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I just want to share this funny story because I haven't had it happen ever before while I was at a bar or out in general.

I'm straight but if i'm being honest, I don't think i've ever seen a man this handsome in person in my life.

I arrived at the bar with about 6 friends. It was a mix of 3 girls and 3 guys. We're just there dancing and vibing together.

Then after about 15 minutes, this dude and his 2 friends walk in. His friends are average but he looks like a variation of Nick Bateman or Sean O Pry.

Once this dude came to the standing round table where you can stand, drink, and socialize; the girls in our group almost immediately opened conversation with him while not even giving his friends any attention.

I was just there observing the whole ordeal. I actually told the dude that my friend (The girl) thinks hes attractive. He then said he already has a girlfriend so he can't get with her.

Even still, they and a bunch of other girls for the next 30 minutes while we were there gave the dude no break in conversation or attention. Every girl in that bar was watching this dude.

After we all returned to the hotel lounge, these girls could NOT stop talking about how attractive he was. Like it got to the point where they were telling strangers and sharing around his Instagram since he shared it. (No, i'm not going to share it).

After this ordeal, I realized the playing field is truly uneven. This is coming from me who goes out often and does well.

I can only imagine how easy it is for this guy. I've never in my life looked at a guy and thought (damn, he looks like he was sculpted). Some dudes are truly living on easy mode.
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>>77427933
I lived in a house with multiple models for a few years in London (male and female).

You cannot even imagine 1% of the pretty privilege they experience in the daily basics.
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Have you considered that bar culture attracts certain types of women?
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>>77427933
Female instinct to hunt for best possible genes for offspring still very strong in modern society.
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>>77427933
The same way extremely handsome men have it easy is the same way extremely beautiful women do as well. 9s are still 9s regardless of gender.

That being said, if that man's game was off, it would affect his results. If he acted weird, awkward, or dumb, it would turn most of those girls off.

Your appearance only determines initial interest. You still need good game to turn that initial interest into results.

But yeah, of course that dude gets a lot more initial interest than the average guy does, making it easier for him by way of more opportunities, but that's life. Everyone gets dealt different hands and you make do with what you got.
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>>77427948
Well, is it female instinct really? Not like us men are any different. We want to put our semen into as many women as possible, yes, but we definitely dance around women we are most attracted to the most. And it sure isn't because of her sense of humor.
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>>77427948
It will never go away, animals are always evolving.
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>Extremely attractive people are treated like they are extremely attractive
wow mind blown!!!
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>>77427933
On the flip side, maybe it's lonely knowing everyone only cares about your looks and not your personality at all (I would trade places in an instant).
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>>77427933
Seen something similar a few times before too. >>77427960
>That being said, if that man's game was off, it would affect his results. If he acted weird, awkward, or dumb, it would turn most of those girls off.
Complete cope, he would just become misterious or whatever.
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>>77428002
>maybe it's lonely knowing everyone only cares about your looks and not your personality at all
As far as I can tell, the 10/10 attractive people I've met aren't aware of this dynamic at all. They are just used to getting positive feedback all the time and don't question it
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>>77427960
This is true, but in practice, guys like this are rarely socially awkward. They get so many chances to practice that they naturally calibrate their social skills over time.

To your point though, life isn't fair. You play the hand you're dealt and do the best with what you have.
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>>77427933
I know a guy like that but he's gay. All the girls are still obsessed with him but he's actually obsessed with me. He's on here liking my selfies and trying to suck my dick

Clown world lmfao
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>>77427933
I met 2 guys like that at the beach once. But they weren't super models. They were just fit and really tall. My girl cousins and aunties wouldn't talking about them afterwards. Talk about a reality check
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>>77428110
super based lol
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>>77428110
Hahahahaha funny story.
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>>77428226
Every time I see gay chads at the club I'm filled with glee bc they have removed women access to themselves lmfao

They have ascended
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>>77428366

>They have ascended
no, they have ascended BEYOND ascension.
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>>77428016
not questioning it also makes them more attractive so its a compounding thing, as it signals they're not full of themselves
"looks don't matter bro, its all about the vibe you give off"
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>>77427933
You are just now figuring out about this stuff?
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>>77427933
>Sean O Pry
Fun fact: I went to middle school and high school with Sean O'Pry. He was in my Junior year home room and we all thought it was a joke when someone said he dropped out to pursue a modeling career in NYC. Obviously he was hugely successful but it still trips me up to see his name and face online.
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>>77427960
>beautiful women have it easier too

Doesn't compare to the allure of chad

Why people twist things this way? The whole point was never that men don't like beautiful women, but that it happens in completely different proportions
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>>77427945
lol guess who's actually the one that doesn't go outside.
You
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>>77427960
>if that man's game was off, it would affect his results.
What the fuck is up with these stupid copers on this board. If he acted awkward the women would excuse it was "cute and quirky" behavior.
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>>77427960
>You still need good game to turn that initial interest into results.
You're an idiot dude. My very handsome friend could literally ask girls to go fuck within 5 minutes and they would agree. I've seen the way they look at him. It's raw, unfiltered lust.
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>>77427960

Absolute nonsense. Attraction overrides everything. You can actively try to sabotage things by saying cringy shit or being offensive and it doesn't work. Pretty much every relationship starts out with two people who want to fuck each other, and then just continuing to fuck.
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>>77428002

It's not. Looks are your personality.
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>>77427933
So what's the hack to get in shape like that? I don't want generic advice, just point me to like an online scam course or maybe even real-life profesionals who focus on this kinda thing. I'd fucking pay for something like that.
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>>77430155

PEDs, genetics, volume training. Every program works, figure out what allows you to max out volume (weight * reps * sets). Usually works out to be 60-70% of your 1 rep max for 15 reps, for 5 sets.
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>>77430236
This is exactly what I call generic advice. I do calisthenics btw, so weight isn't a part of my equation.
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>>77430260
You just need to roid and do progressive overload. You'll look like the guy in the OP in about year after your final cut to get that shredded look. Skip calisthenics and go to the gym for easier results and look up information on steroid cycles online. It's as simple as that.

The alternative is lifting naturally 10 years with strict diet and having god-tier genetics to look like a slightly worse version.
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>>77430309
Without roids that's like 5 years of training, assuming you have good genes. I'm 2 years into training and already look like a discount version of him.
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>>77427933
You see it online too
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>>77427933
>I can only imagine how easy it is for this guy. I've never in my life looked at a guy and thought (damn, he looks like he was sculpted). Some dudes are truly living on easy mode.
Had a friend in high school like this. Everywhere we went girls would walk up to him and say hi. Doesn't mean he always got every girl though. But no matter where we went there would always be women staring or approaching him.
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>>77430260

>This is exactly what I call generic advice

And that's exactly why you'll fail. I don't know shit about you or your capabilities. That's something you have to figure out. Maybe you can sling weight and hit max volume at 50% weight, maybe you can bump it to 80. It's literally just steroids + volume + eating a shitload until you cut. Do whatever lets you hit the most volume, eat whatever foods allow you to cram the most protein and calories in your body without throwing it all up.

It's not generic, it's personal. It's you who has to figure out what you're going to be capable of doing. All programs work.
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>>77427933
They were just attracted to his positive and confident vibes. What you should have done is ask him for pointers!
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>>77427960
>The same way extremely handsome men have it easy is the same way extremely beautiful women do as well.
Not exactly. In todays world a 6/10 20yo woman gets much of the attention, kindness, encouraging words and ego boasts that a 9/10 male gets. Unless you're grotesquely disabled, old or extremely ugly then a vagina is basically a pass to living life on easy mode. Men don't come close unless they're tall and 9/10 in looks. An extremely beautiful 9/10 woman is on a higher plain of existance altogether.
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>>77427948
>best possible genes
Stop with this. It is only based on attractiveness.
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>>77427960
>most of those girls off.
As opposed to all of those girls off when you aren't good looking.
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>I'm straight but if i'm being honest
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>>77427970
>am i right fellow men?
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>>77429630
yeah, it needs to be extremely awful in order to lose interest. the difference b/w people wanting to like you and dislike you is like night and day.
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>>77427933
Well...not exactly.

I have a cousin that is a female model and I have another cousin that is a male model (we are Dutch so I guess we have nice genes)

A lot of models are forced to work as escorts. The modeling industry is a lot like indentured servitude; the model housing structure is incredibly exploitative and basically forces female models into debt. Models are then forced to go to clubs, bars, and different social events to balance their debt by promoters. These same promoters act as their pimps.

A lot of MALE models also work as escorts for gay men even if they are not gay. Gay men have an entire fetish about forcing masculine straight men into being gay and that is especially true for male models.
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>>77430138
Ok listen, looks do matter. In 2024 I actually got plastic surgery.

I got cheek raising, brow filling implants, which improved my looks 1-2 points on the 10/10 scale.

However what I discovered from this experiment, was that looks do not matter as much as being emotionally REACTIVE.

I have had more women attracted to me after my surgery yes, but they just as quickly lose interest when they see my inept personality.

Men who are REACTIVE - which includes the Robert Downey Jr types who are able to make those witty comments, or those men who are impulsive and risk taking, or most importantly those who are aware of other peoples emotions and are able to ACT - those types of men are what women are looking for.

They is what Donald Trump called "high energy" men.

Imagine James Bond swooping in, pouring a drink before a women even asks for it to be poured. That's the romance novel type of man women are looking for.
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>>77431931
This is really stupid. Yes, people who have a shit ton going for them in life can find ways to fuck it all up. Pic related was a cheerleader in her late 30s for the Baltimore ravens. has 3 kids, married a guy who had a net worth of millions and the guy wasn't bad looking either. She decides to fuck some 15 year old boy and proceeds to lose everything and I mean everything. I'm not condoning cheating, but she could have just not fucked someone underage and the fallout would have not been anywhere nearly as severe.

The reason this is relevant is because of its similarities to what you wrote. Choosing the worst option doesn't mean that you aren't in a very favorable position or that you should be pitied. Now I want to make myself clear, I'm not saying that very attractive people can't have problems. I have a friend who is and grew up in a really shitty environment that has left him scared for life. They could have worked in a really nice restaurant (my friend's girl does this a couple times a week part time and brings home an extra 500 bucks). They could have made pretty decent money finding a job on a super yacht as a server or something similar (not to mention all of the networking opportunities). The whole gay for pay is still something that thing is really fucking stupid as you just find other ways to make money.
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>>77431484
I see this all the time, what is it from?
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>>77427941
You mean family members?
Dorm rooms?
How do you just live in a house with multiple models?
And what ethnic the female models were?
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>>77430351
>assuming you have good genes
like perfect genes
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>>77427933
>Some dudes are truly living on easy mode.
Meanwhile i'm an absolute subhuman with 0 foreskin
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>>77427933
>I can only imagine how easy it is for this guy.
It sounds like it would get old pretty fast. Imagine just wanting to go out to a place with your bros and have a couple of drinks and shoot the shit but women keep interjecting themselves into everything and your friends are left hanging. Especially if the guy already has a girlfriend, this may have been the first time he's been able to go out with his friends in months. But maybe that's just my perspective as a husband and father.
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>>77432300
>Men who are REACTIVE - which includes the Robert Downey Jr types who are able to make those witty comments, or those men who are impulsive and risk taking, or most importantly those who are aware of other peoples emotions and are able to ACT - those types of men are what women are looking for.
I am that type of man, but they'll never give me the time of day period because of how I look. Get a fucking grip. You're far better off than any uggo like me.
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>>77432300
men only act like that because of there looks and a lifetime of positive social reinforcement, a sub five acting confident still gets called a creep
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>>77427933
>an extremely physically attractive person attracts a lot of people
incredible. difficult to believe, even. what's next, you set up a restaurant and a bunch of hungry people showed up?
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I know an alt chad and its just like this. He shows up for 5 minutes all women swoon then for hours later everyone talks about how beautiful he is. Hes like one of those twinks with a mullet and tattoos placed with no pattern or theme. It is pretty insane they live in a completely different world where they are not only seen, they are admired and thought of constantly.
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>those types of men are what women are looking for.
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>>77427960
All these ugly people in the replies thinking they know what it's like to be beautiful. You will never understand The Struggle.
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>>77427970
>We want to put our semen into as many women as possible
Not a single man speaks like this, you are not male. Get the fuck out of my site
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>>77427960
Youre a fucktard and you are coping hard as fuck
1. a very attractive person, 99 out of 100 times, is confident and social, because of his/her good looks people have always gravitated towards them and given them positive attention their whole life. The only exceptions are people who were fat/ugly and glowed up but even these people quickly become more confident
2. halo effect means even if theyre weird or awkward people arent going to register it.
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>>77435710
>shy chad is just him behind a tree
I crack up every time
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>>77435786
>2. halo effect means even if theyre weird or awkward people arent going to register it.
"Weird" or "awkward" only even exist in connection to being unattractive. A chad acting exactly the same will instead just be seen as quirky or special; something positive.
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>>77430364
>women decide if they like you or not within .01 seconds of seeing you
Brutal
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>>77430382
Someone explain the joke
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>>77430410
This is a cope. You think youre a 9 so you say shit like
>dude even super attractive guys dont get compliments
to justify you not getting any attention, when in reality its just cus youre not a 9.
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>>77435846
The woman was conventionally attractive.
The woman has an ex husband or -boyfriend.
The ex did not appreciate her enough to stay in a relationship with her.
The guy in the picture making the post is joking that the ex's lack of appreciation was a "disease" of being deaf, blind and chronically stupid. He is jokingly claiming, that someone would have to be deaf, blind and chronically stupid, to not appreciate the conventionally attractive woman, to break up with her.
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>>77435872
Hmm either im retarded or its not a very good joke if it takes a paragraph to explain it
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>>77435904
It doesn't take a paragraph to understand if you have neurotypical (or superior) social understanding.
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>>77435827
>A chad acting exactly the same will instead just be seen as quirky or special; something positive.
exactly, a chad can tell women to their face he thinks they're inferior and they'll giggle and rationalize it and still let him fuck them (and wonder why he left)
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>>77435919
Nah nigga that joke reads like some Reddit tryhard joke. At first I thought he was insulting her by calling her ex husband blind
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>>77436052
Calling someone blind / stupid / etc. for not appreciating a woman is a stereotypical "joke" at this point. How have you not run into it so far?
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>>77436062
I have only ever seen blind jokes made when the person theyre dating is ugly
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>>77427933
this is why i don't try. it's a horrible feeling to work on a relationship with a woman over the course of a few weeks / months, only to see her go monkey-brained when she sees her first chad. it's not worth it.
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>>77428453
I guess you could call this super ascension 2.
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>>77436354
There is no worse feeling aside from being cheated on. They're pretty close actually. Either way less heartache not trying. They can all take lines slurping.
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>>77427948
Lmao fuck up his face and their behavior changes
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>>77430364
Ive never acted like this for a Stacy once, women are truely subhuman animals joly fuck
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>>77432300
Lol, if I pour a drink for a woman she's gonna think it's roofied. Thank you for your advice, Lord Bogdanoff
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>>77437503
exactly. i could keep pushing if there was even a 5% chance that i'd be that guy in someone's life, but there's not. i can't compete with the average person on the street. better to keep others at an arm's length so i don't get hurt
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>>77435831
>>77437503
This both. Once you realize how big the difference in treatment is, how easely years of efforts to be at least a bit convetionally attractive can be blown off in seconds, how little those efforts really mean in reality, no matter how hard it was for you who struggled, really it is no use trying.
I am like just above average, so almost invisible, and all the girls who ever showed a bit of interest in me were put off by my autism, despite all the hard work I put for years to learn to socialize properly, to get fit, to look and act normal. It was all for nuts.
Then a pretty boy come and get it all, because he is quirky and cute, while you're creepy and awkward. No use exhausting yourself and becoming slowly more and more bitter and suicidal, accepting it was the best thing I did for myself, now i'm much more free and peaceful than I ever was.
Sorry I guess I wanted to vent a bit.
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>>77430364
>>77436354
this is bullshit. almost every single man is a 5 or normal. if you want to increase your range on a scale of 1-10 which every human is dynamically capable of doing, is take a photo of yourself when your face is not bloated, or not puffy, or not pale, or not fat, or you are fit and lean, or is trimmed with a boyish haircut, or is using filters and perfecting the art of angling your best profile towards the camera. if you acknowledge all these things then look at OPs picture again >>77427933
, he is a normal 5 man who is doing a lot of these things to fix himself a better place on a scale of 1-10, and on those days he is puffy or unflatering he gravitates back to being a 5
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>>77438797
and low lighting conditions to accentuate any of your facial geometry or muscle tone and as well if you literally just wear subtle makeup some women will always be too dumb to ever guess
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>>77431211
I am very surprised height isn't higher up. Definitely going to check this out.
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>>77428031
>You play the hand you're dealt and do the best with what you have.
There's no other alternative. Why even say this?
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>>77427948
>in modern society.
Yeah we dont live in caves anymore. Women dont need a male model.
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>>77439150
you think because the conditions changed that over a hundred thousands years of hard wiring will disappear?
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>>77436052
>>77435846
Nope, you're just dumb. I got the subtext immediately.
Sorry mate, you're low IQ.
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Yeah, women are superficial, water is wet. What the hell are you doing in a bar anyway? You're not finding wife material there.
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>>77437715
Why would she think she is going to get 'roofied' if she can clearly see what you are putting in her drink?
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>>77435859
I never said or even hinted that I was a 9. You're either stoned or have a serious reading comprehension problem.
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>>77440891
he already established himself as a normie, anon.
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>>77432300
I am naturally like that and I know from experience that girls love it, but now I see how stupid it is and work on being more composed. I think people want entertainment, that is mostly all. Being like that probably does signal also that you are healthy and a good mate and whatnot.
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>>77441828
>. I think people want entertainment, that is mostly all.
jestermaxing?
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>>77427933
>Attractive people are attractive
thanks for this mind opening insight
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>>77442591
>thanks for this mind opening insight
np
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>>77433370
Not him but a lot of models who are poached from different sides of the world (East euro, North & South America, Asia and so on) are sent to fashion hotspots like London, Paris and NYC between 16-19 to kickstart their career end up living together in dormitories/rented apartment by the modeling agencies to keep them together since after all they're just teenagers who just got uprooted from their local city and are discovering the big city for the first time. It's better to keep them focused, socialized in tight knit groups so they don't scatter here and there and end up fucking up
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>>77443229
this is accurate
og
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>>77438797
>blackops2cel can totally turn into jeremy meeks!
retard
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>>77443938
>blackops2cel
who is that?
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>>77443938
the best gimmick in gaining random peoples attraction is being part of a narrative and dressing like its stereotype, so you have to sell yourself out
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>>77443938
blackops2cel literally just took one really bad photo, and most of his other pictures there is actual things he can do to improve himself
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>>77427960
I mean even game is bullshit. First of course you'll be more confident if women open up to you and you've had more experiences, confidence needs external validation or else it's empty and banal platitudes. Second physical interest is critical, even men know this, they put with a lot of intolerable shit from hot women.
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>>77427933
that's a long way of saying you're a fag



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