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>>55796483
>When Buneary comes, I'm going to get a male one, name him Chad, and pretend that while I'm asleep he goes around fucking everyone's female Lopunny.
The only amazing thing about it is that he can visit all those Lopunny in under 8 hours.

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Vulpix Ingredients revealed
>Beans
>Corn
>Taters

Only introduces one new ingredient to Taupe Hollow specialists (a Golem will gather Beans and Taters), but it's a good addition for a berry specialist diverse from Typhlosion.

>Finally got slowpoke tails
>it’s a dessert week
>already cooked twice so no point in using the ticket
meh

>>55843044
I see they still want to keep dessert taupe weeks a pain in the ass.

>>55843044
an energizing cheer berry pokemon seems interesting on paper, but I have to wonder how useful vulpix will actually be. I'm not a berry player though, I focus on ingredients and meals.

Can't play this game if you have a job, it's not possible to sleep 8 hours if you do

>>55843516
you just start recording like an hour or two before you actually go to sleep

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>>55843361
So let's analyze what dishes you can hope to make with a Taupe Hollow team formation.
Here's some Pokémon you're likely to use, excluding level 60 ingredients:

>Charizard - Sausages / Ginger
>Ninetales - Beans / Corn
>Dugtrio - Tomatoes / Leeks
>Arcanine - Herbs / Sausages
>Golem - Beans / Potatoes
>Marowak - Ginger / Cacao
>Flareon - Milk / Cacao
>Typhlosion - Ginger / Herbs
>Pupitar - Ginger / Beans

Ginger is annoyingly very prevalent here and is likely to be your filler ingredient.

With these ingredients alone, thereby excluding mushrooms, eggs, apples, honey, oil, and Slowpoke tails, here's the multi-ingredient dishes you can make (ordered by strongest first):

>Desserts
"Hustle" Protein Smoothie - Beans, Cacao
"Fluffy" Sweet Potatoes - Potatoes, Milk

>Salads
"Overheat" Ginger Salad - Herbs, Ginger, Tomatoes
"Contrary" Chocolate Meat Salad - Cacao, Sausages
"Immunity" Leek Salad - Leeks, Ginger
"Heat Wave" Tofu Salad - Beans, Herbs
"Water Veil" Tofu Salad - Beans, Tomatoes
"Snow Cloak" Caesar Salad - Milk, Sausages

>Curries
"Inferno" Corn Keema Curry - Herbs, Sausages, Corn, Ginger
"Dream Eater" Butter Curry - Potatoes, Tomatoes, Cacao, Milk
Spicy Leek Curry - Leeks, Ginger, Herbs
"Limber" Corn Stew - Corn, Milk, Potatoes
"Solar Power" Tomato Curry - Tomatoes, Herbs
Hearty Cheeseburger Curry - Milk, Sausages

The takeaway from this is that corn only really benefits curries in situations where you have no leftover ingredients from previous weeks, a lack of ingredient magnet activations, etc.
Ninetales arguably helps make the "Inferno" Corn Keema Curry viable on weekends, as a good Charizard can really make sure you're not short on sausages or ginger.

If you have the Go Plus+ Pikachu, you at least have a source of apples too which unlocks a shitload of Desserts dishes, notably "Teatime" Corn Scones, and "Petal Dance" Chocolate Tart.
Funnily enough, adding apples does nothing for Curries or Salads.

>>55843558
I was unfortunate enough to roll Desserts, despite having great pokemon for the other two. I'll be getting jack shit from meals this week.

Now should I do Taupe Hallow or Greengrass isle this week?

>>55843590
I was on desserts last week, and it was a miracle that I got past the 1 million strength milestone.
It left my ingredient storage depleted though, so I'll be running ingredient specialists for a while to replenish.
This week though I got salads, so that's not so bad.

My Taupe Hollow team leaves much to be desired though, I only have the one BFS Typhlosion, compared to my Lapis Lakeside team which has BFS Meganium, BFS Victreebel, a full-corn Bewear that gets BFS at 50.
The Fire Type event I hope is a chance to get a great BFS Charmander or Vulpix, or a better BFS Cyndaquil that has Herbs instead of Ginger at 30.
Depending on how good of an Entei I get, this could really fix my Taupe Hollow team.

>>55843619
If you go to Greengrass, you won't get to encounter any Arcanine. The difference then is in the variety of non-fire types you can encounter between Greengrass and Taupe Hollow.
Greengrass has the widest variety, whereas Taupe Hollow can feel pretty narrow in comparison.

The Fire Type Event only boosts the chances of encountering fire types (which are all Snoozing), it does not guarantee that you will get fire type berries as Snorlax's favourite if you go to Greengrass.
So, with the goal of prepping fire types for the two-week Entei event at Greengrass starting May 20th, you might have a better time going to Taupe Hollow.

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>shiny snorlax 2 times in a row
genuinely what are the odds?

>>55843516
This meme was never funny. If you have a job and can’t sleep 8h you either gotta improve your life fundamentally or change jobs.

>>55843044
Yikes.

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>>55842959
>>55843030
Same pretty much. Never saw a fire type even once nor anyyhing from Dugtrio family. Managed to finally seen one of these things though, two even.

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>>55843903
Used up a lot of resources I stocked up on from end of last month. Quite a few poke and great biscuits. Got a crit from a great ball when it had 5 bars left. Not sure this was worth so many resources. But it will probably help me reach master 2 easier. Last week was a struggle to get there.

>>55843516
Do you really have to post this shitty meme every single thread?

>>55843903
No sweat, we got there in time for drinks and desserts. On taupe.

>>55843878
>>55843966
it bemuses me, and i'm sure i miss a thread or two

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I have 2 BFS eevee, both are main skill chance down, and the other one is worse than this. Should I make it a flareon or try to find a better one

>>55844011
It could be decent specifically for the event, if you manage to get it to lv30, as it will help gather a decent amount of milk for recipes like Dream Eater Butter Curry.
Outside of the event it will be pretty underwhelming, all things considered.

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>>55844053
This is my team right now, I'd swap out dugtrio once it pops out a leek. I'm just kinda interested in having the potential to increase my pot size with 2 charizards collecting ingredients all day. And it pretty much would just be for the event anyway

>>55843903
Oh weird, I got one of those and a golem too on the last day.

>>55844350
Not that weird considering they're "high value" pokemon that you typically don't see earlier in the week due to their higher requirements. I managed an Onix, Steelix, and Golem, but this was one of the rare times I didn't actually get a 4* style.

>>55843516
I manage to make it work despite working twelve hour shifts. Or at least I try.

Are any of the fire type week bundles any good? Im f2p and need a fire stone for a growlith and have 1450 gems. Not sure if i should save

>>55845316
I picked up the M bundle (600 gems) for the fire stone and whatever else it included.

>>55845316
>Bundle S [250 Diamonds]:
>Poke Biscuit x5
>Cyndaquil Incense x1

>Bundle M [600 Diamonds]:
>Poke Biscuit x10
>Eevee Incense x1
>Fire Stone x1

>Bundle L [1,500 Diamonds]:
>Great Biscuit x8
>Vulpix Incense x1
>Charmander Incense x1
>Growlithe Incense x1
>Fire-Type Candy S x10
>Dream Cluster S x6

Bundle M is OK. Main takeaway is indeed the Fire Stone, which for f2p is equivalent to 2 weeks(!) of Sleep Points from the exchange. The biscuits in the pack are priced the same as the regular Diamond shop, so no discount there.

Keep in mind we'll very likely be able to exchange Entei Manes for a Fire Stone during the event as well, since Raikou also had one on offer.

Don't forget to set a Recovery Incense tonight for the use 7 incenses task.
The reward is 5 Fire Type Candy S.

Also consider saving your Pokémon incenses for the Entei event. Every Pokémon encounter awards mane samples, with fire types awarding more.

>>55845426
I thought about exchanging one during the entei event, but considering that i spent all my points on incense and candies with barely any to spare during the last event, i doubt ill have much left over to pick up a fire stone. Would much rather spend the event points on a good entei if possible. I guess I'll pick up the M gem bundle, thanks anons

>>55846293
They announced that we will get more manes and that the shop will be cheaper this time around, but I guess it's fine since Ninetales is also pretty good and also requires a fire stone anyway.

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Do you even have anything to dump your candy and shards into at this point?
I've been at Taupe for several weeks and haven't found any Fire types, so hopefully I'll see some this week at least. I'm just going to start charging up this shiny Bellsprout so that I can have a consistent potato farmer.

So what's the play, everyone just sleeping in a cave this week?

>>55847955
yes using a vulpix incense tonight and hope I get a decent one to feed candies to

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I used a vulpix incense my first night and got 3, caught 2. 2 were hungry which made it easy

1 has nice enough subskills, but is also unusable due to the order. it's +xp -skill so with sleep xp I'd probably just go with it if BFS was like 50, but alas

Also +xp nature one is two levels higher than the other one, which I wasn't aware happened

>>55847045
I'm unlocking Slowpoke Tails and nothing is gonna stop me, even desert week.
>>55845687
I actually did set one but for unrelated reasons. Had 6; now have 5.
It didn’t count towards my progress and despite my lackluster sleep my team is fully healed and it consumed one incense. I even tried to reset in every possible way but that didn’t work.

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>vulpix gets full after one daily biscuit and one regular

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Yay :3

>>55843516
Agreed, I'm in vacation and can finally play, it's fun when tour basic survival is no longer are stake :3

Got lucky and had balanced sleep, encountered a Vulpix this morning.
Got very unlucky and it was Modest, the worst possible nature for a berry specialist.

>>55847045
I've got a BFS Pupitar that's very close to evolving.
It was level 38 prior to being given 100 boosted candies, now it's level 40 and only four good sleeps away from hitting level 41, so my remaining handy candy will go towards its lofty 100 candy evolution.

That leaves 250 boosted candies to give to whatever else.
They'll probably end up going into my Gengar or Bewear, who both have fantastic ingredient/subskill spreads and can unlock BFS at 50. As long as I don't have to spend handy candy to do it since my Pupitar needs them to evolve.

>>55848084
Weird, it counted using my incense just fine.
I set my incense earlier in the day so I don't forget to set it at night, maybe there's an issue with setting incense immediately before starting sleep tracking. It also might not count incense usage from the previous week if you had used one on Sunday night hoping it would count for this week's mission.

>>55843516
i got a job and pogo++ makes it easy to play this game. drawing and listening to music while I "sleep"

>>55848286
That's why I always start off with regular biscuits, then give the daily after I know I can get it.
Otherwise there's a chance that it's hungry next time it shows up with only 1 pip left, and that feels like a real waste.

>>55848385
>Got lucky and had balanced sleep
Anon... please read the news about events

>>55848377
Lucky bastard. Stats any good?

>>55848477
Idiot, it still measures your sleep style based on the sleep tracking. The event doesn't force your sleep style to be balanced.

When there are events that let you encounter Pokémon outside of your measured sleep style, it is still weighed towards your style with a few spawns ignoring it.

>>55848619
>it still measures your sleep style based on the sleep tracking
never said it didn't
>The event doesn't force your sleep style to be balanced
never said it did
>Idiot
maybe you, fighting against your strawmen

>>55848619
>>55848628
Can't we all just get along and enjoy this sleep game without trying to sperg and minmax and argue trivial shit. I hope both of you saw some of your favorite mons after waking up.

>>55848901
Well, I was thinking about what ingredients I'd like to see added in updates.
I'd really like to see rice added in, there's all sorts of dishes you can make with rice from the obvious with curries, riceboxes for salads, to desserts like mochi.

>>55848901
I passed out before tracking sleep and woke up at 4:36.

>>55848485
Nope

>>55848901
Not those anons, but my favorite pokemon aren't in the game yet :c
Zubat line when?

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>two vulpix
>Both have berry finder S... at 75
>bad natures
>and then this bastard that angers me

>>55849454
how did you get 3 pokemon in one night! think on the bright side, if you keep up this pace the whole week, youre bound to get a shit ton of fire types and something S tier.

>>55849683
Nta but I got 3 today too. 2 were hungry and I had a great biscuit. low on poke biscuits now after this and the onyx the other day.

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>>55843032
Are either of these worth dumping fire candies into or should I keep holding out? Don't want to miss out on using candy bonus week.

>>55849683
i got 3 too
1 shiny 1 hungry and 2 growlithe so when one was full i kept feeding the other

Game really needs to stop having these "guaranteed hungry" events, but then only giving it to random stage 2 pokemon.

>>55849776
Right is better by a large margin just by having Berry Finding, but you can always just keep waiting until later in the week. Do you even have 50 candies to blow on it already?

>>55849683
One was hungry, used two greats on the other two and thankfully they didn't get full after the first poke used after.

>>55849342
Mine isn't either. Muk line is my favorite but zubat is nice too. Hopefully we will get our favorites one day. Snover was nice since Abomasnow is one of my favorite gen 4.

No Vulpix today, just a shitty Growlithe.

>>55849859
Not op, but wouldnt you want to start leveling up the first A+ tier one you find in order to take advantage of the candy boost going on this week? Like sure I *might* find a slightly better build on friday or whatever, but by then my original catch is already up like 20 levels. Or you might not find anything better and then youve lost out on the benefits of already having a usable pokemon already leveled. Opportunity cost.

>>55851194
I don't find the candy boost to be all that important. Sure, you can dump the equivalent of up to 700 candies into a pokemon with it (provided you have 350 candies in the first place), but the game is so slow that I'd rather have something I'd actually be happy to level up rather than immediately boost the first half-decent thing I found. Especially for a new pokemon, jumping the wagon means you're spending a lot of your pokemon candies that are even more limited than normal. You only really want to boost a pokemon up to level 30, and that might take 3-4 days of your boosted candy allotment, so there's no harm in waiting until at least midway through the event.

>>55851374
I appreciate this response, those are definitely some good points. I guess it really is more about maximizing the long term benefits over a payout of potentially months.
I partially wrote that comment to try and rationalize investing and evolving my BFS yet neutral nature growlithe but what's done is done lol. I'll try out waiting a little longer for an S tier vulpix this time.

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I've got 31 open slots, everybody's welcome!
7757-2474-2490

>>55851422
https://youtu.be/xfwnxEixT2g?si=xXfYm4jlmtPWv3fn

>>55851374
The candy boost events are spread out enough that you're likely to have gotten Pokémon that justify the boost.
Like you say they're best used on Pokémon that have yet to hit 30 due to the sharp rise in dream shard costs, but I'd argue you can justify it in the late game if you're rank 55, and all your research EXP is being converted to dream shards.

The justification is species of Pokémon which have more challenging evolution requirements like Larvitar and Dratini, and making your limited candy go further.

I used 100 boosted candies to get my Pupitar up to level 40, the rest of my time at Taupe Hollow this week will get it to level 41, then I can finally evolve it using 100 candy from my handy candy stash.
As doing so changes it to a Snowdrop Tundra specialist, I'll wait until I'm done at Taupe Hollow and have a use 250+ candies mission.

>>55851750
I keep waiting for a good pseudo to use these boost on and I keep not finding any. I'm just using it to level some keepers I've found like a very good cleffa and snover. Might not use them outside of beach and tundra but they are neat.

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1st Vulpix. Do we think it's usable?

>>55852300
ing up is fine because corn's a good ingredient anyways but you got the rest of the week to fish for a more minmaxed one if you want

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>>55852300
Better than my two.

>>55852300
want to trade?
>>55849776

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Caught these 2 Growlithe today and then found out they're brothers.

>>55852433
good nature. jeeze very similar. I think I like right one more

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>>55852433
Damn and I thought my twins were similar. Why is it always Growlithe?

>>55853058
left for sure

I am so close to slowpoke tails… so close.

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It’s getting pretty foxy around here.

>>55853493
>Ninetales
>Wrong! This person is deceased.

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Are any of these good?

>>55853975
top left is usable, top right has ooft nature, real ooft time on the nature and where bfs is on bottom left, bottom right is good

>>55843778
Is there actually any benefit to this, or just the smallest of tingles seeing it?

>2 Cyndaquil
>Both are total ass
Come on now game.

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Vulpix gods have blessed me this day

>>55854190
It's only blessed if it's female

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>get dozing sleep naturally
>these are the spawns

Epic game.

>>55854554
I meant snoozing, not dozing. Which is why it's especially annoying.

>Hasn’t gotten a single worthwhile thing to level up since the last candy boost event

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>>55854678
I did this guy while waiting on finding a good fire type. Should help me get master 2 for a cindaquil incense. After this guy I'll either do an exp up bellsprout for potatoes or a decent gasly I found.

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Is it worth leveling this guy to help with taupe hollow?

>>55854828
If you’re still needing Taupe mons I’d go for it, my Golem’s pretty handy

>>55855132
Post it.

>>55854828
It's a good fit for Taupe Hollow, that has a great ingredient spread and BFS is always great.

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Got a BFS Charmander this morning.
Whilst it doesn't have much else going for it, it turns out that as a level 30 Charizard, it outperforms my current level 39 Charizard by quite a lot (it's maximum sausages, but modest).

It also turns out that I have more than enough candy with the mini candy boost to get it ready and fully evolved, so nice.

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>>55855163

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>>55854828
I decided to do the same with a similar Geodude I had laying around, thinking I wouldn't use it.
For most ingredient Pokemon, BFS is less preferred over Ingredient Finder M just because you actually want them to pick up ingredients. And then provided they do get BFS, you'd want them to have Inventory Up so that it's harder for them to hit a wall by only picking up berries. But that's mainly for overnighting where your can't just pick up what they're carrying before they fill up.

>>55855258
Yours is way better. How do we trade?

>>55855264
>BFS is less preferred over Ingredient Finder M
But wouldn't ingredient specialist with BFS vastly out perform those without it?

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>>55855295
Interestingly enough, no. At least not in Golem's case, though the gap widens as levels grow due to berry power outpacing the number and strength of ingredients it's able to get. Of course the calculator doesn't take into account individual recipe levels, which is its own multiplier.

Still no Vulpix or even Cyndaquil today.

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>>55856438
>Still no Vulpix or even Cyndaquil today.

>>55855264
I also have a BFS Golem, and one thing you have to consider is that while, yes, a BFS Golem should provide more overall strenght, that might not be very relevant at all.
For example, I already have 4 other mons that are stronger at Taupe than my Golem (plus the wiggly for healing). This means that I'll usually only put Golem in the team if I'm looking specifically for Basedbeans/Potatoes, and in that role, my Golem performs a bit worse than one that is focused more on ingredient finding subskills.

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>>55855479
Unclear, but did you forget to set the map's favourite berries?
Left pair is no favourite leppa berries, right pair is Taupe Hollow.

This is a big factor in why I decided to invest into a new BFS Charmander when I already have a level 39 Charizard.

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What's the difference between these candies and is there anything special next week?

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>>55857371
Top is vulpix candy and bottom is new type specific candy

>>55857409
So 5 Fire Candies = 20 of one pokemon's candy, right?

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>>55856812
This makes me wonder if this shitty nature Growlithe (>>55849454) might do better than than this Arcanine overall.
On one hand, ass nature
On the other hand, more value out of when he inevitably procs on himself.

>>55857881
I think for skill specialists it's a little different

>>55857881
>>55858147
Yeah, ingredients aren't as strong for skill-types as they're only capable of gathering half as much per help by comparison. Which is also why I consider Berry Finder to be almost required for many skill-focused Pokemon. Unless it has an exceptionally high trigger rate, most are just plain better off going for berries over their own skill despite their supposed focus.

>>55857765
Yes, a Fire Type Candy S can be exchanged for 4 candies for fire type Pokémon.

You're also allowed to use them on Eevee because it can evolve into Flareon, so you can actually use them for the whole Eevee family as a result.

I don't think Fire Type Candy M or L has been introduced yet.

>>55858834
Can you actually use it on Eevee? I thought it was the contrary, as it only works on Fire types. So although you could use it on Flareon and get Eevee candies out of it, you do require the Flareon first.

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Is it worth evolving him even with this nature?

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is this a good jolteon for the entei event?

>>55859126
Absolutely worth it. If you don't want any ingredients, just leave its inventory full and it will mass-produce berries (Typhlosion's skill is good but not that massive that you can't let its inventory sit at full for a bit).

>>55859174
Depends on the rest of your team. If you don't have a lot of fire types already, then sure, any BFS mon is good.

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it do be like that sometime

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>>55848377
Another! Yay :3

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>>55859126
Yes
>>55859174
>is this a good jolteon for the entei event
Which Jolteon is better and which gets turned to candy?

>>55859790
that growlithe is better

>>55859126
As far as natures go, that's pretty bad, but the positives of its skills far outweigh the negatives. Ultimately Ingredient up nature and Ingredient Finder S are not THAT significant individually, it's just that in addition to energy down it's knocked down quite a few pegs from the tippy-top. Of course it's still head and shoulders above most other permutations you could have gotten.

Any opinions on the best team builds, main/sub skills and natures? I run one team energy, prefer help assist or ingredients for other mains, then skill and berry subs, then brave/sassy or the recovery down versions of those. Not sure if any of that's even close to optimal.

>>55860263
I swap my roster depending on fav berries and if I need ingredients. And if I have too much or too little energy. If I have enough ingredients I'll swap to more berry helpers. If not then I'll swap out weakest berry helper for the ingredient specialist that I need. If I can go for a while without focusing on ingredients then I'll put 4 berry helpers with a healer

>>55860263
https://youtu.be/LkcTM3i0YwU?si=bOZVDVCWmZSAdy1V
This explains it pretty well. Some will get upset for "shilling" but won't bother to explain all of this shit to you then complain when you ask if something is good or not.

>>55860263
As long as you can make a recipe and fill the pot each time, while ingredients are the most consistent since they don't care about preferred berries, but provide the lowest power overall.

Charge Strength M skill pokemon (and Golduck) on the other hand are capable of providing the most power regardless of area since they don't care about berries either, but rather pure skill power. Though those are probably the hardest to find good rolls of and are expensive since you need to max out their main skill levels.

Berries can also provide very high overall power, but require a lot of investment as their gains are based on pokemon level.

And then usually you slot in an energy pokemon to help supply your team with extended helping power.

The game is all RNG, so listing out "best" sets doesn't really do anything. This game is all about making due with what you're dealt and how to best weigh what's worth over investing over what's not.

>>55860305
It's funny that you are the one consistently that fails to explain anything. Instead you would rather shill your video with literally no explanation.

>>55860305
again with that shit nigga
how many times do i have to tell you it's faster to read something than wait for a nigger to spew shit until they say the same thing

>>55860398
>how many times do i have to tell you it's faster to read something
You are selfish. You only care about things from your PoV. It may be quicker for you to read but do you think it's faster to type all that shit out or link to something else? You could also just turn up the speed.

>>55860442
>it's faster to type all that shit out or link to something else?
You are selfish. You only care about things from your PoV.

>>55860453
Ok type it out. Explain it. Don't miss any details.

>>55860278
alright, sounds good. havent done much active swapping but probably makes more sense to, especially at the start of the day. might swap one of my fires out for venusaur tomatoes so i can keep doing overheat salad this week.

>>55860305
watched it, seems pretty straightforward.

>>55860345
i thought some people were saying charge was the worst of the three ways to build snorlax strength awhile back. i actually like it because it's very straightforward, instant gratification, but never knew the numbers on it besides having a lucky ampharos roll with huge charge. was thinking berries were probably the strongest and maybe meals become stronger far in the future with enough levels.

>>55860472
tldw seems to be:
>berry finder and gold helping bonus are good regardless of specialization the pokemon is built for
>berry specialists want to prioritize helping speed, then skill level up (if f2p) or skill trigger or gold recovery/dream shard bonus depending on personal playstyle
>ingredient specialists want to roll 3 unique ingredients plus inventory/ingredient/helping speed subs
>skill specialists want skill level (f2p only), skill trigger, helping speed, inventory
>inventory is good for sunday night because sneaky snacking will rollover to next snorlax

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>>55858910
This turns out to be accurate.
Has to be used against a Flareon, not any member of the Eevee family.

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Man.

>>55860689
>>inventory is good for sunday night because sneaky snacking will rollover to next snorlax

That was old info anyway, I don't believe it does any longer.

Here's some points I would add on top of it.

>BFS on ingredient specialists is only beneficial if they are gathering a favourite berry
You can have BFS berry specialists that perform well even if they aren't gathering favourite berries.
This isn't true for ingredient specialists due to BFS causing them to hit carry capacity sooner.

>Inventory on skill specialists
This increases the chance of having a skill proc ready before they hit carry capacity, which is good for less frequent play or the time spent sleeping.

>Most "etc" gold skills
Ones that aren't BFS, Helping Bonus, and Sleep EXP Bonus can actually be detrimental.
A subskill slot taken by Research EXP Bonus, Dream Shard Bonus, or Energy Recovery Bonus, is one that didn't go to the important ones.
The 1.06x (stackable) bonus from Research EXP Bonus or Dream Shard Bonus, is likely to be lesser than the rewards from discovering better sleep styles as a result of better strength gains (and a high sleep score for higher drowsy power). An exception to that might be when using a legendary incense and getting a 2+ star sleep style.

>Ingredient diversity - or lack thereof
If you've got an ingredient specialist that gathers one thing, and just one thing, that's not a terrible thing.
They're suitable for switching into a team for when you've depleted a certain ingredient, then switching out for diverse ingredient gatherers to help consistently make the better dishes.
It's also about knowing when to have berry focused teams versus ingredient focused teams. Level 30+ berry specialists tend to keep your ingredient count level during the week.

>>55861037
Technically still quite good and very usable. Obviously the negative nature and Skill Triggers being locked away isn't great, but you can comfortably turn it into just about anything that isn't an Espeon or Sylveon.

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It happened. Time for Ingredient Magnet Bois.

What's the point of preparing for Entei week if you're gonna end up relying on Entei incense anyway..

>>55862202
Anon you might just be fucking stupid.

>>55862219
he's probably new and missed the raikou event so he doesn't know how it works. probably better to just ask.

obviously not him but I'm planning on using my incense asap with a master ball this time around.

>>55862202
To get the Entei incense and other meaningful items to help befriend the Entei (without resorting to a master biscuit), you need to earn mane samples.

The best way to earn those is to get a high strength rating and a high sleep score, for big drowsy power. You'll get more encounters, and more mane samples from rarer sleep styles.

The event guarantees that the Snorlax will favour Leppa berries gathered by fire types, and fire types also get bonuses like gathering 1 extra ingredient each time they gather one, and their skills both triggering more often and being higher level than normal.

This altogether means you want a full team of fire types to really make the most of the event. This'll ideally consist of a good Charizard, Typhlosion, Ninetales, Flareon, and Arcanine (that you'll probably substitute with Entei).

In addition, actually using the Entei incense will only spawn a 1 star sleep style, unless you actually get a really high Drowsy Power, which requires that you can really beef up your Snorlax during the week (and get a good night's sleep).
Finding a 2 or even 3 star sleep style for legendary Pokémon also happens to award a ton of research EXP and dream shards.

The best part of the effort is that you'll have a team ideal for going to Taupe Hollow afterwards. This wasn't true for Raikou because there's still no island with set Grepa berries for electric types.

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>>55862202
>>55862277
For reference, this is what it took to encounter rarer sleep styles for Raikou, and what they rewarded.

The minimum DP needed to encounter 2 star Raikou on Greengrass was 115m (plus a minimum rating of Master 13), which means having at least 1.15m Snorlax strength and getting 100 sleep score.
In practice though, you actually need a much higher Snorlax strength, because how the sleep style encounters work is they divide up your Drowsy Power across the up to 8/9/10 encounters you get.
Still not sure if this DP sharing applies to those spawned by incense, though.

In any case, the strategy is actually to use your legendary incense later in the week, rather than earlier.

By the way, players are also saving up Pokémon incense and Good Camp tickets for the Entei event.
Being able to add +1 or +2 Pokémon encounters on any given sleep means being able to earn more mane samples, and therefore get more rewards.
I haven't used my Vulpix or Cyndaquil incense this week for that reason.

Managed to find a Cyndaquil today. Still no Vulpix

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We got an update coming!

Here are the main points:
>Sleep EXP Bonus gauge previously only applied to level 55 Pokemon specifically.
>Now it applies to your max level as determined by your own Research Level. (So it could be under 55 now)

Persian:
Base help speed reduced from 50:00 to 46:40

Golduck:
Ingredient finding x1.2
Carry limit +3

Wobuffet:
Main skill chance x1.1
Carry limit +3

Lucario:
Base help speed reduced from 45:00 to 43:20

>>55863737
Never using skill mons unless it has ingredient magnet or berry magnet or e4e

>>55863765
BFS Lucario is a nice thing to have.
Golduck is actually a really good skill specialist but it requires checking the game really frequently and stuffing it with main skill seeds.

>>55863737
Did they just nerf my berry finding golduck?

>>55863972
It probably won't amount to anything because of the carry capacity boost.

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Foxy.

>>55864604
sus rock

>>55863765
These updates aren't for you minmax retards.

>>55863863
>BFS Lucario is a nice thing to have
No it isn't lol. No one who runs this gets high into masters.

>>55863765
I swear they need to be reworked.
Berry gameplay also needs to be nerfed.

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Only managed to walk away with 2 really bad cyndaquils

>>55865083
my cyndaquills always suck. They all have ingredient finding and speed down

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Ah finally! I got myself a Vul...pix

>>55865072
>skill triggers on a set timer
>skill always starts at lvl 2

>>55861353
Fun fact, I have 69 Eevees and haven't evolved any of them, any Eeveelutions I have were caught like that.

>>55865527
>>55861037
I have this >>55844011 evolved into a flareon, and it triggers 3-5 times a day on average at level 30. Sure it could be more, but it's better than 0-0 triggers.

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>>55843032
I Haven't gotten any great fire types so instead I pumped this guy up to be useful. Anyone else using candy boost on non fire types?

Predictions and hopes for the new water pokemon for suicune's event? I'm hoping feebas/Milotic

>>55865679
I'm guessing either Wooper or Magikarp

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>>55865679
Poliwag to have another Water stone/King's Rock user

>>55864991
Lucario is literally an end-game pokemon to have on your team.

>>55866049
>Lucario is literally an end-game pokemon to have on your team.
Does anyone here who gets the biggest snorlax powers, use him?

>>55866049
in what way? dreamshard magnet is still terrible even if you max its level. Most people I see who get high lax power and aren't just buying 1000s of whistles over and over again usually use meals and the pot skill + good camp ticket.
Berry finding makes it usable and not much else. Still not sure why they made a pokemon with such an autistic fanbase so terrible

>>55865527
and how many of those are female?

>>55866244
18, including 2 shinies, the rest are male and non-shiny.

>>55865679
there's currently no water pokemon that aren't land-compatible
so any fish like goldeen is out

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>>55866242
I dunno. My Lucario was proccing 3-5 times a day at level 7 DSM. Getting the equivalent of several 3-star base evo mons worth of shards in a day is pretty nice. He got me over 50k shards last week. Definitely a keeper for weeks when I'm not aiming for high DP.

Stop minmaxing and use pokemon you like.

>>55866285
>My Lucario was proccing 3-5 times a day at level 7 DSM. Getting the equivalent of several 3-star base evo mons worth of shards in a day is pretty nice. He got me over 50k shards last week.

How much Snorlax power does it contribute.

>>55866212
>>55866242
At a certain point, higher Snorlax power barely matters aside from getting your landmark achievements. The biggest progression blocks end up being dream shards, as both your high level pokemon and pot upgrades will quickly deplete those reserves faster than anything else. I wouldn't surprised if the next pot upgrades will end up taking around 300k shards.

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Wow that lvl 25 skill is heartbreaking

>>55866367
Probably not much, I would rather that Lucario not have an ingredient down nature so he can help fill up the pot over BFS.
But his main job is to gather shards to help give mons cavities with their candies, and he is great at that.
like what this anon said >>55866383
when you reach the point where you're not even seeing a new sleep style in a week, gathering shards to help others level is a nice alternative.

>>55866383
This. I want to build up a couple shard mon soon and use "dead weeks" to both farm shards and area bonus so I can push further.
The time for more set up teams for each area is here, on top of trying to start preparing for the next island.

>>55866270
You are beating the odds anon.
:)

>>55866383
Let's suppose you've got a perfect Lucario, level 50, has level 7 main skill, is expected to trigger maybe 5 times a day.
A single Lucario would earn 9,000 Dream Shards per day (5x1800), a team of them would earn 45,000.

So, yeah that stands to be far better than what you may earn from sleep style research with high drowsy power, including when accounting for max research rank EXP conversion.
Even running two such Lucario would probably be better potential earnings, as the caveat is you're reducing your strength gains.

Of course, that's maybe 5 main skill seeds you're using per Lucario, for the ones lacking Skill Level Up subskills, and it takes a long time to evolve one too (which is still preferable to befriending an already evolved Lucario).

They really do need to rethink how befriending already evolved Pokémon is a serious disadvantage to skill specialists and ingredient specialists.
Like when I go to Lapis Lakeside, trying to find that BFS Dratini, and it keeps spawning Dragonair.

>>55866951
How many shards and time would it take to get 2 lucarios to 55?

>>55866343
They'll have to put some of those in first

>>55866974
Well, technically zero if you're willing to wait.
Though, let's say you befriend a level 15 Riolu.

From 15 to targets with no sleep EXP, you need:
>25 - 190 candy + 15k shards
>30 - 323 candy + 29k shards
>50 - 1043 candy + 172k shards
>55 - 1396 candy + 293k shards

With Mini Candy Boost in effect, it's instead
>25 - 95 candy + 29k shards
>30 - 162 candy + 58k shards
>50 - 522 candy + 345k shards
>55 - 698 candy + 586k shards
Note that even though the dream shard usage is 4x, the doubled EXP means you're only spending twice as many shards to hit the same targets.

A single perfect Lucario maybe giving you an intake of 63k dream shards per week helps a lot here, it really is an end-game helper for how absurd the costs will get later on.

>>55867232
That seems like a rather large investment.

>tap on pokemon to collect their drops
>can't get any ingredients because bag is full and dinner isn't for another 2 hours
>feed a full meal with 57 ingredients
>collect all remaining ingredients
>bag is already full again
They really need to increase the bag/pot sizes again.

>>55867413
Considering how many shards it can get, not really. And you only really need to get it to level 30 anyways. The real cost is the Main Skill Seeds.

>>55867915
Increasing bag capacity is a complete placebo if you're constantly producing more ingredients than you use.

>>55867915
Happens to me too, once I get too many of one, I just sell a bit for shards.

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Lads did I win the lotto? For reference its a shiny cyndaquil.

>>55867915
>>55868047
Likewise, I'm hitting ingredient capacity too quickly now, 57 cooking pot capacity isn't enough, and 600 ingredient bag space can be depleted quickly on a Sunday.

The best you can do is just go full berry specialist in these situations, or maybe run some Cooking Power-Up S users.

Ingredient bag capacity has its place, mainly to let you stockpile diverse ingredients on a down-week to get ready for a more important week.

>>55869060
It's no jackpot but that's still a fantastic find.
What's its ingredients though? Fiery herbs on 30 will make it even better, IMO ingredient finder natures on BFS berry specialists is actually not half bad.

>>55869129
Ginger, fiery herb, ginger. Good to know I've finally netted myself a useful shiny.

>>55869330
Fantastic stuff then, a reliable source of fiery herbs is great, lets you make some of the really good salads which is a weak link in my own Taupe Hollow team as my BFS Typhlosion is all ginger.

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Are either of these good and worth investing in?
I don't have a good fire type mon yet

>>55869381
The Brave one won't see any real benefit until it reaches level 50, and it'll take too long to get there.
The Hardy One really doesn't have much going for it either.

It looks like you're a pretty new player so I'd say just keep looking until you find "the one".
Don't invest in these two, you want to find one that's got lots of Ingredient Finder boosts, and valuable subskills at 10 and 25.
If you find a Berry Finding S Charmander, that is more than likely going to be the one you want to invest into.

>>55848286
>caught 2 of them
>both only has beans
REEEEEE

>>55869381
right is a better "for now" pokemon

>>55869442
Doesn’t sound to bad.

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best vulpix I've found so far. probably won't find better. Which one?

>>55870059
bfs is better, but xp down and not many boost days probably means that help bonus might work out better for entei week

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Two more gold skills and I would have named him Goldenboy.
Is he worth raising even when he's lacking BFS? I was thinking he'll make an adequate healer replacement for Taupe.

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Damn that's hot they knew what they were doing

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How's your week gone so far?
Mine has been rather poor. I'm pretty sure the Vulpix is the only one that was even hungry. Growlithe and Cyndaquil are already friendship level 10+ and the only berry pokemon with Berry Finding S @ 10 or 25 that I ever found was a Caterpie I got near the start of the game.

>>55871065
Pretty meh, but I already have BFS Cyndaquil, Charizard and Arcanine, so I'm only looking for Vulpix. I think I've caught like 6 so far and none of them were any good.

>>55870059
Left. Berry Finding is just such a huge skill in terms of overall power.

>>55870516
Those skills aren't really helping it despite supposedly being "rare". Even with a max Skill Trigger build, Ninetales isn't going to be anywhere near consistent enough compared to an actual E4E pokemon. You can probably get 1-3 activations at most, giving the energy to a random pokemon. But for a pokemon to be a good battery, they also need to be able to sustain themselves just so that they can continue dishing out energy throughout the day.

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Only 2 decent fire types I got. Which one do I invest in? Kind of wondering if I should just use the candy boost to power level a bellsprout with exp up and potatoes to 30. Don't have fire stones anyway

>>55873770
You're going to have a Fire Stone available from the Entei event later in the month. Also the current M bundle in the diamond shop also has a Fire Stone in it as a decent deal.

Both are good, though I'd say the Growlithe is better overall as far as Growlithes go. But the Vulpix is good too. The Vulpix will actually probably put out more power overall if you just placed them head to head.

I've run out of things to pump up, so I'm just going to get started on a Dratini that I swore I would hold onto until I got one with BFS @ likely 10 if not 25. And it's been at least 3 weeks on Taupe without a fire pokemon to train up. We'll see if that changes before the week is finally over.

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>>55873825
I'd say that if you're going to run a full fire team featuring Entei, that Growlithe/Arcanine is going to get shafted.

A team will probably consist of Entei, Charizard, Typhlosion, Ninetales, Flareon.
Arcanine's ingredients overlap with Charizard and Typhlosion, and its main skill isn't that impressive compared to what Flareon's Cooking Power-Up S can do for you during the week.

If you're only getting one fire stone, Ninetales gets priority, but then Flareon needs one too. This late in the game you probably already have a Flareon though.

That's kinda just how the game rolls though, you might already have a perfectly good Arcanine and can't find a good Vulpix, since it's such a new addition.

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My finds from recently and this week. I still have Sunday but I doubt that I can find anything decent.
>foxes
One can make it
>salad
Big lad needs a brother. I got nothing for LL otherwise.
>rest
Usable? The bug is unfortunate desu.

>>55874590
Oh and an added thought.
Flareon's gonna be vital to Entei week.
With all fire types gathering +1 ingredient, and having +1/+3 main skill level for the 1st/2nd week, you're gonna need a way to use up the excess ingredients you'll be gathering.

For reference:
>Ingredient Magnet S
>Lv. 1: 6 ingredients
>Lv. 2: 8 ingredients
>Lv. 3: 11 ingredients
>Lv. 4: 14 ingredients
>Lv. 5: 17 ingredients
>Lv. 6: 21 ingredients

>Cooking Power-Up S
>Lv. 1: +7 pot room
>Lv. 2: +10 pot room
>Lv. 3: +12 pot room
>Lv. 4: +17 pot room
>Lv. 5: +22 pot room
>Lv. 6: +26 pot room

A typical Charizard with lv. 3 main skill is going to be gathering 14 ingredients one week, then 21 ingredients the next.
A typical Flareon with lv. 2 main skill is going to be added +12 pot room one week, then +22 pot room the next.

>not one decent vulpix
>not one eevee suited for Flareon

>>55875153
Same, just can't get a good Vulpix.

I got a good BFS Charmander at least.
He's level 31 now thanks to the candy boost, and he'll be a Charizard next week when I (probably) get a use 262 candies task.
Also evolving my BFS Pupitar into Tyranitar finally, so that'll be 220 of the candies I need to use.

>>55843032
Do I need to play pokemon go to play this?

>>55875451
No, you can play Sleep without playing Go at all.

If you get the Go Plus+ accessory, you can use it strictly as a sleep tracker.
It unlocks a sleeping cap Pikachu that pitches in a few extra Grepa berries, Apples, and Cacao, it does help.

There's a small daily bonus if you also play Go and sync some play data though.
I must stress small, you can get up to 14 bonus Grepa berries if you spin up to 32 Poké Stops using the Go Plus+'s auto-spinner function in Pokémon Go.
It's such a trivial bonus that it won't make an impact.

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I hit master rank 2 thanks to this. Is there any point in wasting more ingredients to hit mr3? My ingredients are low besides the stuff for this meal. Next week I'm just going to stock up on ingredients for Entei event.

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Finally got a passable Typhlosion at least.
Still nothing especially good for a Flareon, but i may just take a "meh" option.
And shit for Vulpix.

>>55875643
Wowza, nice Typhlosion. I still have Sunday night, but I didn't even catch one vulpix, although I also only saw the one to begin with.I spent the night out of town last night and only got 76 drowsy points so I squandered my highest Taupe strength modifier I've had so far.

>>55875514
It's always worth pushing your Snorlax's strength further, even if you can't hit another ranking milestone. This is more relevant when you're pushing the higher master ranks, as the gaps between them get much bigger.

Higher strength multiplied by good sleep score results in higher drowsy power.
Higher drowsy powers produce rarer sleep style encounters, which rewards more research EXP and dream shards.

Cutting your strength gains short at the end of the week means fewer rewards, and you won't progress your research rank or Pokémon's strength as much as you could otherwise.

If you're looking to conserve ingredients, just make the minimum for a recipe and don't skip meals.
If you've got excess ingredient tickets, redeem them.

To be honest, I don't think you'll need to stockpile ingredients because fire types, especially the Charmander family, are going to be gathering an assload of ingredients during the Entei event.
I explained over in >>55875051 but the Entei event bonuses will mean you'll probably get more ingredients than you can use if you have fire types but lack a Flareon.

>>55875643
Very nice Typhlosion indeed, especially once it hits 50.

>>55875709
Yeah but I could barely hit master rank 2 last week and used more berry specialists and did the same this week. my ingredients are pretty depleted right now. I only have about 100 sleep sessions

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>>55875730
Area bonus and recipe levels is a big factor in progress.
Meals you cook now are an investment towards the next time you make that meal, the effect is a lot larger than you may realise, with meals doubling in strength at level 41 (which isn't that hard to reach).

If you've only done 100 sleep sessions, that probably means your combined area bonus across all maps is less than 100%.
https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/5887/
> If all of a user’s area bonuses add up to less than 100%, then the researcher’s area bonus will increase by 10% each week.
Note: This also applies to researchers whose Novice Researcher Bonus period has already ended; if all of your area bonuses add up to less than 100%, your area bonus will increase by 10% each week.

That bonus won't be in effect on Monday, but you'll probably get to enjoy an extra area bonus boost after next week.
I suggest putting that area bonus into Greengrass so you can maximise it for the Entei event. If you're already at the maximum map bonus for your current sleep style goals, maybe Taupe Hollow instead because of Entei's usefulness.

>>55876066
I think I'll go back to TP and hope to see fire types as I didn’t find a decent cynda yet. Probably will try to save up on poke biscuits too.

>>55876151
If you're lacking good fire types, yeah going back to Taupe Hollow is probably better.
You can actually encounter nearly every fire type at Greengrass (excluding Arcanine), but the pool of snoozing encounters is much larger at Greengrass.

Keep in mind that you can only encounter fire types if you get snoozing (or balanced) sleep.

>>55876461
I wish there was a generic fire incense

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Final nap of the week gave me this cyndaquil, definitely gonna reinvest in this over my just bfs at level 10 typhlosion or my helping speed + bfs at 50 quilava

>>55876810
Type incenses is a nice idea, actually.

One Pokémon incense a week is all we get, though. That, and the ones they put in event missions or event bundles that cost diamonds.

>fire week almost over
>only one usable fire type caught
Well I guess I won't burn master balls on entei like I did on raikou. I only have one decent fire type and it will feel like a waste so I'll save for suicune.

>>55877764
If you play smart, you can get at least three Entei without using a master biscuit.
I had some back luck with feeding Raikou last time, and I was still able to befriend three with all of the incenses you are allowed to redeem (since they're finite).

>Redeem a good camp ticket
>Go premium / use trial if you haven't yet
>Use Pokémon Incenses to increase mane samples earned
>Use an E-Z Travel Ticket if you get a bad roll on your Greengrass Snorlax
>Use Entei incense later in the week to promote higher sleep style encounters; they reward more mane samples, research EXP, and dream shards
>Save an Entei incense for the last day of the event (second Sunday), which has a 1.5x Drowsy Power bonus for better odds of getting a 2 or 3 star sleep style

We also have a Good Sleep event overlapping the first week of the Entei event.
>— Night of the Full Moon (May 23) —
>Drowsy Power ×2
>Pokémon Sleep EXP ×3
>Bonus Sleep Points +1,000

>— Other Days (May 22 and 24) —
>Drowsy Power ×1.5
>Pokémon Sleep EXP ×2
>Bonus Sleep Points +500

What's everyone's plan for next week? Wondering if I should keep trying on Taupe before the event.

>>55877851
Staying at Taupe in hopes of a Vulpix or a decent Eevee to make a Flareon

>>55877918
Honestly, same. A BFS Cyndaquil would be cool too, but honestly my Charizard finds lots of ingredients and berries anyway. I just hope I get Salads instead of fucking Desserts again.

>>55877851
well i ended up with a bfs vulpix which was the main thing i wanted out of this week so i'm undecided on if i want to go to lapis to keep searching for a better stufful and grind dratini candies or if i wanna go to snowdrop as my bonus there is only at 5% and i'm 7 sleep styles away from pot upgrade.

>>55877851
Staying in Taupe. I might hit M8 if I get a couple lucky extra tasty rolls next week, which would be a new best.

>>55879010
I had 0 crits this week, with Desserts on Taupe. I'm hoping for Salads next week for a better score.

>>55879014
I got 4 in a row (Sat Lunch + Dinner + Sun Breakfast + Lunch) last week miraculously after a 3 week dry streak. I think I got one on Wednesday this week.

>>55877851
Probably just staying on Taupe despite the odds of me being prepared at all for the Entei event being minimal, given my luck. Same thing happened for Raikou where I came out of both Electric week and the Raikou event without any Electric types worth training up. I'm going to be at 50% area bonus once this week finishes out, without a single berry type worth any real consideration.

>>55877851
Currently staying on Taupe, it will probably be the last time I go there for a while.
Area bonus hit 50%, my BFS Charizard is ready to go, my BFS Pupitar will be evolved into a Tyranitar at the end of the week for the use 262 candies mission, and no longer be a Taupe Hollow specialist.

I still need a good Vulpix, the one I got this morning was BFS@75.

After the two-week Entei event at Greengrass, I'm going to Snowdrop Tundra for the first time. Literally never been there and my Tyranitar will be raring to go.

current victreebel on the left, which of the 2 of these are worth reinvesting in if either?

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>>55879662
forgot pic ffs

I take it back, Ninetales is not too bad. It triggers energy cheer a lot more than I expected. Now that energy cheer is buffed I could see using ninetales as your energy cleric, especially if you get one with berry finder and skill trigger s/m.

no event this week?
should I go to taupe for leveling up the area bonus then?

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Any of these decent enough to invest for the Entei event?
At least for now

>>55879910
not really, arcanine really wants berry finding since it's a skill pokemon

>>55879910
one on the right for sure. especially with sub skill seed.
>>55879938
you are a retard. Skill pokemon want Skill up and main skill chance up or speed up

Is the team energy recovery subskill thing ever going to get buffed or does it even currently have a use? Got a cyndaquil and gastly this morning with it at level 10

>>55879945
in what world does skill arcanine without berry finder help you?
even with a fast gathering speed, arcanine is still inferior to a fire berry pokemon and its ingredient gathering amounts are tiny
in concerns to team chemistry, how does extra helpful fit? If you're an ingredient player, you need one energy healer, and your ingredient gatherers, and a pot size pokemon. Who has room for a pokemon that ONCE in a while makes one of your other random pokemon give you a few extra ingredients/berries? The legendary beast's version of this is only good because it targets the whole (same type) party.
The point is, Arcanine needs to be able to do TWO things. It needs berry finding along with skill up and helping speed up. Otherwise it's just taking up space.
Frankly there's no reason to use it at all once Entei is released.

>>55879910
Personally I would skip Growlithe because of the fire stone investment and limited team size.

You wanna run Entei? You want Typhlosion, Charizard, Ninetales, Flareon, and Entei. No room for the greatly inferior Arcanine.
Extra Helpful is just a weak skill all around, there are very few main skills that justify running a skill specialist.

>>55879960
Energy Recovery Bonus is a dead-weight subskill because sleep energy recovery is capped at 100%.
If you're going to sleep with depleted energy something's not right. E4E users are very popular for a reason.
If you're getting a solid night's sleep anyway you'll likely hit 100% no problem.

There are two use cases for Energy Recovery Bonus though.
First is Pokémon with an energy recovery hindering nature, this will help offset that 0.88x penalty with a 1.14 energy multiplier.
Second is people who sleep twice a day as part of a normal routine (or min-maxing bullshit), where you're not sleeping for a whole 8 hours.

I do think Energy Recovery Bonus needs a serious buff though, it needs to raise the sleep energy cap by 10% per Pokémon with that subskill. Non-sleep energy recovery caps at 150%.

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Nature and ingredients could be a lot better but I’ll take a berry finding at level 10

>>55879972
I'm not talking about Arcanine. You said it's a skill mon so it needs bfs. I'm saying that skill mons generally need and want Skill up subskills and natures. Everything you are saying in this post now is about how weak arcanine is. I don't care about that.

The berry finder guy is a retard.
Stop pointlessly minmaxing a fucking sleep app.

>>55880002
Energy Recovery Bonus is absolutely NOT a dead weight skill
1. Not everyone runs an e4e mon on every team (or at all)
2. Not everyone can easily just get 8 and a half hours of sleep a day, nor do some people like to

Staying at Tqupe, hoping to get another good fire type. Mercifully, I at least didn't get Desserts again, and my Ninja curry this morning was a crit. Good sign for the start of a week.

>>55879972
You typed all that out to shit on arcanine, who's skill you always want to proc, when you're advocating using a skill pokemon when there are situations where you don't want that skill to proc

arcanine is faster, gathers more ingredients, and it's skill gets great value out of other, better pokemon. chances are very high you don't have 5 great mons, but 4 great ones and an arcanine that procs on occasion is similar

>>55880061
Pretty much the only thing really in favor of BFS on an Arcanine is to increase the value of when it procs on itself.
And even then it's not that big of a deal when it's at the cost of sheer procs.

>>55880083
>>55880061
Who cares? Skill mons want skill up.

>>55880083
well no, bfs is just best on everything cause everything gathers a lot of berries. you would ideally want a bfs arcanine, along with a bunch of skill stuff, and help bonus

but you can't just go "no bfs = unusable"

>>55880095
Do you think you want bfs, over skill ups and helping bonus on a Gardevoir?

>>55880095
I would rather have skill chance s and m alongside help speed m on the first three slots of an arcanine than help bonus or bfs.

>>55880130
>would rather have skill chance s and m alongside help speed m on the first three slots of an arcanine than help bonus or bfs.
Why? helping bonus is 25% more speed

>>55880140
Helping bonus is only "25%" spread across the whole team. I'd rather my skill focused mon getting more skill procs.

>>55880052
Well those conditions don't usually apply to me, so I'm gonna mulch 'em, yeah?
t. The anon who got 2x ER this morning

>>55880181
Ok? It not applying for you makes it a dead weight skill FOR YOU.
That still doesn't mean it's bad overall.

>>55880037
I assumed you weren't a retard and could put two and two together that I was talking about growlithe being a skill pokemon with a lackluster skill. Next time I won't assume. No shit skill pokemon want skill up, that's the bare minimum
>>55880048
just don't discuss the game at all?
>>55880061
maybe if you're a berry player, but arcanine just takes up space on an ingredient team. I know this because I tried it out (arcanine is one of my favorite pokemon) and it just wasn't useful
>>55880095
with a game as slow as this one with dreamshards at a premium, it can take a long time to get your Pokemon to a useable level.

>lackluster skill
Dumbass detected.

>>55880245
>I assumed you weren't a retard and could put two and two together that I was talking about growlithe being a skill pokemon with a lackluster skill. Next time I won't assume. No shit skill pokemon want skill up, that's the bare minimum
No. You're just a retard and no one agrees with you because your thinking isn't clear.
>>55879938
>arcanine really wants berry finding since it's a skill pokemon
These are your words. Not mine. Either you said the wrong thing or you were thinking incorrectly. Most people would see this as you reasoning out that skill mons need bfs. But what you really meant to say is that it's skill was lackluster and to make up for it it needs bfs to carry its own weight.

It's not my job to think for you or put your own thoughts into words for others to understand you clearly. You are welcome and it's on the house. Next time you'll have to pay me.

>Got fuck all during fire week
>Guess I'll stay at Taupe for sure
>Salads again
I really should try and find a good oil farmer or push Delibird to 30 so I can make spore or potato salad more consistently

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Finally! I got another Vul...pix

>>55879960
I wish it provided some tangible bonus if you hit your sleep cap, which the game is encouraging you to do anyways.

Dream Shard Bonus - You get Dream Shards every time you conduct sleep research.
Research EXP Bonus - If your research level is capped, it converts to extra Dream Shards.
Sleep EXP Bonus - If your Pokemon is capped, it will start to convert to Handy Candy.
Sleep Recovery Bonus - NOTHING unless you're conducting multiple sleeps per day, as sleep energy cannot exceed 100%

I don't necessarily think it should go over 100% energy, but it should play into some other aspect of the game. I don't really think it should track into an Energy Pillow like the Handy Candies do for EXP either, probably something more immediate. Like multiplying the value into Snorlax power or something.

>>55881851
The main perk of Energy Recovery Bonus is that it cancels out the penalty of Energy Recovery hindering natures.
Only for sleep though, they're still going to get less energy from all other sources including main skill effects.

Something like, overflow energy recovery giving bonus EXP on a per-Pokémon basis is the way to go I think.
Including without the Energy Recovery Bonus subskill.

E.g. If your Pokémon has 20 energy when they receive 100 or 114 energy from sleep, they then gain a bonus 20 or 34 EXP from the overflow.
This idea might make Recovery Incense an OP source of EXP gains though since it doubles sleep energy recovery.

reminder to feed your snorlax before maintenance

>>55882454
Here in the UK maintenance always seems to occur during my regular sleep hours.
Another perk of being a Go Plus+ user too, nothing to stop you from tracking sleep at all.

>>55882152
Yeah, tying an EXP bonus 1:1 with energy gain would easily be OP. Plus that's stepping on the toes of Sleep EXP Bonus. Even scaling off of a maximum 14 EXP bonus for a 100% sleep, that's the same as what Sleep EXP Bonus is doing.

>>55882591
Yeah, it's OP but it might also help with pacing issues in the late game.
It feels like a potential game mechanics revision the team might make months or years from now.

There's also the general issue that only 5 Pokémon get sleep EXP at all.
Actually, I just remembered that they're planning to introduce some sort of bonus for Pokémon you've spent a lot of hours sleep together with.

https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/5657/
>A feature to help you feel closer to the Pokémon you’ve befriended (the more sleep time you have spent together, the better the effects)
What this means is still unknown, but I'm hoping it's something like an accelerator or passive bonus for Pokémon that have reached sleeping milestones.
Even if it's something like an up to 10% Sleep EXP gains whilst boxed, it will help (similar to box energy recovery).

When you hit 55 is extra exp converted to shards at a 1:1 ratio? Just wondering since I forgot to record my shards last night and am afraid I'll forget again.

>>55883027
Yup, 100% of your research EXP turns into dream shards instead.
It's a really large boost to shards earnt, since as a rule of thumb you about a roughly 1:2 ratio of research EXP to dream shards.

It's a big help for the expensive cooking pot upgrades and levelling up high level Pokémon.

>>55883296
Nice. I've been struggling with shards for a while so that will be a nice boost. On a separate topic I really wish they added an in game notice got maintenance. I was waiting to make dinner to try to get some more filler food for the dish and now I miss it entirely.

>>55883311
They have in-game news pop up daily with advance warning, but yeah a more clear warning of maintenance periods would be nice.

TWO Ninja curry crits today, as opposed to no dessert crits yesterday. MUCH better week already.

maintenance is over

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Mohawk dog… I just realized that I should name him Mo'Dawg

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Oh, interesting... Don't really know when this would be useful though.

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I’ve gotten 2 shinies in one day before, but this is my first time getting 2 shinies within one sleep session. Both dogs too, plus got a regular growlithe. None of them are particular good except maybe the houndoom and now I hate that it’s not considered a fire type.

>>55884375
It’s useful for me. I accidentally hit the cap for max eevee candies a while back because I was hoarding them but went who knows how long without realizing it. That was before this update but would have saved me some candy. Plus just lets you easily see what you might want to use hard candies on without needing to go through so many menus.

>>55884400
Oh I take back what I said, I didn’t hit the eevee candy cap unless they raised it recently. Still thought it helps a lot to see the number you have all in one place and I would have upgraded eevees a lot sooner if I knew.

>>55884375
I get the feeling this is going to lead into candy conversion.
I'd imagine it would be a 3:1 rate or something.
Sure will be nice, I'd be able to get rid of these almost 1k Jigglypuff candy I'll never use.

>>55884385
>spoiler
agreed. I got a houndour and shiny growlithe in the same day and named them after my friend's dogs for use in Taupe, only to find there's no bonus for Dark berries.

Another maintenance and again my sleep last night is lost, because incompetent Pokemon company cnanot fix it due to the update. Screw it, not playing this game... app deleted. BYEEE

>>55884542
i stopped my sleep during maintenance and it worked out fine
i suggest the problem is a skill issue

>>55884542
Works on my (and everyone's) machine.

>>55884375
I haven't befriended an Onix yet, not even encountered one actually.
This let me know that I have 52 Onix candy.

>>55884375
>>55884400
>>55884408
what is max for species candy?

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Entei's theme
Do I hear Blackthorn City in this mix?
https://voca.ro/1eY68KJAnv0N

>>55885451
Sounds great, and yeah Raikou's theme was a remix of Ecruteak/Cianwood.
Entei's theme does seem to be a remix of Azalea/Blackthorn.

I wonder what we'll get for Suicune? I'm guessing Violet/Olivine. New Bark or Goldenrod don't seem as appropriate.

>>55885472
if i were chosing i'd pick national park
maybe gen 2 surf

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Sorry it took so long but I finally found some diglett for you.

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Mints when?

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>>55843032
How's your candy stores look?

>>55885451
>>55885472
The Ecruteak/Cianwood leitmotif is still predominant but I can hear the parts that would also remind us of Azalea/Blackthorn. It's a fun theme.

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>>55885795
Basically all mons I have maxed out, am still waiting for a good one, or have no plans to ever use.

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>>55885795
Please stop sending me Jigglypuff candies.

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Son of a bitch. Looks like I still have to keep rolling Growlithes.

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>>55886238
You can order them by which ones you have most or least of.
>>55886100
>>55885795
This is good to see so we know which things we need more candy of. I used a bunch of Gasly, totodile, and bulbasuar recently.

>Snoozing but 0 fire types

fuck's sake

>>55886295
>Slumbering but 3 geodudes and a gastly

>>55886238
Jigglypuff family is just very common too, for a number of reasons:
>Jigglypuff can be encountered on all maps
>Igglybuff can be encountered on all maps except Snowdrop Tundra
>Wigglytuff can be encountered on all maps except Snowdrop Tundra and Lapis Lakeside
>Igglybuff is a slumbering encounter, whilst Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff are snoozing encounters

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>>55886238
You are like little baby.

>>55886417
I send jiggly because I thought everyone wanted it

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>>55885795

>>55886480
Jiggly was a pretty safe choice near the beginning of the game, but I think there are enough lines worth building that you don't need to prioritize it anymore. Even having 1600 candies and 25-ish recruits, I still haven't got one worth training up. I decided to just invest in a decent shiny Sylveon instead.

>>55887758
Wiggly is also the least effective E4E user, but not by that significant of a margin.
Gardevoir strictly outclasses it, and Sylveon also out-performs it but needs more investment due to being a single evolution.

The key difference is how damn accessible Wiggly is. You need just the one moon stone at most, and to sleep 50 hours with the Iggly you want.
Ralts is pretty damn hard to find, and there's the added dilemma of finding a male one.

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witch primeape is better?

>>55888983
Id use the right until you find a berry finding at 10.

>>55888983
probably left. Are you catching fully evolved mons?

>>55889121
not normally, not unless its something i dont have yet. This most recent Primeape just happened to be hungry

Area bonus at 50% on Taupe and I've only just today researched a Quilava for the very first time.

>>55889668
I'm 4 times better than you, get on my level noob. Even have two (2) different sleep styles found

but quilava literally wasn't able to be found before fire week, so it's not that surprising that even with your bonus you haven't found many

>>55889748
Oh, I could have sworn Quilava was always available on Taupe. I thought it was only final evolutions that weren't available in certain areas, but I guess not. Bayleef has always been available on Lapis and Croconaw on Cyan... right?

>>55889859
maybe, i dont actually know anything that tracks the changes. maybe bulbapedia has an edit history, but i dont think their pages for sleep are detailed enough

ive thought about adding someplace to track changes on a spreadsheet somewhere, but havent

>>55890028
Bulbapedia is probably not the best source for this, Raenonx likely has a record of the game data changes with each update.

Otherwise yeah I recall it being mentioned in a previous thread that a bunch of sleep styles were made available on Taupe Hollow, and I think also Greengrass? It might've also been in an official news update on Pokémon Sleep's main site. It has the same news you can read in-app.

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>>55890140
>raenonx
>haven’t visited for a while
>see this
Yeah, totally good website

>>55890140
yeah i've looked at bulbapedia for sleep, and it was very barebones. I was mentioning it more for the wiki page history so you can go back and check what got added when

though on rechecking this is a decent list
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_availability_(Sleep)
and it actually answers >>55889859
bayleef wasn't available to be found in the wild until lapis lakeside release

so there's a diamond in the bulbapedia rough

>>55890156
That's happening because Brave's adblocker lists have blocked html-load.com, which is where Raenonx is loading its JS for the core site functionality.

That's 100% on you.

>>55890332
>it’s my fault for shitty website devs and greedy pigs
Lick boot some more why don’t you?

>>55890338
Look Raenonx is pretty shitty with how it stuffs itself full of ads and randomizes the IDs on literally every element to stifle adblockers, but its use of html-load.com here is just as a CDN for its JS files.

The is on you for using a shitty adblocker.

>>55890371
Instead of being a bootlicker you could just recommend another option.
Brave is the best all rounder and I am right about complaining because the website worked a month ago and all others still do.

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>>55885795
Guess which species I ignore completely.

>>55890464
Anon, the other dude isn't a fucking bootlicker just because he's explaining something that has nothing to do with how greedy the raenonx retard is, stop acting like a faggot.

>>55890607
>still no alternative
I’m minori so if we’re friends just remove me

>>55890675
Just open the page in Edge or in your phone, how are you so desperate for an alternative for a fucking browser?