next to your earthquake spammer making encouraging pelican noises
>Roost for sustain, slow birb comfortably lands after all the shaking has ended for the turn
>Rocky Helmet to jew Fake Out spam, comfortably takes priority with base 100 DEF
Pelipper is based everyone should use them when their types are water or flying.
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>>55853066
GG

End team and final thoughts?
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>>55853066
gg
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some of these are arguable, like the pseudo or the redeem one, but no bingo safely for now

anyway, review.
I am aware that I'm more biased in favor of this game than I usually am, and actively came in wanting to like it due to the influences here.
But, beyond that - this game is pretty fucking good.

>The Good
This game is gorgeous. I didn't really think a romhack was capable of pulling off this level of presentation, but everything here is very well done, from the backgrounds, spriting, portraits, you name it.
The music is EO, so it's fantastic. Some quality is lost from the original compositions due to I suppose the GBA's limitations, but it's still really good.

The gameplay also is really good. The exploration is not up to par with the actual EO, but it's fine. The dungeons are designed well enough, the side content works when it isn't generic fetch quest bullshit, and the ship is SOVL.
Also, Ashime you're not alone in liking the overall fight design. There's definitely a few encounters that are overtuned and designed very fucking weirdly (the gauntlet of Ethan/squidnigger for one) but the game isn't afraid to give you good shit, either with TMs, or just buffs, meaning that you're allowed to explore a variety of strategies without anything feeling particularly broken or too weak to use properly. Having not that many Pokemon in the dex and not having shit like megas I think works in this game's favor in that regard.
Also, some decisions like 31 IVs on everything - really good fucking shit.

In general, this is a really comfy game and because it is a romhack, gave it that sort of authentic feeling you do lose with fangames. It's hard to describe exactly, but it really does feel like this is a game I could have picked up and played when I was a kid, barring some of the edgier shit.
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>The Neutral
The type chart additions and changes feel...arbitrary. I didn't think they were intrusive and were kept to mostly a minimum, but I question their relevance.
Aether as a type was refreshingly not the common balancenigger type that's strong vs every good type / weak to every bad one and slapped on everywhere. But it's still pretty weak, so again, not sure what the point was there.

Using actual EO locations, names and even taking some characters from EO3 directly (Olympia, Abyssal God) is...odd. I get the feeling I as an EOfag am supposed to be basedfacing when I see that, but it just comes off as a bit offputting.
This also leads into the story, which I thought was...serviceable. It's a lot more wordy, character-filled, and edgy than the typical EO, which I don't think works in its favor (I assume it's the MiA influence). It's also just strictly worse than EO3's story, which it rips off heavily. But, it's fine.

>The Bad
This game's relation with grinding is pretty fucking terrible. The grinding house is just not very good, and even the Chansey lady later is very slow as well. I think the exp gain formula is fucked due to the perma exp share. So, while I want to and am encouraged to train up new shit, that's not actually feasible.
But the worst shit is the EVs. Vitamins/Power items for EVs is a good idea, it's executed like shit here. You need 39000 to max out one stat's EVs, that's 78k for the whole mon, and you don't get that kind of money without macro-ing off the fountain for hours.

Again, this really pushes you into basically just making one team. Maybe this would be fine if it were easy, but Hard mode is not, and often necessitated swapping out team members.
Really should have just stuck to either making the fights straight up hard with no need to grind, or giving it a lot more leniency.
Very reminiscent of Ashen Frost, and while it's not that bad, it's definitely really annoying.

>>55853073
probably talk about it next post
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if I wasn’t going to get the pc version what is the definitive version of EO3
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>Final Verdict
I'm thinking a 7.
If the quality keeps up, I think this might become my favorite fangame/romhack we've done and I'd probably give it a 7-8 (in my head, 8 is the number I start thinking that a game is legitimately GOTY contender).
Just really enjoyed this one, kvetching about some of the plot elements and the desertnigger aside, and would happily recommend to anyone (like Ashen Frost, probably play on normal mode until/unless the grindingshit gets fixed). Maybe again that is the EO bias + whiplash of an actual quality game after the godawful fucking trash heap that was Full Moon, but regardless

>>55853157
as for team, really liked all of these. Armaldo the Swift Swimmer, Masquerain with Quiver Dance and a large moveset, Eviolite Porygon2 who would often change weather, Ledian who alternated between Light Clay screen setup + legitimately hard hitter with priority and Power up Punch, etc. Even Parasect was surprisingly useful with Spore and Rage Powder allowing me to cuck the AI quite a bit on top of being surprisingly tanky.
Hoping to take St. Floyd to the final boss, probably replacing Kleavor who's a bit redundant with Armaldo, unless I want to try out the Boomburst Flygon + Exploud strat
>>55853162
only 2 others, switch (the same as windows) and DS, i'd just recommend emulating DS
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>>55853075
>>55853073
Almost forgot before I went to bed kek, but thanks bros
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how feature complete is Empire V11 I wanna start that trainwreck soon
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Can't really sleep and since I'm sure we're all so very eager to go back to Empire, I'm gonna try and finish things up. These past few fights have been absolutely miserable, Aimee was as clutch as it gets.
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Metagross survived a crit Hydro Pump from Milotic at 3 HP thanks to assault vest and it clutched the win so hard.
>>55853155
>>55853157
>>55853176
GG.
>>55853429
Apparently we're still only at the halfway point in terms of completion, because the torture never ends.
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I haven't seen a game trying to get two characters to fuck this hard in a while.
Jokes aside, these fights were miserable, Ethan was annoying but nothing insane, but Olympia was just retarded, Mawile doesn't take super effective damage from anything, it's absurdly bulky and it has Intimidate for the extra kick in the balls, her Dragonite is pure cancer, Wonder Scale+weakness policy together with Outrage in a game with no Fairy types feels fucking miserable, the rest of her team was equally as annoying, thankfully Scizor and Porygon Z were kinda easy to cheese, Alakazam got cheesed by gen 3 turn mechanics and I don't recall her last Pokemon since I'm way too tired.
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You know what's more fun than a shitty ice section? A shitty ice section with trainer spam.
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The game throws you into a long section without any healing to be found, which is infested with trainers and the game randomly throws a gank fight your way without healing you before the fight either, fantastic.
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Another fight that's complete and utter fucking dogshit, to the point that I just decided to switch the difficulty to normal and guess fucking what, barely any fucking thing changes on normal except that now opponents dont have PULSE 2 at all fucking times, I genuinely hate this game's fight design. AND NOW THE GAME OFFERS ME HEALING.......we literally have a guy who can heal people and Pokemon on a whim here and the game made use of his powers just once, literally just once.
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Seems that squid pussy has got the treenigger king actin' unwise.......please kill me.
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>>55852548
Reminder that anyone bragging about being an Oldfag is a complete and utter retard.
Original oldfags would be in their late 30s, imagine still shitposting and arguing with randoms on the internet at that age kek
Captcha: Y SØY
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>>55852657
Based wojakposter
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>The good
This game's presentation and tiles are very good, it has a charming feeling to it that's seldom seen in either fangames or romhacks, the character portraits are very charming and give that extra spice to the blend, I very much wished more fangames and romhacks made use of them since they help a lot with distinguishing characters and personality. The fakemon are very well designed for the most part both in terms of movepool and design, their inspiration on EO monsters is cool, granted I haven't played EO so I'm not too in touch with that. The music is very good, I didn't always get a good chance to listen to it since I ran the game through speedup a few times, but it's very solid overall. The boat is a very neat addition that I really enjoyed, it's a pretty fun minigame of sorts to find new islands and what they offer. The game is very generous with power items and TMs pretty early in the game, Pokemon placement is a mixed bag, but the game does give you some good options right from the get go, not to mention a few Pokemon have supposedly received buffs, which makes them much more viable assuming it's true. The characters are alright-ish, Olympia is definitely a stand-out and I think that's about it, I know it might sound strange to praise a game for just having a passable cast but considering the absolute hellspawns we've had to deal with during past fangames like Caitlin, Terra, pretty much almost every character in Empire's cast and Full Moon's shitter gallery, it's just nice to not have a massive headache for once.
>The intermediary
Kitt is obviously the dev's waifu, so she gets a lot of privileges ironically enough despite being essentially akin to an antichrist in-universe, I kinda wished the dev went full in with the Abyss lore references, I do kinda hope we get to fights against a stand-in for Albaz or Aluber or Eclesia. The story is hmmm......okay? I don't like cosmology based stories and such much, it very much reminds of Opalo's story.
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except it's far less insulting and I do like aspects of it at least even though the big bad is basically yet another Unktena. I haven't played EO as I've already mentioned, so I can't state my opinion of the plot this is obviously based on, but I think it's passable regardless.
>The divisive
The mapping in this game confounds me, on one hand you have the 2 first stratums, which I think are pretty good in terms of design and they're very distinct, but the others are.....not so great, the third stratum sucks, it's too homogeneous, easy to get lost in and traversing it sucks ass. The forth is a massive slog without much of significance happening anywhere, it feels needless long for the sake of it and the fifth and sixth stratums suck for a few different reasons, the fifth is relying on really annoying warp pads, they're not good confusing and I don't think the map is too disorienting, but I don't think it's particularly fun to get through, then sixth just sucks, an ice level with trainer spam is not a fun concept no matter what people might believe and I frankly hate it despite not being anywhere near as bad as the abortion that was the copypasted hell from Cuckguard. The F.O.E.s are handled....weirdly, they're typically meant to be avoided early game but beating them doesn't really wield rewards for the most part past a certain point, due to how the EXP share is handled, you don't really get much EXP for beating them, they rarely if ever drop items after you beat them and said items are pretty bad or mediocre, I feel like they should be a bit more rewards to actually incentivize fighting them, I think they're handled fine during the boat sections since they block access to the islands, but on the labyrinth, they're poorly executed.
>The bad
The difficulty, I whine a lot, I get that, but I had a miserable experience playing on hard and even normal difficulty can be miserable sometimes, the AI often feels like it's cheating with illegal EVs or some other nonsense.
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Some of the doubles sets in this game are utterly miserable to face like Fake Out spam combined with sleep spam. Many fights felt way too overtuned for the all the wrong reasons, especially fights which involved weather. To make things even worse it's absolutely miserable to grind in this game for levels, one of the reasons I fell behind was due to this, I had to spend hours gaining miserably small amounts of EXP just to evolve my Pokemon, eventually you do open up an option to face a level 100 Chansey later in the game, but it's too little too late and it barely makes a difference since the perma EXP share screws EXP gain way too much, with how much this game incentivizes you to train up new party members, this is atrocious and I hope it gets addressed, to add on to this, the way you get EVs in this game is horrible, having to rely solely on vitamins for it is just not a good way to do it, even though farming money in this game is very easy, it's very tedious. The type changes are terrible though minimal and Aeather as a type is terrible, removing Fairy in favor of it was a mistake, Dragons and Dark types become way too difficult to check otherwise. For last I believe is inventory space, I don't understand why you would do this, why make the player rely on such an incredibly small inventory space for the entirety of the game? Especially considering this game has plenty of fetch quests and things of the sort, it becomes absolutely horrendous to juggle the inventory constantly.
>Final verdict
I like this game despite my constant complaints and grumblings, it's a very cozy adventure for the most part and I very much enjoyed it despite the issues, I sincerely hope this game does get finished eventually so we can finish it, I haven't been excited to play through something in a while and this game definitely does interest me, I'd give the game a middling 7, it's good but has flaws. Oh also, I don't understand why this game doesn't have the future paradoxes.
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I guess I didn't even come close to completing the bingo card, granted I got some extremely specific prompts to fill. Anyhow, I'm hoping I get at least a little sleep, not sure if I'll be joining for another round of the Empire torture fest, so best of luck for when you lads decide to go into that hell.
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Forgot to put my sheet up last night kek
Some may be reaching a bit, but whatever, this game isn't filling the card anyway
It'd probably check off a lot of a hypothetical EO trope bingo though kek
>>55852993
>>55853014
>>55853155
>>55853157
>>55853176
>>55853654
>>55853673
>>55853685
gg
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>>55853155
>>55853157
>>55853176
Good read and your reasoning makes sense. I'd forgotten how obnoxious the grinding was. I ended up going the x4 speed power item route over the vitamin route which....wasn't much better in terms of time, if at all.
>>55853460
>He let the XYZ make it to battle phase and attack
Skill issue for him desu

>>55853599
Assuming they weren't underage when they found this place.

>>55853609
GG
>>55853654
I will keep holding out for Aluber.
>>55853673
It's basically Opalo's story without all the gay shit around the natives. When I frame it like that to myself, I like it so much more.
>>55853685
GG once again, and good read.

Maybe one of these days a fangame that cribs Visas lore will release too.
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kek, I forgot not everyone had access to Bulldozespam like I did, the grinding house was good for me, I could beat the electricfag probably 5-6 times consistently before a static para fucks me over enough that I needed to stop and heal
Though uncapping your turbo speed and setting a 1 ms delay A macro definitely isn't intended either kek
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Didn't notice we were at image limit kek
Should the next bread just be an empire thread or just a whatever thread?
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>>55854195
if you guys are really going through with playing empire again you might as well make an empire thread
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>>55853609
>>55853654
>>55853673
>>55853685
GG
>>55853689
kek, you might actually be able to get it since the 'champion' is very likely going to be the king squidnigger
but is there really any 'impossible fights'?
>>55853917
Yeah, I could have gone more in on how annoying the grinding was, I actually did a mix of power item/vitamin, but it was still just too slow. It's sad because if the grinding was fine or nonexistent this game would instantly be 8/10 and might actually be my GOTY so far kek

An easy fix I think would have been to just increase the EVs both power items and vitamins give by a lot, maybe 64 in a stat. Alternatively, I know Elite Redux actually has the Demice/Showdown EV slider, but I don't know feasible that would be to implement here.
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>>55854271
>>55854195
And yeah, might as well make the return to Telius official, haha..
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odyssey sucks the writing sucks there's no pokemon diversity and the maps suck
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>empire crashing on e11 start unless I start it from the """dream"""
Haha...
Probably has something to do with having 0 pokemon in your party kek
>>55854331
Ok, bread is baking
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Oh yeah, and one more thing on the grinding - EO itself isn't really grindy at all, at least before the postgame content where you need to respec and respeccing costs 2-5 levels depending on the game, so it's not even like it's 'keeping with the spirit of the series it's adapting' or whatever excuse people would normally come up with

>>55854340
don't worry octavius, we're trashing your game next
>>55854341
kek
let's see how bad the shitcode is this time
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>>55854363
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>>55853609
gg



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