Pod Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-11-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement>Official News:Magic: The Gathering publisher hires Pinkerton to seize leaked cards from YouTuber’s househttps://www.dicebreaker.com/categories/trading-card-game/news/magic-the-gathering-aftermath-youtube-prompts-pinkerton-investigation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is E D H?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>Previously:>>92737845>TQWhat's your favorite card that's currently on a ban list?
Free her.
:^)
Standard is just a billion megavalue decks and then UW control being a list of 40 silver bullets lol.
>>92745142it's funny how well she works with bowmasters, hope they print some good humans to cheat out in mh3
>>92745134golos
I mana weave at the end of every game in front of my opps just to trigger rulefags
>>92745134SHE DID NOTHING WRONGSTOP THE COMBO MENACEBRING HER BACK!!!!
Pioneer needed unbansKethis, Unseen HandWalking BallistaField of the DeadPioneer needed bansPic relatedAmaliaTreasure Cruise
UNBAN IT YOU COWARDS
>tqtechnically it's hogaak but I don't want him unbanned in modern, I just enjoy playing with him in legacy and vintage
>>92745470Until you realise it's a hand, it looks like a teddy bear swinging by its hands.
>>92745478
>>92745534
>>92745266Why do people care if you do it quickly and shuffle anyway? NOT manaweaving has the exact same issue of putting your deck in a nonrandom order.
>>92745583It's a waste of time.
please tell me I am not the only one
>>92745705What the fuck did you think the pointy "obviously a leg" bit on the left was, anon.
>>92745705You are the only one.
>>92745705If you know what Memnarch looks like you know what it's supposed to be.... You DO know what Memnarch looks like, right? You're not a fucking noob are you?
i think i missed memnarch in the thunder junction story xDDD
>>92745770He must have been just about the only character not in Thunder Junction.
>>92745134>TQVeil of Summer. Ban Wildgrowth Walker.
Wife
>>92745770Memnarch is still just the Mirari after Karn 'fixed' him.Now where the fuck is the Mirari? Unclear. Glissa hid it somewhere and then the story just sort of forgot it existed.
unban Veil of Summer in Pioneer you cowards
>>92746010She pulled a hotkinkyjo on it.
Still can't believe that this card ended up being a nothingburger.
>>92746073Really? I feel like everyone knew it wouldn't survive Lockdown, which was already a highly played card because of Boros Convoke. It's the sort of card I love, but it's a genuine free win for UW.
Give me one (1) good reason why land hate should be off limit.>But then they don't get to play the game!I don't get to play the game when my opponent temporary lockdowns me into wandering emperor into no more lies into sunfall, but they still print counterspells and boardwipes
>>92745266Don't you run the risk of milling yourself?
>>92746073Good. Once we get powercrept Nether Shadow people will cry about it.
>>92746159>>/edhg/
>>92746159It's not the same, you can untap and spend the same amount of mana if not more. Also you aren't missing out on colors, which is as backbreaking as the tempo.
>>92746172Yeah EDH players famouly play standard Azorius control
>>92746159I loved playing Star of Extinction memes in Standard. They should print more cards like it.
Newfag here, why aren't there formats based on price?>muh pauper but what about non-pauper?
>>92746268There's Penny Dreadful on MTGO, where cards can't cost over 0.02 tix, which is the MTGO currency. A paper version of something like that would probably be tricky to enforce.
>>92746284How often do they reevaluate what is legal? Is it daily?
>TQthis little buddy didn't do anything wrong
>>92746288>Card legality is set quarterly based on which cards are 2¢ or less at that time.
>>92746288After every standard set release it's reevaluated.
>>92746284> A paper version of something like that would probably be tricky to enforce.Probably not
>>92745411Lotus would play lurrus, amalia would play lurrus, rona combo might maybe play lurrus
>>92746472>Lotus would play lurrusin pioneer? what the hell would be the upside?
>TQUnban it you fucking cowards (even though 3rd impact will be so insanely strong that it won't be as brutal as it was...)
>>92746268Logistics.First is "how do you decide what price to follow"? Different sellers have different prices, and it can even change depending on your country.Second is how hard it is to build it: If you take pauper for example you can just say "take all cards with a black symbol", for standard "cards with those 12 symbols", Legacy are "whatever you like" and then a small banlist of ~10 cards; but for a format like that you'd have to give a new player a full list of the 10 000+ cards available.And then as another already pointed out, prices fluctuate with time so you'd have to check your deck every day/week/month.Format could work fine online, and that's why penny dreadful exist, but on paper it'd just be a pain to maintain
>>92746268>why aren't there formats based on price?this one was recently created but I have no interest in ithttps://www.dreadquarter.com/it's just pioneer with a price cap
>>92746268Just like, print the cards yourself
>>92746494Sure, but let's ban all planeshitters while we do that.
>mom watches a lot of lifetime original movies>like a lot of them>Dream about one that's MTG related where the psycho girl tries to ruin the innocent girl's life because she thoughtseized her boyfriend's wincon>Starts off by planting the other group members cards in her binder and deck boxes, escalates to self harm and blaming the girl, and cyberbullying the friend who didn't believe her into suicide
>>92746616It's ok to admit you like watching lifetime original movies.
>>92746303>t1 fetchland, underground sea, deathrite shaman>hold up dazeyeah, n-nothing wrong
in response I eat the cards
>>92746487Nta but you could recast grazers/fae/satyrs and probably mishra's desk even if it isn't like when lotus was a breach deck.
Why in the fuck are the motherfucking daily deals in arena locked?
>TQI can't wait for my situation to relax so I can go back to autistically spamming every thread with this. Free him.Anyway I found a random Kamigawa common when I was working on my EDH deck.. Akki Rockspeaker. Decided to build a storm deck because it looked cute.Might go for something Aeve based instead of grapeshot depending on MH3. Seems a bit too cheeky for modern especially since past in flames won't hit my creatures but akki rockspeaker is a neat little card.I'll post the list later when I get a better idea what I'm doing with it.
Paired up against some random Mono Red player. First off, I love smoking the Red decks lol because usually they get pissed and act like babies. This fella started out playing very aggressive but once I locked the game down you can see a change in his behavior - constant ropes, delaying and stalling lolThis is why I play control. Just to see these kids rage is payment enough lol.
>>92745134>What's your favorite card that's currently on a ban list?
>>92746632I'm not the one watching them but we have an open floor plan so when I'm baking it's not like I can avoid it
>>92745705Great, another one.
>>92746715What's wrong with that card, it looks underpowered?
>>92746747Multiverse ID 1488.
>>92746664that sounds much worse than the current build with lier and vizier
>>92745705It has a very gitaxian chin.
>>92746770Yup, I think so too. Lier is Yawgmoth's Will for that deck.
>Paired up against some random Mono Red player. First off, I love smoking the Red decks lol because usually they get pissed and act like babies. This fella started out playing very aggressive but once I locked the game down you can see a change in his behavior - constant ropes, delaying and stalling lol>This is why I play control. Just to see these kids rage is payment enough lol.
>>92745422Is now u$14.80 and still going down.
>>92746073scam roots
Reminder that noses unironically called for a ban on Wedding Announcement and Wandering Emperor of all things.
>>92745583If you manaweave and it does nothing, then it's sandbaggingIf you manaweave and it does something, then it's cheatingYou can start coping now
this should be mandatory in COMP REL tournaments
>>92746754I will go to the grave not believing that this was a coincidence.
>>92746908It wasn't, the artist is based, google his website.
>>92746655>tusken_raider.gif
>>92746936It doesn't even stop there. Every single aspect of this card from the catalogue number to the name to the art to the artist to what the card does and everything in between fits the same theme and points to the same thing. If just one of those details was different you could ALMOST say it was a coincidence, but it just fits too perfectly.>ACKSHULLY there's no way they would have kept track of where the card was alphabetically in this set and all the sets before it to do thatDo you realize how much KNOWN intentional math memes and anagram and word puzzle bullshit is in this game? Garfield is a mathematician, he was that kid in school that LITERALLY did math for fun. If anyone came up with this it was him or someone he brought in to work on the game.
how do you blow off steam after bad beats?
>>92747042I beat my wife.
>have a few 9/9 artifact toons on the battleground>other player takes pings from them instead of blocking them>didn't have instants or anything>they couldn't swing with everything either since I had more non attacking toonsFor what reason do people do this?
>>92747042fap
>>92747042I play mono red, play super aggressive then rope, delay and stall once they have the game locked down.
>>92747042It is what it is.
>>92747064When someone tells you it is what it is, always remind them that it also ain't what it ain't.
>>92747056>toons>battleground
>>92747056>Chump block 2 9/9s>Dead to an alpha strike next turn since i have no blockers
>>92747075Everyone starts somewhere.>>92747056The only life point that matters is the last one. They're saving their blockers for when you attack for lethal damage and hoping they draw an answer before that moment comes.
>>92747042I run through the game in my head again and try to find where I lost it. Helps me calm down and also helps me become a better player, plus when I realise where the mistake is, the loss feels less painful because I at least understand what went wrong.
I'm looking to get off of modern burn, maybe to UR slickshot since I already have 6 out of like the 10 fetches that deck wants. But doesn't it just have the same problems as burn? Scam taking your creatures and leaving you with just meaningless pump spells and domain having their absolute bullshit?
>>92747042I think it's normal and just keep playing. I also feel anger when I'm winning so it doesn't feel like a problem for me.
>>92747228Brace for MH3. Make decisions later.
>>92746609Everyone except my boy Creator Karn
>>92747228>Modern
>>92747228bro mh3 releases in a month, please don't spend money on a new deck yet
>>92747271Unplayable in current meta
>>92747228>>92747343trust in t0 affinity next month
>>92747373Bowmasters, the ban dodging Fury.
>>92747025It was a coincidence, but it lined up perfectly. In the old days, artists would only sometimes be told the card's name and/or color, rarely function (came up in discussion regarding why Dance of Many looks weird). Sometimes art would come in for next set and only then Wizards tried to turn it into a card - which was why they made the "creature flies only if text box says so, ignore wings in art" rule. McNeil used similar motifs on multiple cards; it's possible "Invoke Prejudice" was inspired by the art he turned in, not the other way around.Multiverse ID lined up perfectly, though, and is the real reason the card is banned. Neo-nazis would link to the card as a shorthand for spreading their message, and that internet traffic is what got Wizards spooked. I'm willing to bet the other cards in the "hateful 7" all had similar net traffic, which was abnormal despite how long ago most of them were printed.Though, as I said before, WOTC knew about "sensitivity issues" for a long time, they just weren't thinking of them when they made the cards. For example, Stone-Throwing Devils came up in a discussion about printing Magic in new languages, at which point it was labeled as "we would never have made that if we knew it was an insult, and we didn't think to check because we never thought we might print cards for Islamic customers.">didn't check Arabia lore for an Arabia setAt that point they actually were "small indie game company, plz understand"
>>92747149>I'll never draw seven lands in a row again!
>>92747271>can't be put into exileExile is so fucking overused we now need indestructible for exile.
>>92747411*gets reprinted in mh3*not so fast affinity bucko
>>92747411Buy Thought Monitors now!
>>92747471>MH3 breaks the fucking reserved listWtf I love Horizons sets now.
I should have bought the kappa when they were first leaked but uncomfirmed for modern legality
>>92747434They could have had that art sitting around for months before figuring out what they were going to do with it. I think McNeil just submitted some wild art and someone working on the set said "hey, you know what would be funny?"
>>92747471>>92747480Goyfs of Innocence1GGSorceryYou get EEE. Then you may pay any amount of E. Destroy all artifacts with man value X or less, were X is the amount of energy paid this way.
>>92747411isn't this card just SLOW and BAD>enters tapped on t1>on t2, it eats your island's mana to use its ability>you pay 2 mana to give a spell improvise, so you need 3 untapped artifacts on the board to get any sort of positive mana>you need 4-5 untapped artifacts before it becomes better than just having 1-2 of the ancient tomb lands like the new ugins colorless land>its a nombo with spells that already have improvise, it does nothing>its a nombo with spells that already have affinity for artifacts, because even if it could do something they probably already have their colorless cost eliminated at that point>including high cost non-improvise / non-affinity spells in your deck means you have a total reliance on drawing archway to be able to cast them at all
>>92747522It was more likely a "fuck, we still need 20 cards to round out the set, what art hasn't been used yet?" I mean they literally reused the inside of Howling Mine for Word of Command.By the way, in the days before collector numbers, colors were ordered differently - not WUBRG but alphabetically. Black, blUe, Green, Red, White. But Legends had the same number of cards in each color, so the switch (in Exodus) didn't affect what number Invoke Prejudice was in the set list, and what number it was assigned as its Multiverse ID. That could only have been different if there was one more or one less card in one of the prior sets, or if Invoke Prejudice had a different name.
>>92747545I don't get the hype either, most things you're casting in affinity are either free from affinity or are dirt cheap.
Why the fuck are they reprinting the elementals?
Any new MH3 spoilers (totally not "oficial" leaks)?
>>92747562Sounds to me like more reason to think it's not a coincidence.
>>92745134I started frequenting a cafe that holds magic nights but I can’t find my old Coldsnap cards from my childhood. Feels bad bro.
>>92747562Howling Mine is Mark PooleWord of Command is Jesper MyrforsYou absolute zoomer buffoon
>>92747467They went overboard with exile zones as well.
>TQLET HIM OUTLET HIM OOOOOUT
>>92747637I'm so sick of shit being in exile that isn't really in exileit's the thing I hate most about the game since coming back
>>92745471>play hogaak as my go-to legacy aggro deck>every card in the deck is modern-printed except the duals and Anger>careful study if i'm playing sultai with crabsi understand completely now why he got banned even tho i didnt play at all that summerthis nigga is so funi love graveyard triggers and delvingturn 2 8/8 with trample very consistently is unfair in any format besides legacyi love milling people out with altar of dementia too
>>92745134Is it me or dragons are the coolest creatures in magic? They aren’t blacked wash, or get restricted to a single gender
Speaking of affinity. I like this card. Is it playable in Pioneer in any deck other than ParaOutcome?
>>92747075I immediately thought it was bait. I had such a laugh.
>>92747628Well fuck me, I've been regurgitating something I was told in the 90s and never checked. You got me there. They did reuse the original art for Tropical Island as Birds of Paradise, though, right?
>>92747689>They aren’t blacked wash
>>92747688based fellow gaak enjoyer>>92747698I don't think so, even when it was paired with PO it was very fringe
>>92747689I liked phyexians.
>>92747745i literally have 2 sets of stitcher's suppliers signed from going to big events and getting artists to sign stuff, my hogaak deck is so fucking sexybless up fellow graveyard aggro enjoyer>turn 1 stitchers, trigger, go>turn 2 voyaging satyr, cast hogaak, trigger vengefine, swing for 4 passyoulovetoseeit
>>92747648At least they didn't went overboard with "outside the game" mechanics. Karn is the only broken one that comes to mind.
>>92747776>outside the gamei hate wishing so much but i'm gonna be honest i fucking love invasion of segovia
>>92747756I too remember when Phyrexians were cool, instead of jobbing to a bunch of easily corrupted humans and one singular angel.
>>92747780DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS I GOT SEGOVIA AND ARCAVIOS BACKWARDS
rate idea for cardApocalypse Knight {1B}Creature - Phyrexian Knight (U)DeathtouchWhenever you draw a card, you gain 1 life.Whenever an opponent draws a card, they lose 1 life.2/3
>>92747791eh seems abit on the weak side, dies to removal 4/10
>>92747791Apocalypse Knight {1B}Creature - Phyrexian Knight (U)DeathtouchWhenever you draw a card, you gain 1 life.Whenever you gain life, your opponent loses that much life.Whenever your opponent loses life, draw that many cards.2/3
>>92747828Apocalypse Knight {B}Creature - Phyrexian Knight (M)DeathtouchWard (3)Whenever you draw a card, you gain 1 life.Whenever you gain life, your opponent loses that much life.Whenever your opponent loses life, draw that many cards.1/4
>>92747791Apocalypse Goyf {GB}Creature - Phyrexian LhurgoyfThis creature's power is equal to the number of cards in all graveyards and it's toughness is equal to that number plus 1.Whenever you draw a card, you gain 1 life.Whenever an opponent draws a card, they lose one life.
Sheolgoyf {B}Creature - Phyrexian LhurgoyfDeathtouch, First StrikeWard - Call your mom and tell her you love herWhenever you draw a card, you gain X life where X is the number of card types in all graveyards plus two.Whenever an opponent draws a card, they lose X life where X is the number of card types in all graveyards and exile plus 10. Sheolgoyf's power is equal to the number of cards in your library and it's toughness is equal to that number plus 2.
>>92747791It's ok, not triggering once a turn seems strong.
>>92747791Selfstrangling Geist {G}Creature - SpiritHasteUndying1/0
>think about buildiing breach titan as a cheap way to get back into modern>valakuts are $25what the fuck
Goyf Song (U)InstantTarget spell becomes a copy of Tarmogoyf.Is it playable?
>>92747791Pretty reasonable, actually
>>92747889Song of the LhurgoyfsEnchant CreatureEnchanted Creature is a Tarmogoyf (it loses all other copiable traits)
i wish i had sold my future sight goyfs so i could have fun and crack goyf jokes with the rest of you guys but all i can see when i see these jokes is despair...
Archon of Insensitivity {3B}Creature - Archon (U)FlyingWhenever Archon of Insensitivity enters the battlefield or attacks, target opponent may sacrifice a creature or planeswalker or discard a card. If they don't, they lose 3 life. You may draw a card. If you don't, you gain 3 life.3/3
Archin of the LhurgoyfWhen Archon enters the battlefield, each opponent discards one card of each card type. for each type they can't, you make a Tarmogofyf token
Waste Goyf 1BEnchantment - LhurgoyfWaste not but it creates tarmogoyf tokens, I don't wanna write it down.
https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/492734?page=1&sharedid=&irpid=4931599&Language=English>people actually buy this shit
>>92747918i really fucking like the saga art on the numbered praetors and it pisses me the fuck off
>>92747928>tfw ywn own the vorinclex boat
>>92747780And I like Gobakhan. And Karn. But they are too strong.
Mindnapper {3]Legendary Artifact {2}, {T}, Sacrifice Mindmapper: You control target player during that player's next precombat main phase
Flametongue Goyfu1R, 4/2When Flametongue Goyfu enters, it deals X damage to target non-Goyf creature where X is 1 plus all card types in all graveyards“For corpse-eating, rotted skinned abominations they have pretty specific aim” -Pavol, son of Davvol
Magus of the Ritual {B}Creature - Human Wizard{T}, sacrifice a nontoken creature: Add B If Magus of the Ritual died this way, add BBB instead.
>>92747954blood pet what have they done to you
>>92747953
>>92747954desu the tap requirement ruins maguses. it should just be "sacrifice ~: add bbb"
>>92747953tfw davvol forget's pavol's birthday
How are you guys so good at making new cards?
>>92747972that was the intention, wizards hates the maguses actually being playable so i intentionally had to make it dogshit
Magus of the Lhurgoyf {1G}Creature - Human Wizard (R)This creature's power is equal to the number of card types in all graveyards and it's toughness is equal to that numbet plus 1.Other creatures are Tarmogoyfs.
>>92747977They just haven't been properly schooled in FIRE design so it looks like they're posting reasonable ideasapply a few layers of FIRE and it will all look like dogshit like it shouldexMagus of the Ritual {B}Creature - Human WizardDeathtouchWard {2}Whenever you sacrifice a creature, exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn. Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature and it gains deathtouch until end of turn.Whenever a creature with deathtouch deals damage to an opponent, you draw a card and lose 1 life.{T}, sacrifice a nontoken creature: Add B if Magus of the Ritual died this way, add BBB instead1/1
Tarmogoyf 2 {G}Creature - Lhurgoyfthe tarmogoyf effects i'm not wrigint them out"If goyf is so good how come theres no goyf 2?"
Basking Goyfwalla {1G}Creature - Lhurgoyf (R)Madness {0}This creature's power is equal to the number of card types in all graveyards and it's toughness is equal to that numbet plus 1.
Two Fucking Tarmogoyfs {1}{G}Creature - LhurgoyfTwo Fucking Tarmogofys power is equal to the number of card types in all graveyards times two, and its toughness is equal to that number plus two."Holy shit" - Grist, the Hungering Tide
Daylight Saving Top {2}Daylight Saving Top enters the battlefield tapped.Daylight Saving Top doesn't untap during your first untap step.Tap, exile: Get an additional phase of your choice. Activate only as a sorcery.
Goyfus Interruptus {B}Legendary EnchantmentIf a spell or ability would count the number of card types in graveyards, it counts zero instead
>>92748026>>{G}; target card in a graveyard becomes all card types. Activate only once each turn.
Ward - Make a fart noise using only your opponent's hand and your armpit.
Undaunted-Your teammates may produce an actual fart if they’ve had Chipotle today.
Competitive commander but with ante - $300 (settled price point)
Clash (Both you and your opponent fart. Whoever's brap is the loud, most wretched smelly one draws a card.)
>>92746903I thought the same and the other dude that plays chess in my local also thinks like that. Sadly control players love to play on time.
So, my friends are all playing MTG comander, I have some old cards but not many, my LGS has a ton of 10cent commons/baduncommons ect, from pretty much every set.Any idea's for DIRT cheep comander decks you can think about? I'm thinking of taking my white banding deck, and just adding a bunch of cheep white monsters that play well together
>>92748354Wrong subreddit, anon.
>>92748354Try the other thread >>92738875
Why are you baiting like this
>>92748372>>92748383fantastic, Thanks
>>92747880Looks like they are $3 to mehttps://bootlegmage.com/?s=valakut
>>92746073What kind of deck could break it?
>ward: exile three cards from your own graveyard>ward: each opponent draw one card>ward: put a - 1/-1 on target creature you control>ward: each opponent creature a tapped treasure token>ward: get a poison counter>ward: phyrexian mana>ward: roll a D6, you take damage equal to its result >ward: goad each creature you control until end of turn >ward: planechase
>>92747880ever since theros beyond death came out, amulet became a valakut deck because of pic related, and amulet has been going strong for the last decade or soadd that to the fact that valakut hasn't been properly reprinted and you get the current price
>>92748420I think this>>92746847is as good as it gets, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong in the future
Ward - Ante the top card of your library
I feel so trapped MTG is the only played tcg that isn't complete dog shit
>>92748476what about flesh and blood? I never played it but it's the other tcg I hear about the most
Ward - Sacrifice a tarmogoyf
Ward - $5 USD
>>92748485All the people with ADHD that i know from my lgs love it.
>>92748436>ward: get a poison counterthat's actually pretty good. put it on a a creature that is supposed to be a toxic ooze.
Ward - Suck off MaRo
Ward - Play EDH
>>92748485you know you're actually so right I completely forgot about flesh and blood
>>92747938>viking boat saga>it's a vinland saga
Four Steps Ahead {1U}InstantSpree (Choose or one more additional costs){U}: Counter target spell.{U}: Return target permanent to its owner's hand.{U}: Tap all creatures your opponents control.{U}: Draw a card.
>>92748636there's still no templating for itSo far all wards are costs, and only as things that can be paid as costs. Mana, sacrificing a permanent, discarding a card, collecting evidence, paying life. There are no ward cards that allow you to perform actions or give an opponent something, that isn't normally within the cost of spells/abilities.If you said "Ward - You get a poison counter", then its effectively saying "Pay {you get a poison counter}" And that opens up weird rules interactions besides not being very comprehensible. Can you pay getting a poison counter if you control Melira? Does it see it as you are paying the poison counter being placed upon you like paying life, or does it see you paying putting the action of placing a poison counter on you as an event, an event which then does nothing?
>>92748701Putting counters on things is fine for a cost (Devoted Druid etc) and they already have rule interactions for how that has to work under Solemnity. It's just kinda fiddly because player counters don't use the same phrasing as other counters. "Ward - Put a poison counter on yourself" would technically be valid, I think, but I don't see why "Ward - Get one poison counter" wouldn't likewise be.
You know what's great is starting with a hand of 2x cut down + 2x go for the throat and dying on turn 3 to aggro because its an impossible matchup now and removal does nothing
>>92747876unironically a very cool design
>>92748792>Blossoming Defense my SSS? :)I'm telling you man, the card needs banning in Pioneer. It's already the #1 gameplan and still people don't even know it exists. The moment it starts making waves in the tournament scene it's going to jump to the top of the metagame and then some because there's quite literally no reasonable answer to it. Playing removal just isn't good enough anymore because you can't remove it.
>>92748334>Sadly control players love to play on timeThey are not control players, they are shitty slow players that like to durdle.
>>92748701I'm 99% sure that if you controlled OG Melira that you couldn't pay a cost that involved you gaining a poison counter for the same reason you can't crack a fetch if your opponent controls Yasharn. You can't do the thing that the cost requires you to do.
Leave SSS to me
>>92748999Would it be really funny if you left up 3 mana and they just put Jegantha in their hand instead of playing SSS out?>Heh, if I waste my entire 3rd turn achieving nothing I'm sure to win
>>92749016You can just cast something else at the end of their turn
>>92749036So everyone now has to play flash.dec because SSS exists?
>>92749064>i really have to play removal and be safe isntead of just shitting out creatures on curve?>fucking money-driven format
>>92749064How is the sss different from all those "must be answered" creaturesLike if your not playing stupid creatures, you are already running15 instant removals
>>92749100All those other creatures don't kill you on the spot if they aren't answered with an instant. And none of them are face up the entire time meaning you can't tap out ever or you lose.
>>92749100The fundamental difference between SSS and any other "must be answered" card is that SSS gives you no opportunity to actually answer it. Because of Plot, by the time it enters the battlefield its controller has mana to protect it with Blossoming Defense which by the way actually gives +4/+2 now.It's pointless arguing that SSS is a reasonable card because it's the #1 thing to be doing in Pioneer without anyone even fucking realising it. The moment the wider Pioneer community actually catches on, it's game over and you can go have fun with your format that's 20% Gruul Aggro and 10% RDW which are both just shells for SSS to rape people in.
>>92749145Split second Fatal Push when.
>current year>not running maindeck shadowspear
>>92749157People like you are why picrel exists.
>>92749131>>92749145I dunno, hasnt really been my impression. Telegraphing your moves with plot usually means I'm somewhat prepared.But to be fair, I havnt been venturing much out of the grixis color palette recently
>>92747411*Hurkyl's Recalls you*
>>92749064>I need to leave mana open to answer threats>I don't want to waste my turn>I will play things after the danger has passedDraw/Go decks have existed for over 20 years
>>92749292>I'm somewhat prepared.The ONLY way you can prepare is to leave mana open on your turn. And it has to be at least 2 mana, because you know it got plotted to be cast with protection in hand. So now you're being taxed 2 mana every turn. And the opponent can just... not play it.
>counter a single spell from opponent>they spam emotes and rope outWhy can't we have a real online magic gamenot 'rent your cards on mtgo'not 'faceless opponents on mtga'
>>92749293It was a PO deck.
>>92749305Draw/Go decks don't threaten a one turn kill.
>>92749305You're either a troll or really fucking dumb if you can't see why SSS is a problem. Again I'd like to repeat that the card's metagame share in Pioneer is higher than Vein Ripper or Arclight Phoenix despite the fact that a mountain of people still don't even know it exists.
>>92749256I'd rather play threats, but removal has to match.
>>92749064If your deck is not 100% played at instant speed you WILL die to the following:>RDW / SSS clocking you out by turn 3>Boros tokens clocking you out by turn 4>Gruul / izzet / etc aggro clocking you out by turn 4 with protection>Abuelo's Awakening instant kill combo>Conspiracy Unraveler instant kill combo>Outcaster Trailblazer instant kill combo>Rush of Dread Bloodletter instant kill combonot to mention the janky ass combos like donating greeds gambit with falconHere's how an SSS deck playstyle goes:>opp plots card t1>opp plots card t2>on opps turn 3, if you are tapped out, they simply kill you. If you aren't tapped out, they plot again. You are now on their end of turn step with no targets for removal. Either you can play your card advantage / board development on their end of turn OR you just fell behind on tempo>opp turn 4-5 if you both had a staring contest, they overrun you with multiple lethal threats and ways to protect it
it's hard for me to to put into words how happy i am with how hostile /vg/ is to this faggotry being forced there by a single /tg/ retard who doesn't want to have his gay arena discussions here
>>92749383wish it had a unique poster count so you could see the 3 people with 32 posts
>>92749383what the fuck are you babbling about, paedo?
>>92749392it's really not necessaryyou can spot troonposting from a mile away
>>92749366You forgot the part where the SSS player can just play a normal RDW gameplan and force you to react to it while keeping the plotted cards in their back pocket for when you overextend. You keep up your removal forever waiting for SSS, but instead get beaten to death by swiftspears and kumanos and so on.
>>92749321They do with experimental synthesizer
It's incredible that people would even argue SSS is a reasonable card when it catapulted Rx aggro decks into being T1 in Pioneer singlehandedly. Arguments against it are like hearing arguments against Eye of Ugin.>The deck is fine when they DON'T draw it!
>>92745134>TQPod is such a fucking satisfying card. I loved the feeling of inevitably working my way towards game ending threats or combo pieces. It would probably be way too slow in the current meta though.
>>92749414fuck simulacrum synthesizersame thing right
>control vs control mirror>turn 1 mirrex, enigma jewel>turn 2 island, pass, make a token on opponents end stepkekholy mother of kekI think I solved the format
>>92749469The only reason Pod remains banned is because unbanning a card that it turns out is completely fucking irrelevant makes WotC look bad.
i skipped the summer of 'gaak bros, now he is a bulk rare that sells under a dollarhow expensive was he at the height of his power?20? 25?
>>927496438 mana, though you could lower it with convoke.
>>92749648now tell me about the USD prices
>>92749654I don't know and it honestly couldn't matter less.
>>92749643https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Modern+Horizons/Hogaak+Arisen+Necropolis#paper
>>92749668but i'm curious, you double nigger
>>92749672>calling someone a doublenigger when you're too lazy to look it up on mtggoldfish or any other site with historical pricing data
>>92749681yep>>92749671thank you anonymous hero
>>92749643he never got very high because everyone knew he'd get banned pretty soon.what blindsided a lot of players was when wotc took out bridge first before taking out the gaak alongside looting.
>>92749672I don't remember. Maybe $10-15? The incoming ban was really fucking obvious so the price will have been kept low by that.
Why do "pros" play Snow basics when they have no real reason to?
>>92749748because they have sovl
>>92749721Never forgiveNever forgetLooting is probably an unfair card but it was fun god damnit. They even printed support for Mardu Pyromancer in MH. Wasted because they wanted to print a fucking busted piece of shit.Bridge probably didn’t even deserve the ban, but Hogaak definitely did.
>>92749748they just like themwhy do you play non snow basics when they provide no advantage?t. used to play snow basics, regular RCQ grinderthe only reason i didnt use snow basics in pioneer is because that angel that taps your opponents' snow permanents exists
>>92749762fuck this nigga so hard for keeping me from using snow forests in mono green i just settled for ice age basic forests
>>92749748I play snow basics with field of the dead, it feels great
>>92749774based, same with putting snow islands in gifts storm to be able to grab two separate blue basicsanon was asking about running them when it ISNT advantageous though>what makes regular basics any more advantageous to snow basics? there is no deckbuilding cost to running them
>gonna have to get old bordered snow-wastes to match my old bordered regular ones>8$ apieceaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i only use beta (c) basics
>>92749792any cards you use are beta
>>92749792takes one to know one
>>92749782>there is no deckbuilding cost to running themYes there is, the art you have available is restricted to only 3 sets; ICE, CSP and Danner's Secret Lair release.Then again I'm the only person in the world who uses unique basics in all my decks, so.
You just know there are people out there who've bought every single secret lair in both foil and normal to date.
>>92749816They all deserve public hangingsEnd consumerism
>>92749806i use flavor text basics from the dnd sets, that's my secret techdon't tell anyone tho
>ordered almost an entire new deck online>postman claims I wasn't home to collect it>he didn't leave a note>apparently took it back to my local post office>call them>then sent it back to sender cause I took more than 2 days to collect it despite having no idea it was even there>email sender>Thanks for your email, anon! Unfortunately we have not received the returned parcel yet. Please contact the postal service for more assistance
I would use Snow lands if Avon painted some.
>make a mono color deck with only non-snow basic lands>opponent on my end of turn casts assassin's trophy, blows up my basic land>untaps, casts deadly cover-up, removes all the basic lands from my deck>plays more land destruction and I can't fetch basics
>>92749806>Yes there is, the art you have available is restricted to only 3 sets; ICE, CSP and Danner's Secret Lair release.And KHM and MH1
>>92749837UK?
>>92749827I hate the frame but I am pretty fond of the flavour text, although normally I wouldn't like lands being associated with particular planes, worlds or whatever.>>92749816There's a guy at my LGS who just buys whatever garbage WOTC pukes out including pic related. He claims his favourite format is vintage yet doesn't own a deck for any format except EDH, and from what I can understand he doesn't own his own house or car and is in his late 40's. Some horrible stuff and an example of what to never become.
>>92749850There's a reason I didn't include those, anon.
>playing artifacts>opp uses ossification on my market gnome>opp uses something else on my steelwing seraph>have simulacrum down>uses removal on the tokens from simulacrum>uses removal on my transformed sawblades>wastes a second ossification>wastes a borrowed time>scoops right after
>>92749748>>92749762literally had a friendly judge sit down to watch my games in a top 8 round to see if there was any reason for the snow basics in my decklistbut likehe can SEE the decklist, it's written right in front of himhe knows theres no cards that care about snow lands, it was fucking rhinosi was just there to swag out with them
>>92749857Homeownership should be a prerequisite to owning Magic cards.
>>92749852ausgaylia forgot to mention the worse thing: when I asked them why they didn't leave a note, they said they are phasing out notes because they want to save paper which is fine but not when you have no other fucking system in place to let customers know when they have missed (or allegedly missed, in my case) the delivery of a parcel or letter
>>92749897it's been going on for a while now, they won't do anything about it, we'll just have to see the impact of mh3 in the format
>>92749901SO trueI have a friend who lives in poverty on a meme disability pension but somehow can afford new cards for his gay EDH decks every fortnight
>>92749922>Bjorn, Slayer of Beasts>3BB>Costs 3 less if opponent revealed a companion this game>can't be blocked by creatures with companion>5/4
What is commander exactly, I'vce only played arena and regular back in like 2008? the only thing I know about EDH is everyone seems to love it and it required 4 people which seems kind of shit.
>>92749952it's for fat faggots to jerk each other off, please dont bother looking into itjust continue to play 60 card formats and you will be happy
>>92749961Anything that's main selling point is "it's fun with friends" I automatically assume it's shit.
>>92749972i mean look, it's great and all to spend an hour fucking around drinking beers and watching the simpsons with your friends while playing something that vaguely resembles magic in the bcakground, but don't take it too seriouslyyeah man haha wow, to combat your jace beleren i'll cast scapeshift and get 13 landfall triggers on my rampaging balothsokay your turn jim
>>92749981alcohol is shit and the simpsons is trash
>>92749989
>>92749952In theory Commander is where players can use sub-optimal "fun" strategies focused around things they think are cool and neat, rather than caring about any kind of meta. In reality it's 4 autistic furries asking each other to read each other's 9 lines of card text any time anyone does anything for 3 hours, then someone wins and everyone is glad it's over.
hello i am a grill (precising this because people will more likely notice and want to(IM NOT TRANSEXUAL STOP I WILL CRY i will literally )) who is looking for fren to plat mtg arena with, I play standard and we can vc and stuff. I can show you my irl collection too if you'd like! add my stupid other account appleorangecat
>>92749952>What is commander exactlyA multiplayer setting in which you use 100 non repeating MTG cards to play a politics game in which winning moves are only allowed once everyone is bored with the match.
>>92749996Can I read your card?>No buy your own
>>92750006>winning moves are only allowed once everyone is bored with the match.YEPyou spend 40 minutes durdling value piles til everyone wants the game to end so someone presents their infinite combo
sharnt be adding that faggot
>>92749999nice digitspost your modern deck
>>92749952EDH is not magic, it's not even really a game etc
>>92749952A format that is either the most braindead casual shit you have ever played or one of the most complex competitive games you have played, with many steps in-between
>>92750012Ward -- Buy this card.
>>92750033i cant post picture of the whole 77 cards at once but i play green and red, aggro. im not the best but please i love this game i really want friends to play with
>>92750050>77what you scheming over there with 62 main
I kind of want to try a draft but I've never done it before and I know fuck all about deck building, I just copy shit off untapped that looks fun. How do you build a deck that synergizes? Should I just try it and pick cards of my favorite color (white/blue) and see how far I get?
>>92749999>koumeI know women don't exist on the internet but reading this most really makes me wish it was genuine. Also checked.
you guys i will give up mashallah you guys are missing out on the cute wizard cosplayer mtg gamer I am. I am seething hard. I thought 4chan niggas would be down bad enough to befriend me and spend time playing with me FLIP U GUYS!
1v1 60 card is like a boxing match1v1v1v1 100 card singleton is like a foot race where you're allowed to trip each othersome people (new players) like to play it without tripping where it's just a race to the finish linebut most people understand that the strategy is in keeping everyone within reach to trip at the last moment so you can sprint ahead to the finishif you cannot get in this mindset enough to appreciate that there is a game to be had, you're not as smart or good at the game as you think you are
>>92750084you should play sealed to learn about deckbuilding so you dont getr fucked over by just drafting poorly, then read up on draft guides for the set youre drafting/find general draft guides about what kind of cards are goodin general>dudes>removal>bombsare just good stuff to look foryou need dudes to put on the board and pressureyou need removal for your opponents dudesdudes who make extra dudes with tokens are even betterand try to get a big bomb creature that will just win the game if left unchecked, something like steel seraph or kolaghan
>>92749999How has nobody asked for boobs yet is beyond my, even just to shitpost unless >>92750033 is layered on so much irony I didn't detect it.
>>92750086I LITERALLY WILL SHOW PROOF PLEASE ADD ME I im gonna cry....
>>92750110he said he played paper i wanted to see his modern decki dont play arena i cant add him l0l
>>92750110i dont have boobs. i know 4chan men are degenerates but like can u not just be happy that i genuienly want to play with you. ETERNAL COPE
>>92750111Post a timestamped photo of your hand with fingers and nails visible
>>92750110>who is looking for fren to plat mtg arena withHow does that even work?
>>92750116Fair enough, I'll pretend it was and that nobody believed it.>like can u not just be happyBe on your merry way, person.
>>92750129add me on discord, we are friends, we play mtg arena. what do you mean how does that work ??!?!?!
>>92750139Oh so like 1v1? you made it sound like you wanted to duo to plat.
>>92750128i will not be exposing myself publicly even if it is a simple hand add me and i will give you all the proof you need i will literally open my camera
>>92750153and what will you do when I screenshot your face and post it here, mr fbi agent?
>>92750146yes 1v1 i just want one person to play with
>>92749999>>92750153This person is a fed or is someone working with the feds.
>>92750156wow then i will not show myself on camera, also women are just a distraction from the actual fbi agents so watch out
>>92750156This is more on the norm. Faith restored.
>>92750157I'll add you on arena then, I have zero interest in VC though. Is appleorangecat your arena name?
>>92750187Why would you add the schizo tranny from /vg/?
>>92749897>Tabletop deck cost: $74,000Uhhh
whatwever you guys are making me too nervous i bet u are all incels crying about not talkign to women too >>92750187I want to be able to text so we can communicate when we want to play and also vc is more fun so u can hear me cry about you beating me
>>92750213>schizo trannyI couldn't care less who or what a person is, I just want to play the game
>>92750226You can play the game with literally anyone at any time. Why the schizo tranny?
you guys i am crying myself to sleep tonight and it is entirely your fault........ waaa waaa waaaw waa waasdhjaidjhas let me be the schizo princess iam
>>92749939*makes constructs and kills you with vaultkey anyway*
>>92750245I'll add you princess, also looking for someone to play & talk to, just don't larp too hard and we are good to go.
>>92750333sir yes sir thank yu for your time
i wish i had a cute boymoder gf
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>>92750356>have tranny gf>she doesn't like magicit's over
>>92750511owari da
guys if you're gonna use our thread can you at least not shit it up with your arena screenshots?
>>92750730sorry, i didn't realize we were getting in the way of your doomposting
NEW SECRET LAIR?POGGERS!
>>92750771>mfw i play against someone on arena with 39 different cosmetics for their deck>with vanilla magic backs on my cards and an f2p avatarit feels very good to win, desu
>tfw power crept out of pioneer
>>92750783For me, it's the heavily played cardbacks
>>92750783Just don't be a draftlet, bro
>>92750823literally and I mean LITERALLY in the top 5 best decks right nowhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-mono-black-discardI know you guys are bored but we deserve better shitposting than this, talk about modern used to be good or something
huh, the lgs i used to frequent leaned pretty hard on 40k and d&d stuff.
>>92750937correcting the link because goldfish is buggy messhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-mono-black-discard-c13fcbad-aa04-4ac3-b5e1-c45651b6b25a#paper
Already forgotten.
>>92751009>>92751009>>92751009
>>92747901at you will be ready for goyf tribal
>>92749748they have different names than regular ones so might be useful with field of the dead or extraplanar lens, but one is kind of banned and the other is unplayable so i dont know
>>92746268Because its giga retarded. Lets say, for the sake of argument, that there was a central market that everyone could agree on for card prices. You put a cap, lets say $5 a card on the format, which gets all of the "best" lands, threats, etc banned. Everyone uses the best ones then, that fall right around $4. Except now that those have been found, and there is new demand for those $4 cards because of this new format. Their price rises above $5. Now they aren't legal, and your deck isn't legal. You buy new cards, which raises their price, and the cycle continues for a while, until maybe if you are lucky price memory fades on some of the first batch of cards and you can use those for a couple days again.In an attempt to save money, you have had to buy a new deck for this format essentially every time you want to play, and it appeals to no one.
