What makes them legendary? They're just paradox cyclizars
>>55849632Their power
>>55849632They're far stronger than other Paradox Pokemon, even stronger than the ones that are literally based on Legendary Pokemon, which is reflected in their abilities being overtuned versions of Protosynthesis and Quark Drive.It's unlikely we'll ever get more elaboration than that, but we can speculate that they were in fact genuinely so powerful that it's the reason that Sada/Turo could only ever summon two Koraidon/Miraidon before the time machine stopped pulling them in from that point onward.
>>55849632paradoxes are legendary
>>55849632Well, correct me if I'm wrong but the "legendary" status practical-wise is defined by The Pokemon Company I guess, and/or maybe Gamefreak, but lore-wise, they are defined by the people in that universe due to their rare and powerful status.This however doesn't necessarily mean that only one of each species exists, and this case in particular could be the same case of the legendary dogs, being "normal" pokemon before being resurrected by Ho-oh.
koraidon's ride animations are legendarily retarded, does that count
>>55849632all paradox mons are legendaries anon
>>55849795no they aren’t
>>55849632>be a powerful legendary in the past>run of the mill average shitmon in the present>powerful legendary in the futurethat must suck
>>55849822Pigeons will enslave us all eventually.
>>55849632they are cool
>>55849801>are rare>are powerfull>are endgame mons>can’t breed>some are shiny lockedthey are legendaries
>>55849915Is Manaphy a legendary?Or just a mythical?
>>55849915>are rareThis applies to many Pokemon that aren't legendary.>are powerfulThis applies to many Pokemon that aren't legendary.>are endgame monsThis applies to many Pokemon that aren't legendary.>can't breedThis applies to some Pokemon that aren't legendary.>some are shiny lockedThis applies to some Pokemon that aren't legendary.
>>55849926Mythical are just a mistranslation of legendary. Therefore yes, manaphy is a legendary.>>55849929Name a single non legendary mon that fit all of those criteria
>>55849822>"We are the middle children of history. Born too late to explore earth, born too early to explore space."We are nothing more than fetish lizards who long for a glorious past and dream of a distant future, while settling for a good pair of thighs surrounding your body.
>>55849939Gholdengo.It's rare, it's powerful, it's an endgame mon, it can't breed, and it's shinylocked by default.
>>55849915Paradox Pokemon are their own category of Pokemon, just like Ultra Beasts.The correct answer to this quiz question was Pheromosa.
>>55849939>Therefore yes, manaphy is a legendary.But it's not all that powerfulNor endgamecan breedAnd wasn't properly locked in Gen IV
>>55849939>Mythical are just a mistranslation of legendary.No? There's a defining difference between 伝説のポケモン and 幻のポケモン, Mewtwo and the birds are the former whereas Mew is the latter, that's how it's been from the very beginning in Japan, but it took until Gen 5 for TPCi to give a fuck to make the localized distinction between Legendary and Mythical.
>>55849822Cyclizar ain't even a shitmon, it's an annoying ass utility mon.
>>55849632They were classified as such.
>>55849959That’s a legendary mon anon
>>55849975The classification didn't exist at the start, it was added later.Hence Arcanine being "legendary" in the zukan or Lugia being "mythical" on its movie.
>>55849996>Hence Arcanine being "legendary" in the zukanWhat changed was the definition of legendary. In Gen 1, the "legendary" Pokemon were Arcanine, the birds, the Dratini line, and Mewtwo.>#143 Articuno: They fly among wintry mountains with their long, flowing tails streaming in their wake. Folklore has it that those seeing an Articuno in flight become so enraptured by its beauty they die rooted to the spot>#144 Zapdos: Said to fly with what sounds like the buzzing and snapping of sparking electricity. As the divine bird presiding over the heavens, Zapdos spend thousands of years above the clouds. Perhaps lightning is their way of showing anger.>#145 Moltres: ‘The Phoenix’ – the famous legend of a bird whose fresh blood confers immortality when drunk – is said to be modeled after Moltres. If this Pokémon were to exist, their fiery wings will surely bedazzle all those that witness them.”>#146 Arcanine: A legendary Pokémon that appears in Chinese folklore. Sanctified paper chits imprinted with an Arcanine illustration are considered beneficial for keeping evil at bay.>#147 Dratini: Legendary Pokémon live! A Safari Zone visitor just happened to catch a Dratini in the park’s pond. The lucky angler became an overnight sensation with news of the discovery exploding globally. This fortuitous accident convinced many that all legendary Pokémon exist without any doubt.>#150 Mewtwo: There is an urban legend of a mad scientist whose tenacious recombination of Pokémon DNA resulted in a horrifically brutal creature. Could such a frightening Pokémon really exist?So under Gen 1's definition of "legendary Pokemon", Arcanine and Dratini line counted just as much as the birds and Mewtwo. However, Gen 2 retconned the definition of "Legendary" to mean "god-like" or "absurdly powerful".
>>55849822Why are paradox mons in general such brutally min-maxed killing machines? Why are present-day pokemon such shitmons compared to the past and future? Hard times strong men, strong men good times, good times weak men, weak men hard times?
>>55849991No, it isn't. HOME doesn't recognize it as a Legendary Pokemon, otherwise it would come up alongside Koraidon, Miraidon, Ogerpon, the Loyal Three and Terapagos when searching for Legendary Pokemon.
>>55850014>What changed was the definition of legendary.It never had one.
>>55850025made with competitive in mind, not all of them made the break but their purposes are clear
>>55849795I agree they're an UB-kind of group that was literally chategorized as legendary by the rotom dex. They may not be officially chategorized as that, but in fact they cover the same position and their lore is the same as a legendary too, since they are pokemon proven to exist but so strong and rare that commoners never saw them.
>>55850014definition of legendary: tied to legendsSimple as. Paradox and UBs are tied to legends, so they are legendary. I have to say though that UBs work actually much more in this due to them being limited and the rotom dex listing them as the same rarity as other non-core legendaries. Most paradoxes are limitless, and the dex doesnt have the legendary layout for them if i recall correctly, so they arent legendary
>>55850094Except for the part where all UBs except Blacephalon, Stakataka and Poipole and Cosmog are unlimited in their holes.And most of those aren't unique either.And the Rotom Dex clearly defines them as UBs instead of legendaries
>>55850150Plus Poipole is a first partner Pokemon in its homeworld
>>55850025>wtf? Why are chicken not as powerful as dinosaurs?
>>55849632>What makes them legendary?You know the meaning of the word legendary, anon?There are legends about the Iron Serpent and the Winged King.
>>55850222>fanfic written by a hack fraud fiction author>legendslet me guess, you think Harry Potter is some kind of legendary being too lol
>>55850234In the future, he will be because no one will know that Harry Potter was fictional
>>55849929yeah but not all at once you dumb faggot, take the L and cope
>>55849632Idk. It seemed like a great opportunity to have a pair of mascot Pokemon not classified as legendary. They could have even had BSTs like Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant. I actually think that might have been neat. Only the Gen 1 starters have gotten non-legendary box art status. Suicuine in the only sub 600 BST legendary to get box art. I guess it doesn't mean anything to get hung up on this, I just don't think a box art Pokemon NEEDS to be legendary.
>>55849632>What makes them legendary?They have legends about them didn't you noticed with your retarded little eyes the raidons being on the fucking lore book of the games?
How is Miraidon supposed to have legends? It doesn't exist yet in the current timeline
>>55849632there are legends about them
All of the NPCs think your dragon is just a weird-looking Cyclizar. That seems to be the only reason Cyclizar exists, to explain why nobody thinks your "legendary" is anything out of the ordinary.
>>55850765Its a cryptid
>>55850758>>55850772>it's a imaginary creature in a fantasy book writen by a fiction author so it's totally lefendary dumb speedreeder.
>>55843425>mythical>legendary>sub-legendary>ultra-beast >paradox>shilled
>>55851186I own and love the fuck out of this book
>>55851186>>55850234HP and SW are under all definitions fiction. The Scarlet/Violet Book are sold as real field investigation about the Area Zero and has many truths in them, so people believed (and probably some of them still believe) in the fantastic creatures depicted there as real, hence the legend.It doesn't matter that Heath made up the Winged King and the Iron Serpent before the professors actually brought real ones from another world, they still became popular cryptids and the legends of Area Zero feature them
>>55852263What?
>>55851186>it's a imaginary creature Which actually exists>in a fantasy book That has been proven right multiple times in the game just say you didn't play the game already
>>55849632They're the first paradox species
Who cares if they're legendaries or not. They were a mistake just like those P*radox Pokemon.
>>55849632Most legendary pokemon are just rare and powerful, so these 2 paradoxes fit that criteria
