Lady of the Abyss editionHere is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.>Build Divide>Force of Will>Final Fantasy TCG>DBZ CCG>Wixoss>Keyforge>Gundam>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)>Digimon>Flesh and Blood>Gate Ruler>Battle Spirits>Ashes>One Piece>The other DBZ game>Sorcery>Doomtown>Magi Nation>Warlordetc.Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!>Wixoss Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH>Force of Will Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF>Dragonball GT Shadow Dragon saga rulebookhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp>Gate Ruler Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB>Build Divide Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz>Flesh and Blood Pastebinhttps://rentry.org/oypcs>Ashes Reborn Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S>Netrunner Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w>Fusion World Ruleshttps://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/pdf/rules/fw_OfficialRule_Manual_en_v1.00_2.pdfPlay with /acg/ through voice chat! No text chat so coordinate in thread to get some games in.https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP>Last Thread>>92710029>Thread Question:What's the card with the worst art in your game?
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Today's Build Divide reveal is a Rare from set 14.Cold BreathTarget 1 of your opponent's units, put it into the Energy Zone rested. If you put, for each of that unit's total cost, target 1 of your Energy, stand it.
>What's the card with the worst art in your game?
>>92744859I wish people would stop shilling this garbage.
>>92744882But it's a really fun game.
>>92744906Lots of games are fun. So what?
>>92744914People should post about them.
>>92744919Fun games are not allowed.
>>92744922What's this? A picture for ants?
>>92744882Lissen, I hate the art and am sick of star whores but the I like the game and I will discuss it here. It's a good game with shit art.
>>92744977>It's a good game with shit art.Amen
>>92744859Man, the art in Unlimited is so hit or miss. Some of it is solid and looks like it came from a well done graphic novel. And then some of it just "why?" It seems poor Han got the worst of it because all his cards are pretty bad.
>>92744995Best game posted so far, better than one piece even
>>92744919Card games in the card game thread? I think not!
>>92741717I honestly didn’t think untap was that bad when I used it. Interface took some getting used to and it was slow, but not unbearable. Could be that it’s gotten worse, or the last program I used to play cards was lackey though.
>>92744922A bizarre resource system that creates no sense of progression is why I dropped this.
>>92746428Never played, but in games like this isn’t the avatar progressing part of the progression as much or more than the resources themselves? Quite a few tcgs have resources that ebb and flow rather than build.
>>92746471Even pieceofshitgioh has a sense of progression
Ahhwhwhwhw one piece bros, I'm switching to black!!!
>>92746566nice ass....
>>92746566Crazy. How expensive it is to build deck on that tcg?
>>92746728Depending on color $100-400, black is on the expensive side.
>>92746566It's funny how her and Page 1 effects got switched up with the new versions.
>>92745575>Man, the art in Unlimited is so hit or miss. Some of it is solid and looks like it came from a well done graphic novel. And then some of it just "why?"Yeah, there's some good pieces, some stuff that has good use of color even if the linework is dubious, and also some stuff that you wonder how the artist ever got hired. I'm hoping the art improves as we see sets 3 and 4 - sets 1/2 were apparently commissioned all at once, but the pieces the developers like the most are pretty consistentently the best ones overall, so hopefully they've heard the complaints and move further in that direction.
>>92746923Running both in black/purple King is going to be disgusting
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>>92746365The cards look terrible.
>>92747609Maybe I won’t have to buy the dragons off eBay from older sets!! Very cool!
>600 backersDamn, that's like nobody. Six hundred people? They might get to a million dollars, maybe, going off the 1/3rd rule. But the economics of a TCG don't work at that scale, that's the whole reason FFG went to LCGs - so they could do smaller print runs.
>>92747975Honestly not a whole lot of people know this game exists. It got eclipsed by other games back in the day and some bad business decisions were made as well. The thing is the marketing sphere for this isn’t that great. Team Covenant is not enough to get this game hot off the presses. But honestly so far the integrity and overall design is great. Only time will tell.
>>92747975The thing is that they aren't doing small purchases in the KS. You either buy the bundle with 6 decks for $100, or you buy a booster box for $110 or you buy a box of greed for $120.It is hard for people to commit and having to pay $100 minimum for product is a bit hard.But anyway the Kickstarter was asking 40,000 and is about to reach 300,000. It was a success And they didn't even had to appeal for greed, like most KS do. They did a 1of1 10,000 max tier that would be able to design a "Boss" card, and 10 off 2,500 that would receive an original card art painting. If they were greed they could have opened multiples of the 10k tier, etc.Wish they had an option for only 2 starters tho, I just want 2 faction starters + BoG + BB.
>>92748159>But anyway the Kickstarter was asking 40,000 and is about to reach 300,000The goal for a Kickstarter is never real. I can all but guarantee you that for $40,000.01 they would've cancelled the project. Lying about your minimum goal is just how Kickstarter works.
>>92747666Are those wixoss starter deck?
>>92748183yeah they released new ones with this set
>>92748183honestly game seems fun but that art is a hard pass for me king makes me feel degen like im looking at hentai in public
>>92748332A shame you’ve got that hangup, or that it would prevent you from trying. Your loss though.
>>92748214>new starter decks>same characters as always
>>92744645>removal while resetting energy to continue doing more thingsNeat. Sick art too.
>>92747975Hopefully some of those are retailers, but regardless the marketing has been very poor. I'm sure you have to pay for it, but Warlord should be showing up as a top result on Kickstarter right now (it's over $300k in 3 days), and I have to dig for it on each device I've checked, logged in or not.>>92747872They do seem to be trying to print high demand old cards, and dragons are usually popular.
Ending of day 3 >>92747609I hope they at least spoil all the legendary cards (one a day) before the end of the campaign.___________BTW just saw: they updated the FAQs>What does the rarity breakdown for Into the Accordlands?The set contains 340 cards, broken down into the following rarities:24 Legendary (6 of which are Warlords)72 Rare (12 of which are Warlords)96 Uncommon (6 of which are Warlords)148 Common>What are the odds of getting a Legendary or an Extended Art card?Legendary cards will replace the Rare slot in one in eight packs.Extended Art cards will replace the Foil in one in 6 packs.>So what exactly is in a booster box?Each booster box of Into the Accordlands contains 24 booster packs, with each booster pack containing 15 playable cards.Each booster box also contains 80 fixed cards to facilitate drafting those are broken down as follows:14 Warlords (2 each of 7 different Warlords)24 Level 1 characters (3 each for 8 players)16 level 2 characters (2 each for 8 players)9 Items (to ensure legal deck ratios)9 Actions (to ensure legal deck ratios)8 Characters (to ensure legal deck ratios)__________Kinda rough for a collector to get one of each card.Each booster box have 3 legendary cards (maybe 4 counting with a foil, idk). Assuming only 3 you would need 8 booster box minimum to complete a full 1 off of each Legendary.I really hope that they change the ratio when the game goes retail. (well if the legendary cards are only 1 in a deck It will not be bad)(But those guys have to step down for the next sets, There are way too many Legendary cards)
>>92743134They were making cards before the Disney acquisition.
oh shit I just popped back in for the first time in forever and saw that metazoo shut down lolmy brother and I played exactly one game and called it quits pretty much entirely cause it seemed like you had twice as much life as you needed
Get any FB02 product yet?I managed to find 28 blisters the last 2 days and these were my hits. Fully plan on buying 2-3 boxes tomorrow as well assuming they're not TOO expensive.
Kryptik isn't actually dead yet, color me shocked. Next set being released 6/19/2024.
>>92748571>same characters as alwaysI get the sentiment, but they’ve pretty consistently used their wide catalogue of LRIG recently and what do you expect for the 10th year anniversary? Like the last few sets had diva characters, lostorage/key characters, and OGs other than the 5. The last set even gave direct support to teams, brought back white and black Tawil and Umr, and added new (to the game at least) LRIG. The next anniversary set is also giving us new playable LRIG.Layla and Mama could use some love and I really want some actual new girls (or Soui) before we get Tama number 5, but it’s not like they haven’t given attention and new designs to only those characters in the starters.
>515 pallets and 19 boxes of metazoo cards stored in warehousejesus
>>92746484Lots of shitty games have ramping resources, and lots of great games don't. There's good games with fixed ramp, and random ramp, and resource pools. There's good games with banked resources, or push-pull systems, action points that convert to resources, or no resource system at all. Judging a game on that alone is nonsense.
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>>92750107i'll buy it all
>>92750136And some Boards?
>>92750241Forgot picture.
>>92750267i actually do want one of those and i don't even skate (i'm not 14). would be funny to buy and then throw in my closet forever
>>92748332>>92748384I can't even fully explain why especially because I'm literally gay but I find the Wixoss art extremely appealing. It's just the right amount of polished without looking totally generic.I'd really like to play it but absolutely no stores within hundreds of miles run it near me. Any online sim I'm not aware of?
>>92747325Hopefully it gets more consistent. I think most of the art is pretty solid, but a handful of cards just look so rough.>>92748332That's my struggle with any anime game. So much of the art is off-putting. Don't need people thinking I'm some sort of pedophile.>>92748789They have a special retailer pledge level and last I checked it had like 30 backers? Specifically for brick and mortar stores.
>>92747325>>92750405They've literally said as much. In one of the streams they said they kinda figured out their art direction around set 3 and it'll be more consistent from there.
>>92750440>they kinda figured out their art direction around set 3kek what a joke of a game
>>92744554TNUC SIHT KCUF
>>92748332I don't understand this logic at all.Most people genuinely do not care about what you do. And you shouldn't care what they think of you either. You're not in high school anymore. Why are you living your life like you're constantly being judged by insecure peers?
>>92746804OP08 black might not run Borsalino which is currently what's jacking up Black decks but you better stock up on OP-04 Sabos before black dominates the meta in JP again
RP Law is like a $700 deckthe prices of that game got way too insane for me
>>92750688Only right now because of Gordon and Mr 2 but Mr 2 will tank in price in a few weeks once all the tryhards have bought theirs since 3/4 of all EB01 boxes have a SECPrinting a replacement for Gordon and not banning the original was fully retarded by Bandai since everyone just plays 8 Gordon now
>>92750991Are you referring to Yu-Gi-Oh?Best deck for a beginner in Yu-Gi-Oh is probably Swordsoul. Very short and easy to learn. Will teach new players most of the basic mechanics. Decently powerful and flexible. Does well going first or second. Cheap.However, my advice overall would be NOT to play Yu-Gi-Oh. Especially the overpriced TCG. Out of the big 3, the best game for players new to card games is no questions asked, Pokemon.
So some one piece meta decks are now approaching $500.How could one justify decks being the cost of fucking MTG and Yugioh?
>>92751025yeah, YGO. i would try pokemon, but as far as i know, it doesn't really have combos like YGO does. i like decks that perform long combos plus, i hate rotation with a passion and expanded doesn't exist here
>>92751066I mean, Pokemon has combos too. They just work different from Yu-Gi-Oh. But if you define "combo" as "a long sequence of cards played uninterrupted to try and reach a certain board state" yeah, Pokemon definitely has those. Anyway, if it's you who wants to get into Yu-Gi-Oh, and are already aware of the nature of the game, rather than try and make a friend get into it, then I'd probably suggest a different deck. I'd still advice you play a different game than Yu-Gi-Oh, as the TCG is known for poor quality cards, and borderline illegal rarity gaging. The game is way more expensive than it has any right to be. I'd suggest you just play Master Fuels and collect cards from the OCG that are much cheaper and of better quality.But if you MUST, my recommended deck would probably be Tearlaments. At least in Master Duel, that's definitely what I'd recommend. The deck is extremely fun, extremely flexible, has decently long combos, is easy to freestyle, and plays well on both turns. Though with Kitkallos banned and stuff, idk how well I'd recommend it in paper formats. I have no idea how viable the deck is there. Though considering you were mentioning True Draco which is very low power, it might not be so bad. If not Tearlaments, then probably Branded. Deck is extremely complex with tons of different combos. That, or Branded Chimera. Not only that, but this direction also let's you build a different variety of deck to pivot into. You can play Pure Branded, Branded Tears, Branded Chimera, etc.... all these fusion decks work well with each other, making it a decent investment for your money. Learning Branded will also teach you a lot about how to play the game. No idea about price though.I don't recommend True Draco if you wanna combo though. Draco is a stun deck.
>>92751120again, the learner deck is not for me. i promise you i'm not one of those "asking for a friend" fags. i'm also not "making" anyone get into YGO. i like the game already and they want to try it
>>92751150It's hard to say without knowing what your friend likes. But iirc, Branded has a structure deck. So just pick up a couple of those and build a deck for him out of it. Throw in some Despia cards. Stun decks do a poor job of teaching people how to play. Branded, at a beginner level at least teaches people "resolve Branded Fusion and make Mirrorjade," and it's easy to expand from there as you upgrade the deck.
>>92749899Why'd you think it was dead. Also tell me about it.
>>92746566I like the game but Bandai really make it hard to get into in person, getting the cards is such a hastle i've basically given up at this point.
How do i cope with the fact i've spent 2 grand on a game i ended up not liking?
SWUbros, do you find you mostly run two aspects or three in a deck? It seems like three gives you a bigger carpool, but does punish you for trying to play something that need two of the same aspect.
>>92751307Did you make any friends?
Just tried the Sorcery start decks, really liked them. I played with my brother. Reminded me of playing mtg as kids with him, before it got all gay.It's too bad the booster packs are really hard to find though. (Except for at ridiculous markup.)Any other anons play Srocery?
>>92751307The knowledge that you can sell it for 2.2k
>>92751307depends which game anon
>>92751329No, everybody around that game has a stick up their ass and can't stand you being happy about winning one in a hundred matches>>92751369I'm not an investor, i wanted a fun game, now i'm stuck with maybe 2 cards that are over 100$ and about 16 lbs of bulk>>92751379It's fab, fuck fab
>>92751558Well then you simply fucked up 100%
>>92749870got a box Tuesday, pulled SCR Frieza along with stuff for Yellow and Red which I was hoping for most, gonna give it a week or so before I buy up singles for my decks
>>92751059What is the goal of this post?
>>92751737To convince FAB players to come play One Piece since it's much more affordable.
>>92751746What strong budget decks that are easy to pilot should a new player to one piece in North America build when the supply is fucked, inflating prices?
>>92751558How the hell did you spend 2k on a FaB deck? 200, 600 sure but 2k? Did you buy multiple decks before checking if you even like it?
>>92752057don't ask me I don't play shit games
>>92752131I don't have a deck, i have a collection, i liked the game at first but i suppose it's not what i expected in the end
>>92752057You can build Reiju for like 50 bucks, alternatively you could build a Nami deck for 50 bucks also and watch the world burn.
>>92751059Since you are talking about top meta deck prices.From what I gather prizes for OP tourneys are really good value even in relatively small online ones, seems really easy to "get your money back" simply by playing in a few competitions. Yugioh seems to constantly have shit prizes that will never cover even the gas you spent getting to the event.
>>92751558>I'm not an investor>about 16 lbs of bulkBUY SINGLES
>>92752805>>92751558
>>92752386Nami is more than $50 now because love love beam is $10 and pilaf is $5
>>92752941>pilaf is $5no fucking way
>>92751185>why did I think it was deadAbout three weeks ago the creator basically said it was dead, via an announcement on the official d*scord. "Team members don't have time", "trying to figure out how to get last set sold as playsets", "thanks for the memories", etc.Then yesterday he announced they found a new production partner and are releasing the third set at Origins in June.>the gameIt's aiming to be a "fixed magic" of sorts: all cards can be be put into "soul row" to tap for mana; 6 "prize" cards that the opponent can play at a discount as you activate them; lots of effects that move cards between graveyard/being a land/being a creature. Also both current sets were designed for - and are fun to - draft.
>>92751317It's pretty rare to drop an aspect, the double cards mostly aren't that good. If anything, it's more common to see people eat the +2 and just run them in a normal deck than to double dip into blue or whatever, like green Krennic running Vigilance or green Han running Bodhi.>>92751059Isn't it the same situation as SWU, where there's just not enough sealed product? OP is going on set 8+, so there's less excuse than for a brand new game, but every time I've looked at OP roughly 100% of the box value was in chase variants like manga alt arts.
>>92750267Oh that king death on is pretty cool. I'd shred with that.
Had some fun with Fusion World sealed today. I like casual gaming.
Today's Build Divide reveal is a Rare from set 14.Yog-SothothWhen you would play this card, you may play it for 1B less for each color of the Ace cards in your Cemetery.During this turn, all your opponent's units get Power -6000.
>>92753180>It's pretty rare to drop an aspect, the double cards mostly aren't that good.Sort of what I figured the answer would be. Seemed better to have a bigger pool of options.>'t it the same situation as SWU, where there's just not enough sealed product?I'd love for a TCG based on a popular IP to not pull this artifical scarcity bullshit. Motherfuckers selling SWU booster boxes for $100+ over MSRP like FFG didn't known it'd sell like crazy.
>>92753994We Cthulhu now
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>>92753994Isnt there a command in the first set that already does this?
why do FnB players only see value on it's cards based on monetary value? lmao
>>92751368I do, also got into it recently, game is really fun. It somehow scratches several fo the itches I need in my tcgs, but it's also very pretty to look at.
>Rewards shop launches>only thing I can afford is the asscrack promo>must play at least 14 months to get something reasonably good-looking>or win a 64+ person tournament>or open 14 boxesim dying, there aren't even any events near me
>>92755859I really hope that it doesn't get really popular in the tournament scene and end up with super optimized decks.I've had lots of fun with the precons, but I'd love to open some packs and have some fun brewing.What have you played with so far, just the precons?
>>92755981I've been only playing with my friends, and we first started with precons but then moved on to "optimized decks", which roughly translates to going to curiosa.io and looking through different decks and building what seems fun/interesting.
>>92755944you can buy the codes if you are desperate for some of the cards, but I think the idea is more for those to be long term awards you can aim for by playing.
>>92755834They...don't?...
>>92756088Some of them are long-term, but for the most expensive ones (Color out of space, cloud city), they are intended to be limited time offerings and never reprinted, as stated in their video.
>>92756127Sure dude, just ask any of them if they would care for Kayo Armory if it wans't for the new cards value.
>>92756756I care about it because it's a good card I want in my deck.Such cards tend to be valuable in T(rading)CGs.Does this really need to be explained to you?
>>92754083>FFG didn't known it'd sell like crazyThey printed several times the amount they did for Destiny.
I do like the extended art promos from the kickstarter, hope the normal card uses the same art
>>92757150Man the whole art is so full of soul. I fucking love Warlords
>>92755981I'm going to call you extremely retarded for not researching the game at all.There are three player groups for the game which is competitive, kitchen table, and investors.The fact that there is only one set a year, no reprints have been announced, and the fact that it's a small card pool it will only be optimized decks.If you aren't playing with people who think the game is just fun or neat of course you will be stomped but fist you would even have to find a scene for the game
Today's SWU reveals are another batch of cards hitting all eras. Boba arrives as another leader, green/white, alongside a personal upgrade in yellow. In red and blue, some new bounties and bounty hunters, including Jango Fett, and in green/white some generic units with keywords for Boba to play with. Lastly the Armorer as a payoff card for Mandalorian decks.
>>92758091Every time I see a cool card I get extremely upset because it just makes the game look worse.Whoever is supposed to coordinate the artists and designs really needs to be fired
>>92757804Her right arm looks like it's not attached to anything and is on a different layer of the image
>>92752386Does Reiju work without the expensive pieces and what do I move the deck pieces into after she leaves the future meta? I thought blue mill Nami required a galaxy brain to pilot.
Is Masters a better game than FW right now? FW just seems so barebones at this point.
>>92758504The only expensive piece you NEED is Reiju herself and even then she's only 12.50 so basically you blow your 50 dollar budget on a playset of Reiju and then you go to locals and tell them you're new and ask for donations since literally everything else is common bulk from new set. The Reiju card itself is really strong so she can easily be moved into any future purple decks or even sold for a profit.
>>92758765Depends on what kind of game you want, Masters was already getting pretty crazy back in the block they introduced Multicolor cards in. With Unions and the Z-deck I can only imagine it's gotten crazier. I think the two games are on opposite ends of the spectrum, FW is too simple, but Masters is too complex, with leftist meme levels of card text, an extra deck and card cost not at all correlating to what you actually pay for them.
>>92757804Who is this supposed to be?
>>92758444There's several anatomical errors actually. To be fair, it's a bit of a difficult pose, but they should have taken a photo of a model or something to help get it correct.
>>92759297Baobhan Sith
>>92758841I have a question about the playerbase for the game and I want to understand why they get extremely angry if you complain about price or not even complain but admit the game is expensive.Yugioh, MTG, and FaB will admit the game is expensive and won't lie and say playing non meta decks will get you results at locals.Every TCG player knows that meta is played everywhere but One Piece players refuse to accept this.
Should I make a new WIXOSS pastebin?now there's a new deck builder and they don't use that shop list anymorealso I have to put the stupid facebook page I guess
Sorcery is the only acg game I actively hate and hope to fail.I'll shit on lots of games but in the end I'm glad people enjoy playing them but there isn't a single thing surrounding sorcery that doesn't anger me.>Using the term alpha and beta sets you make hype>making arts that will never be reprinted immediately >precons aren't even legal for constructed play as deck count is wrong>dust system>appealing to investors >one set a year>takes up a large amount of space >is partly a board game>horrible online playerbase >99% of stores that sold the product don't host events>and so much more
>>92760310If it's outdated and you want to make it easier for people to get started then it would be a good idea
>>92760352I dont play irl so I dunno if people would actually use it but I guess I should
>>92759524Idk, I play One Piece but Yugioh is my main game. My best guess is that alot of One Piece players are new fags who started buying cards specifically Pokemon cards because Logan Paul said Pokemon cards are cool which started a entire fucked up scalper market that they came to just believe is the norm. So anyways they ride Pokemon for a year or two and then One Piece comes out and you know how big One Piece is with normies so it's like "oh hey I actually like One Piece more then Pokemon" and thus you have all of these people who are just use to bending over for scalpers playing One Piece. The people bending over don't want to hear you complain because then they feel stupid for paying double for sealed and the scalpers don't want to hear you complain because it's their golden goose, It's the only explanation I can think of.
>>92760319Which one is Sorcery again?>is partly a board gameWdym, and why is this bad?
>>92759315>>92757804Is this a FATE TCG, or is it a Collab?
>>92760495>Which one is Sorcery again?the kickstarter game that takes inspiration from mtg
>>92758091Oh boy, another Boba Fett. Just what we needed.Is set 2 just gonna be filled to the brim with fucking Mandolorians? Because if there's one thing Star Wars could do with less of it's those fucking cunts.>>92757190It does give old school RPG vibes. Reminds me of that old D&D TCG Spellfire.
>>92760495>Which one is Sorcery again?the shitstarter mtg knockoff that is on life support as we speak
>>92760503FGO collab
>>92760565I'm the one who wrote how much they hate sorcery but I wouldn't call the game on life support.The game at the moment is making money but it's in the metazoo situation where a large amount of the purchases are specualtors and also kind of mirros early flesh and blood expect they don't have a CEO actually pushing events or people playing the game at stores as sorcery does have a player base but not one that actually play outside their house
>>92760565I'm the one who wrote how much they love sorcery but I would say the game is on life support.The game at the moment is not making any money but it's in the flesh and blood situation where a large amount of the purchases are players and also kind of mirros early metazoo expect they have a CEO not pushing events or people investing in the game as sorcery does not have a player base but has people that actually play inside their house
>>92760439Holy projection batmanWhy would collectors be complaining the game costs too much to play?
Set releases stress me the fuck out.I just want my cards but I didn't pull what I wanted and shipping for buying singles takes forever and I'm too autistic to talk to people for trades it's a whole ordeal. I need a playset of everything blue basically I didn't pull SHIT.
>>92760510>>92760565>the kickstarter game that takes inspiration from mtgThat describes most western TCGs. Is it the chess one with Frank Frazetta art?
>>92760943why don't you just google it, asshole?
>>92760946Because I don't feel like it, deal with it.
>>92761039remain clueless then
>>92760851Release weekend is the best time to split boxes with randoms. Take 2 colours each and you can get all the blue you want.
>>92760943yes
>>92750688700? Huh no
How long until tri-color leader cards in One Piece?
>>92761283Probably won't happen. Card pool isn't deep enough.
>>92760848I think you missed the point.>>92761283>>92761290Took DIGIMON set 16 to get tri color and jp one piece is just about to release set 8 so we’re about half way there.
>>92747666How long until the ALT decks come out in English? Super keen for those.
Blazing Aura sucks
>>92761572>me when I see sorcery at my lgs
>>92761564Cant wait for endless Red bullshit.
>>92761572>on my way to post "FUCK FAB" in /acg/
>>92761894While I'm an anime fan, I really don't think this fits with Warlord that well. All the other cards have a great "classic fantasy" vibe and I'd rather all the cards keep it.
>>92761925As it is a reprint maybe it was more of a case of "we didn't get the rights for the art so lets do something different with it"Hope they don't go with the "chibi" art style for the normal set
>>92761330What point did I miss? The zoomer drones you're complaining about for following trends are a separate group to the people who want cards to play the game
>>92760560>Is set 2 just gonna be filled to the brim with fucking Mandolorians?They're one of the themes of the set, yeah. Set two is about underworld stuff; bounty hunters, criminals, paramilitaries, etc. They're mostly in red and blue, though, and for example red is also full of bounty hunters. So it's not like they're half the cardpool or anything.
Today's Build Divide reveal is an Ultra Rare from set 14.Giga GravityDeal 1 damage to your opponent.<Territory> [Legacy - (2B, 2B, 2C)]
BEHOLD, A PLAYABLE HYPER DRIVER CARD
They mostly use it to run scammy rarity distributions, but I do have to hand it to Japanese tcgs, they almost universally have cooler rarity names than western tcgs.
>>92762660Who are you talking to, schizo?
>>92762748I could fix her
>>92760851a playset of everything blue is easy to get. sans zamasu-related cards, i got everything other than SRs and SCR for blue for $13. going to wait for the vegito price to go down before buying. not like i have anyone to play with IRL, just need the cards for the regionals in June.
>>92760851>buying packseveryone point and laugh at this cocksucking retard
>RedMore nerfing stuff>BlueZamasu cope and garbage>GreenDude Ramp lmao>YellowMore Rest ControlAll in all a pretty awful second set
>>92762855play masters retard
>>92762855NOOO MY SHITTY 3 AWAKEN LEADER IS GOING TO BE TOP TIER!
>>92762748Uzuri bros... We're in
>>92762855as a blue Vegeta chad since day 1 i feel i am eating good in set 2. too bad green just got even better and will still be 70%+ of the field
>>92763090>too bad green just got even better and will still be 70%+ of the fieldNah, red gatekeeps green this set.
>>92762179I suppose if I bought a box I could just give all the mandos away to other people or a local shop.
Oh shit
i bought into dbs masters
>>92763624Are you just trying to collect? The game is absolutely dead at least at a local level. Maybe you could find webcam shit but huge emphasis on the shit.
>>92763632i have friends
>>92763633so you're all just pissing money down the toilet for a dead game? I guess who am I to judge how retards spend their money
>>92763401
>>92763639seethe, nofriends loser
>>92763644>James made Betsy so he could make TITS in the next setThe prophecy was true...
>>92762562I can fix her
>>92763794kek they really brought this literally who game back just to scam people like every other shitstarter TCG. shameless. anyone who pledges is a fucking retard
This is cool because it is a good warlord + a staple of her deck (thankful for them using the normal art)
>>92763812It is a shame that you didn't experienced Warlord during its 11 year run before the creator/company decided they didn't want to continue publishing it (and other ccgs for that matter)(rip og L5R)
>>92763639anon, you're in /acg/. everybody here is pissing away money on dead games. this is the general of that thing.
>>92763136do you think it will actually be enough to discourage people from playing it? if green has just 1 bad matchup that's still really good.
>>92762859Masters wont be updated ever again
>>92757523I just wanna play kitchen table with a couple of my friends, without the gayness that is modern mtg. Sorcery seems perfect for that so far.>>92756078How have you been getting more cards? Buying singles? any interesting decks to share?
>>92764354source?
>>92762022It's the zoomer drones who are making sealed product expensive which ends up making singles expensive for those that want to play, it's all connected.
>>92764669Fusion World is their cow now
$525k has gotta be my boy Fasolt.Let's send 'em flying.
>>92764749so no source?
>>92764759This, right?It is 100% him. But the $525k is another card, Fasolt and the chibi warlords (kek) are independent of the money goals, they require some social-media-KS engagement to unlock.
>>92764802Oh right! Well hopefully the community unlocks him because I love that goofy fucker.
>>92763644Damn. I'm going to have a stiffy all game.
Was One Piece shit when it first released? FW is just so fucking bad, I can't imagine how they could fix it.
>>92764987Theres still copium about Black diversifying the gameplay
This set is really sexy. They are really trying for the Japanese audience.I wish that was me.
>>92765037whats up with his nose?
>>92765194Socratic phenotype
>>92765037>This set is really sexy....no
>>92765037there's nothing sexy about a game where every player is a fat neckbeard
>>92765308So*
>>92763794Yay crocodiles!Can a Warlordbro tell me what it means when characters have multiple modifiers in their attack stat?
>>92765381When they turn to attack they have that many strikes.
>>92763639as oppose to retards like (You) pissing money down the toilet for a non-dead game whose cards always drop in value lmao
every good game uses life decks. all my homies love life decks
>>92765617Name 5 good games that use lifedecks.
>>92765633there aren't even 5 good card games in existence
>>92765633 MSuperOne PieceGate RulerVanguardDigimon
>>92765695Those use life cards, not life decks. Retard.
>>92765706You’re the retard as a deck is nothing but a collection of cards.
>>92765738>w-well, t-technically, the dictionary s-says...See?
>>92765695KEK
I hate the One Piece franchise, but it'd be retarded to say the art in that game doesn't blow FW's out of the fucking water. Really sad to see. You'd think DB, of all things, would be high-profile enough to warrant some effort for fuck's sake.
>>92765695Shields and damage cards are not life decks.
>>92764389>How have you been getting more cards? Buying singles? any interesting decks to share?Buying singles over the discord marketplace. I usually go to curiosa.io/decks, select the avatar/elements I am interested in and then go down looking through what I like. I am still new to the game so the decks I post might be "meta" or "old new", but I wouldn't know.https://curiosa.io/decks/clthj6qke007uj3y838mocdhu - seemed funny because it uses both lord if the void and ultimate horrorhttps://curiosa.io/decks/cluxz74rq00015sxw4g3d7eq3 and similar versions that get to blow up the board and then you refill your lands with your avatar.https://curiosa.io/decks/clf3gywls001xjs0fq0oymxrw - get big punch face, similar for the battlemage decks, except those are more equipment basedAlso any of the Enchantress/Pathfinder decks look fun since they also play very differently.
I truly despise sealed formats.
>>92766313I truly despise single-sleevers. Whenever one of their expensive cards curl, I smile.
I will always prefer lifepoints to lifeclothes
>>92765633ScoreZ PanZGundam WarStar Wars (Decipher)ScoreZ
which tcg has the most normal players who know how to shower?
>>92766666The one with the least amount of players
>>92766666MtG (paper Vintage format only).
>>92763401I'm calling I now, misty niggas are going to be hard to beat. Forcing your opponent to spend cards is how you win the game.
fusion world was a test to see how to improve masters. they already incorporated the new mechanics in masters after seeing how much people liked them (energy markers, etc.). fusion world will die off once people get tired of throwing vanillas at each other over and over, all according to bandai's plan.
>>92766666FaB, Digimon, Lorcana
>>92766980>FaB, Digimon
>>92766882this is bait but fuck you. energy markers are fucking retarded and easily one of the worst design decisions. there's no situation that, given the choice, you'd go first. the marker gives you a ludicrous advantage, not to mention you get the first attack as well.
>>92767263explain what an energy marker is to people who don't play
>>92767275just fucking google it, retard.
>>92766882Literally the only person I've seen mention them went on a rant about how busted they are and how 3 blue cards were banned or erattad for doing what energy markers did.
>>92767275Basically this, but in the companion zone.
>>92767287it's like having the coin in hearthstone. something for the player going second
>>92767335if you think this is equivalent to an energy marker, you're retarded
Looking to tune up my old Muzica deck and replace Fragarach, Dagger Type:Zwei, For Barbarian, and Deus// Memoria. Thinking about replacing Salvage the future for Energy Door. Any other aspects I could improve in?
>>92767361Sorry, forgot to post the Link.https://dexoss.app/deck/663ecd40899e4d9474a8a462
>>92767344You're right, an energy marker is better.
anybody got the last rulebooks and shit for metazoo? can't find shit
>>92767423i was also right about you being retarded
>>92767424there's but one role: buy high sell low
>>927674241. Buy high2. Sell lowThems the rules.
>>92767335Trunks goes in the cuddle zone. <3
>>92764715Singles for the newer sets are pretty cheap and single for older sets are expensive because they were woefully underprinted
>>92767530Someone needs to make a game where you can send lolis and shotas to the cuddle zone.
>>92766406Is there a reason in particular? The life cloth of Wixoss meshes really well with the general mechanics and pace of the game and does something life points can’t. I wouldn’t want it in every game but even the basic shield design as a catch-up mechanic (damage to hand) has its place in game design.
>>92767361>>92767367Energy Door is a solid pick. Miasma Labyrinth is another great option due to its versatility. And Aggressive Night might work well for you; Choose and discard, ener 3, -15k does a lot of work and can mesh with Sanga to increase your options in the ener zone. I also don’t think MGD is great for Diagram and have had more success with Xeno.You can switch Baal for Berenices. Her targeted mill is very good whether you want stuff in your trash or just want to aim for an early refresh of the opponent. Even without Salvage, Berenices, Lanling, and Phalaris regularly mill my opponent even if they can reset their deck with Innocent Battle. Also, Phalaris and Myuu are better choices than Iona. For budget Phalaris try Oryzill if you want to try reliable milling. That’s another reason why you might pick Labyrinth other Door but that’s a little more niche.I go with Imp over the SIGNI like Charon since they dodge a lot of common removal and ener burn effects. If you are trying for a more control/grind build Kiyosumi and Typhon are really annoying to the opponent. Kiyo gives you more green for Barbarian and Typhon is just hard to remove. Maybe take out 1 Eresh and 1 Anna for one of them? I’d personally dump both Ereshkigal but her and Anna’s numbers can go pretty low with Sanga “drawing” and Labyrinth (or Door setting up Sanga). 16 level 1s is a lot too, if you were looking for cuts.Other general recommendations: Caesar. Great fucking card. Your deck won’t have her online turn 2 in almost any scenario but the assassin is strong as a finisher or cheap hit in the mid game.Also look at Welcome Back. Burst can get guards and it’s great if you go more trash toolbox. Contempora can ruin the opponent’s turn too.
>>92767530Fuck off Mai
>>92767831Thanks for the suggestions, here's what I have planned right now. I'm gonna focus on upgrading my Urith deck first before the Muzcia. Cause I just recently upgraded the former and my Urith deck hasn't been modified since I got it. I have two phalaris' from it so I can spare the other to replace 1 iona. https://dexoss.app/deck/66404814dc7a85bccae6c825
>dexossHoly fucking shit theres actually a legit wixoss sim now?
>>92768255Also to add, could I use Green Type: Gas Instead of Imp? Stat wise they're pretty much the same and I have a lot of them.
>>92768270NVM, I understand why due to a low amount of blue ener, I just realized that now.
metazoo is making a comeback
>>92768483Guess I'll buy in. Thanks for the heads-up.
Never forget, you MUST hate Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler is becoming an LCG what the fuck
>>92768557Would they be the first Japanese LCG?
>>92768564no clue. probably. just seems like an odd decision. apparently the boxes are $200 each and they only contain ONE HALF OF A PLAYSET of each card, so you need 2 of the boxes to get everything you need
>>92768491get off my property
Digimon is barely relevant. You'd think it's top 3 if you only went on 4chan.Fucking 40 year olds play that game.
>>92768837>You'd think it's top 3 if you only went on 4chan.don't fucking lie to me bitchwe're all fucking here and none of our asses are buying that shit
Uhhh what the fuck FAB dads?The new assassins cards aren't appropriate for children What if my kids look into my albums... I think it might be time to cash out
>>92768837stop seething about the digimon general already
>>92768570That sounds horrendous, selling full playsets grouped by faction would make more sense
>>92760560>Oh boy, another Boba Fett. Just what we needed.Maybe it is, set one Boba has already fallen out of the meta pretty hard.>>92764987No, One Piece has arguably gotten worse over time and was best in set one. But nobody could buy it. Fusion World is just a bad game at its core game design. I dunno if Masters was better, but I have to assume so given the worst parts of FW are the parts people tell me are different from Masters.>>92768557>>92768570LCGs were invented because they're viable at smaller print runs. It costs a lot to print a TCG. So it's an alternative to death (although probably a temporary one). But boxes being so expensive is to be expected, that's exactly why LCGs aren't more popular for companies. Releasing a standard TCG set in LCG format means a giant box that costs $300-400 up front, or multiple smaller boxes that add up to that. They're not being especially stupid or greedy, those are just the numbers.
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>>92769269>I dunno if Masters was better, but I have to assume so given the worst parts of FW are the parts people tell me are different from Masters.I am still amazed that every change they made for FW was for the worse. Though I think the real issue with FW isn't the core rules, but the card design. Back when it first came out I went through set 1 of Masters, excluding the starterd deck, and there were 7 cards that did something I consider "interesting". In set 1 of FW, including the starter decks, there was 0. Every single card was a bland implementation of a core mechanic, the only one that piqued my interest at all was the 6 cost Gohan, and even then it's not that it's interesting it's that Masters never had life gain.
>>92768885Fabgot
>>92768570>$200 each and they only contain ONE HALF OF A PLAYSET of each cardOh no cultist bros we got cocky...How do we recover from this?
I hate these people more every day.IT'S A JADE DAGGER YOU STUPID FAGGOTS REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>92766666tcgs cater to the autist obsessive phenotype who enjoys gambling, you'll have a hard time finding normal people playing tcgs that aren't dead
>>92769871>phenotypeWhy use a superfluous word if you don't know what it means? You could have easily just said autist obsessive types.
Have you guys had any good experiences with online communities for card games?I've been resistant to go that route because discord and such is usually unfulfilling but I miss playing and having friends who are into these games.
>>92762748>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T SUCK MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
>>92769949I do everything irl since I hate webcam games.
>>92769962I don't see myself playing webcam either unless there isn't a simulator
>>92769925t. autist phenotype
>>92769925Genotype comes nowhere close, while phenotype can always boast.
Idk what you people see in One Piece TCG or Fusion World. Masters was alright since you had counter:play and counter attack, Bandai mismanged that game badly though. One Piece just seems flat boring.Only interesting card game I've last seen design wise was Gate Ruler.But ignore my rant, I'm 26 year olds. So with age comes boredom.
>>92770271>youngling talking about age
>>92769949Very, actually. I didn't get in to it until pandemic years, but it worked out way better than expected. Especially for the smaller /acg/ games and dedgames where getting local matches regularly can be a real challenge. most games have decent sims these days too so you don't have to faff around with TTS or untap. Lots of people I first played online I've subsequently met in person at cons and big regional tournaments.The quality of discord communities of course is going to vary wildly by game, and if it's big enough by the specific discord. In terms of overall trends, the small ones especially for older games, tend to be friendly and have lots of old grogs. games that are very mainstream or appeal more to kids / teenagers are going to be more cancerous on average. It doesn't cost anything to poke around and talk to people. Join some online tournaments or leagues, see who is cool and who sucks.
>>92769949I've had a fun experience overall with wixoss though I keep getting my ass kicked cause I'm not all that great at it. I've had close games on several occasions.>>92767831Here's the concept of an off-team build that I'm considering from your suggestions.https://dexoss.app/deck/6640c46880944fed983eb309
>>92770271>I'm 26 year oldsYou're a baby and you can't spell either
https://twitter.com/BSS_TCG/status/1789641682478309396EVASAGA rarity reveal
>>92770487Wish this set wasn't shit.
>Watching Calling Warsaw>Kano players has a subpar hand facing lethal against Kayo who has lethal on board.>Aether Spindles for scry 9 TWICE.>Kano goes from dead on board turn 3 to dropping his oppnent to 1 before losing.Fuck me. In other news the Dash I/O game yesterday made me want to play her. I am trying to figure out her lines but since her cards seem to be fairly cheap since everyone is looking at the new set now is the time to buy in.
Top 16 for the SCGCon Richmond 4k last weekend. Winning deck was Iden blue.
>>92770271I like FW and liked masters because I like dragon ball. i do wonder if we will eventually see some mechanic that is a pseudo counter attack in FW. the objective was clearly to speed up the game so I don't really think it can be introduced without putting it right back on the path to masters. with active battles we have now, we pretty much have the afterimage counter from masters; it isn't a "true" counter attack but still a reason for defensive energy
>>92770600I always called Kano to be the first to LL, and quickly. Glad to see he's proving me right. I expect his retirement will give more space for Victor, Rhinar, and Levia to shine, but none of them will be as dominant.Fuck Kayo, regardless.
>>92770847>I always called Kano to be the first to LLAbsolutely the most broken and OP hero ever released. Kano is going to set the record for fastest LL ever.FUCK KANO
>>92767549Yes.
>>92770847Flip Kayo and Kano in this, shouldn't post pre-coffee.
Conversion rate for day 2 of warsaw calling. Azalea is on top of the charts at the beginning of the day. Brodie "Spit out your whole deck of low cost arrows and buffs" verses Yorgos "New Horizons out here to prove that preparation prevails" are in the first and second spot respectively.
Today's Build Divide reveal is a Rare from set 14.Angel of Sound, Astrid<Territory> [AUTO] When this unit is placed, target up to 1 of your opponent's units with a total cost of 6 or less. Your opponent may flip 2 of their Energy face-down. If they do not, return the target to the hand.
>>92770271One Piece has a free fan sim. Just watch a video about a meta deck and then hop in and play. You’ll see that the game is deceptively deep. There have been some nutty braindead decks but most decks require a brain to pilot and play against.
>>92771141Vynnset? really? HOW? i wanna see the list now
>>92771374Same here. It is conversion rate so they are lower represented whilst winning to make the conversion rate to day 2.
Here's your champion, bro. Kano wins again!Topdecking a tome of fyendal was clutch for him.
>>92771458Thanks I hate it
>>92763644>>92764878That's why it's face down at the start.
>>92765037>This set is really sexy
Is it mandatory to destroy one of these when I take damage? I hate it when TCG cards don't go out of their way to specify everything extremely clearly. Especially when they have all the room in the world for a few more words.
>>92771303>You’ll see that the game is deceptively deep. There have been some nutty braindead decks but most decks require a brain to pilot and play against.LMAOThere is nothing big brain about any yellow deck, Sakazuki, Moria, or RP Law. One Piece is absolutely a braindead monkey game.
>>92772034must be the reason why so many hoodrats play it
>>92772007Yes, if you take damage then you NEED to destroy this to prevent one damage. If you watch the blitz videos that are on the FAB youtube you will see that the player blocks a lot so that you can keep his board of auras up.
>>92772094One pop and you lose all of your board? That's kinda weird and it sounds kind of weak but okay. Thanks.
>>92772128No, if you have 7 shields and you are dealt 3 damage then you destroy 3 shields to prevent that 3 damage. You will have 4 remaining. You can't CHOOSE to keep all 7 shields in lew of taking the 3 damage.
>>92772128>>92772156However, if you have a Ward 2 card an you take 1 damage then the Ward 2 needs to be popped.
>>92772156>>92772170That's better for sure. Thanks.
>>92771303>deceptively deepLol okay
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>>92765320Magic and YGO?
