>start balding>took the fin then the dut poison>balding stops>boners and sex drive also stopI've been off for almost 7 months. When the FUCK does this shit get out of my system? My balding nor boners are back!
OP here, I forgot to mention that I'm on estrogen btw as I'm currently transitioning.
>>74200492same, no worries anon, it gets better
>>74200476The boners never come back. Its over.
>>74200513falsejust go check your hormones, you may need to manually intervene
>>74200476maybe look into post-cycle therapy?
>>74200476>finasteride is scientifically proven to cause side effects in less than 1% of cases, 99% of which are temporary and disappear when the drug is discontinued>somehow every other person on /fit/ claims that fin permanently damaged their dickreally makes me think
>>74201019realisticly these people don't even take fin, they are so scared of taking it they keep making these types of thread to get a reaction no, even in the very odd chance that your dick go limp you may want to try to intervene either in your lifestyle to improve your libido or hormonally
>>74201019Side effects are reversible in every single case. Finasteride has a half life of 6 hours and your hormone levels will go back to previous levels within 3 months of stopping the drug.What baldcels don't tell you is that like 30% of young men naturally develop some form of ED and then go on to blame it on finasteride/accutane/SSRI...
>>74201051>in every single caseNo. There’s some case were it’s irreversible, but you’ll probably don’t account for them since it doesn’t suit your narrative.OP, talk with a doctor, ideally a specialist (dermatologist or endocrinologist). Maybe Cialis will get the job done, maybe you’ll need another treatment.
>>74201019There’s more threads about fin being a magic treatment with absolutely 0 side effects that every man should take just in case like really, 0% something bad happen when you take a hormone blocking pill everyday for years.It’s like minox, I’ve done 1 year of minox, at first it was alright but at the end I kept having acne on my forehead, the dermatologist told me to start yet another treatment for acne caused by hairloss treatment. Fuck that shit.
>balding>its ok just take fin>boners stop working from fin>its ok just take cialis>high blood pressure from cialis>its ok just take an ACE inhibitor >constant dry cough from ACE inhibitor>its ok just take a different brandand on and on and on and on...
>>74201511The amount of people here who recommend you become a pharmaceutical patient for life to respond to something men have experienced from the beginning of time is hilarious.
>>74200476Idk but I stopped using topical minoxidil because it gave me dark eye circles. I'd rather be bald than have a sickly-looking face. They went away after a few months.
>>74202985ok thats just bro science
i'm balding but fuck taking pills for the rest of my life
>>74201458Fucking where? All I see is>fin is tranny drugs >it breaks your dick forever >it doesn't work >your balls will fall off>one pill ruins you forever>just give up
>>74200476>take fin for three years>keep my hair/boners/libido the whole timefeels good man
>>74203038Ay same! It's no magical regrowth pill but at least I held on to a decent hairline.
>>74201019Its far more than 1%
>>742010192% for EDlibido reduction is way more common but usually doesn't hit you in the first 2-3 months when your test is still elevated
>started dut last november>got booty call from batshit insane BPD ex last week>could only maintain an 80% semi at bestFeels bad bros. I'm not quitting but fuck me. Haven't tried dick pills so fingers crossed. For the record I do have performance anxiety with new girls but I know this bitch's vajajay like the palm of my hand and she's an absolute semen demon. If she can't get a full chub out of (you) there's something wrong with the piping. Simple as.Also 2 guys at my gym used to be on fin but experienced similar issues and now run minox exclusively. One got a hair transplant recently but refuses to get back on fin. He made a point about having absolutely zero libido so maybe he didn't experience ED per se, I didn't push it further.IMO the libido/ED rates are seriously downplayed. 1-2% must be the number of guys who have completely shot off dicks. My guess is that couch potatos and boomers forgot what erections are supposed to be like and are happy with their half-chubs.
My wife left me after I started taking fin because I couldn't get it up anymore.. Careful bros
>>74200476That sucks m8, currently on dut and my boners are still rockin' in the dree world at 31 years of age right now. Main thing that determines my bones tends to be getting shit sleep.
wish I didn't have to take fin but I have no choice. luckily no sides that I've noticed, still get it up with the gf, but I'm young and know it'll fuck me up long term. but once during a balding-related breakdown I shaved my head and kept that for a year, the attention I got from women went to 0, I had women on nights out actively laugh at me when taking my hat off before (cold where I live), balding is a curse and wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy, any man that's bald before marriage is probably going to stay single forever, it makes me feel like I've got a strict clock on my life and time is running out, I fucking hate it
>>74204378>it makes me feel like I've got a strict clock on my life and time is running outBeen there, but long as the fin is working for you you're good. Take the pill and forget about it.
>>74204391I'm only 23 anon, I know I'm fucking up my long-term development and I'll be bald by 30,35 latest. I wanted to travel, be free for at least a bit of my life, but if I do that I'll lose my hair and be alone for the rest of it
Time to hear from people who took a drug and didn't personally perceive any negative effects so they assume nothing bad is happening and nothing noticeably bad could possibly happen to anybody else. Just follow the science from these FDA trials in 1997 that were funded by the manufacturer its perfectly safe and effective, only 1% of people get side effects! just a coincidence that actual trannies love this drug. absolute morons
>>74204419New treatments are two years out, hold on for a while until GT200029 is market.
I take 1mg fin mon wed fri and have no sides and my hair grew back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQdChVrUP3E
>>74204627Kid needs to shave that shit and go cueball, it's better than what he's got there. Or get himself a hairpiece. Man. Poor kid. 21, short, and bald.
>>74201019>only 1%>only 2%>only 3%>only 4%how come you shills can never get your numbers straight? and why can you never post hair with timestamp?
>>74204378>it makes me feel like I've got a strict clock on my life and time is running out, I fucking hate itis this what women feel like when their eggs are slowly dying
>>74204667Nah, white women are told all numbers of copes to try to depopulate white people.>women hit peak fertility at 29 actually!>you can freeze your eggs!>I knew someone who had a baby at 40!>you can use IVF it works perfectly!>having kids holds you back in life!Balding bros know well that as soon as they see the signs of thinning, there is a time limit on their attractiveness to women.
>>74201019would it be wild and unethical for them to botch the studies in order to sell more of this vanity drug?
>>74200476cut them pills brah
Why oh why couldn't I have learned about finasteride when my hairline was still salvageable?
>>74205260It's been around for like 30 years anon, and is one of the first things that come up when you google "medical treatments for hair loss". Dunno what you want to be told here.
>>74200476fin killed my dick and I still take it anon. Worth
>>74204666post test levels with time stamp troon
>>7420101937yo hereCan confirm that fin definitely caused ED in me, a few weeks after starting taking it morning wood became rare, erections are noticeably softer.However as I'm a cel this doesn't really matter. Only the psychological factor that I'm "less of a man" weighs on me
>>74205317It's more that I wasn't looking for fixes at all, because I didn't know it was even possible to be losing follicles as a teenager
>>74200476>fin slows and even mildly reverses my hair loss>minoxidil hyper responder, even my eyelashes are getting longer>literally not a single problem with erectionsGood to be king.
>>74205329>takes androgen blockers>calls other people troonsnice project retard
>>74201669This
>>74201019Extremely vocal minority, as is the case with anything. There's hundreds of millions of men on fin worldwide just being quiet about it who are living normally. I've been on it for about 5 years now and I still get a blowie every morning from the gf then plap her cheeks 5-6 days/week. Our primary sex hormone is test, and that actually goes up by a few % on fin since it's not being wasted aromatizing into DHT, so getting ED from fin doesn't even make any sense. The "don't take these tranny pills it will give your ED!!" shill voices are just too loud and are noceboing a fuck ton of young guys
>>74201669Yeah I also use Sinutab when I've got congestion even though humans have been dealing with congestion since the beginning of time. What kind of retard argument is this?
>>74201019>1% of cases, 99% of which are temporaryBig pharma runs self reported studies like this that are designed to underreport side effects. I noticed this when I was researching adderall. A side effect for adderall is loss of appetite, ask anyone who takes adderall, this is something that everyone who takes adderall experiences, the studies that big pharma runs on adderall say stuff like "14% experience loss of appetite" no, that's not how it works, everyone experiences that side effect, people underreport it because they like the drug and don't want to get it taken away from reporting bad interactions. If a study says a side effect is present in 5% or 2% or whatever, then it's probably just an actual effect of the drug that everyone experiences
>>74206378Finasteride is literally a testosterone blocker. Without any (((studies))), based on the obvious effects of testosterone, one could clearly infer that it would cause sexual dysfunction and even complete behavioral change
>>74201019crabs in a bucket
>>74201019Finasteride users coping. 'It is not real' tell that to your limp penis retard
>>74200476Saw some dude using stem cells to legit regrow hair
>>74206378>take hormone blocking drug>body raises precursor hormone to increase blocked hormoneReally makes you think huh.
>>74206581/fit/ users forget about Oxycontin. goy cattle lol
>>74206590It actually stops the conversion of testosterone to DHT. It does nothing to naturally flowing test.
>>74206635>It does nothing to naturally flowing testJust because it does one thing doesn't mean it can't also do another, also DHT is a complex molecule with a wide range of effects similar and relating to testosterone
>>74206378>Our primary sex hormone is test, and that actually goes up by a few % on fin since it's not being wasted aromatizing into DHT, so getting ED from fin doesn't even make any sense.retard any /fraud/ poster will tell you that you can't have a T increase without affecting any other hormones. If you're on fin and reduce DHT by 70% your T will spike by 15% on average and so will your estradiol which is the cause of the ((rare)) gyno and ED sides. Ofc the 15% is just an average for some people it'll be less, some healthy men post bloodwork with +30% T and 2x increase in estradiol and prolactin after they started fin. Some fin users even take aromatase inhibitors to counteract that/If your est or prolactin are already high fin can push you far beyond the reference ranges and cause all kinds of shit. Stopping fin should fix any hormonal issues in 30-60 days but don't be delusional you're severely impacting your hormones and you have to be careful.Fin works for many people but don't be a retarded.
>>74206625Link?
>>74206611do kegels and you'll be fine sissy
>>74204188Why don't you just microdose fin? I get boners just fine granted they feel more numb or slightly not as strong.
>>74206780seethe and cope tranny
Life is fucking hard bros...
>>74206629>body raises precursor hormone to increase blocked hormoneIt's not surging more test to compensate, you simply just aren't wasting your free T molecules floating around that bind to the alpha-5 reductase enzyme>>74206699I never argued otherwise against anything you posted. I said testosterone is the primary male sex hormone, which is a fact, not that it's the ONLY hormone that plays a role in our bodies. An increase in testosterone is typically synonymous with an increase in sex drive, and if someone is aromatizing too much T into estradiol, they probably have some other health issue, as you yourself admitted to people having elevated levels of such prior to fin.>ProlactinDon't call someone retarded and try to make a retarded point that fin fucks with your prolactin, when 99% of men are busting daily nuts and surging prolactin high and low. You alsoDon't needTo space out your sentences Like you do on reddit
>>74200476Get your blood work done, might need to hop on clomid
>>74200476i took dut for three years and had zero sides. you probably have something else wrong with you, which i suspect all you fags whining about sides do.
>>74207110Reddit paragraphing unironically makes posts easier to read.
>>74207197Why did you stop
>>74207285i realized i didn't care if i went bald anymore and it felt gay to take pills for something that's a non-issue.
>>74203028Are you a newfag? Fin is constantly shilled here
>>74204378>any man that's bald before marriage is probably going to stay single foreverThat’s a doomer’s cope for having no personality or balls. If I listened to /fit/, I would be miserable: I’m 5’7, deaf, bald. Still got 5 gfs and 1 fwb, longest relationship was 7 years. Stop listening to crabs and spend time engaging in different activities.
>>74207420are you an indian janitor too? lol
>>74207420Massive cap. Not real, and you're a piece of shit for lying to these people.
>>74207569>>74207572Keep seething, crabs. Life’s good.
>>74207572I’m not lying. I’m almost deaf from genetics, hearing aids on both sides since I’m 5. Balding since 25. I do have pretty nice facial and physicals features tho, but more importantly I’m not a blackpilled incel. Of course on tinder I won’t get many matches if any at all, but once you’re in a friends group and go outside, do activities, go to parties, you met a lot of people and eventually you get to know a girl who match with you, despise your flaws.Women are way less vains than incels want you to believe.
Do not be scared, my children. The mystic powers you unlock at norwood 5 and beyond transcend reality
A hairdresser told me when I was 28 that I wouldn't go bald in the back, without a prompt or anything, she just felt my hair and looked at it and said it. But I've always known I would get receding temples, slowly but surely, but I've just kept it long up top and short in the back and on the sides and thought that I could just shave it closer to the temples and keep it long on the top for at least 10 more years.Now I'm 34 and my dad told me two weeks ago that it's starting to look a bit thin in the back, and sure as fuck, I basically have a bald spot there, so the plan for my hair and to an extension my life went all blown to fucking hell.
>>74207781It is what it is, anon. It sucks in the beginning, but don't despair.I started balding at 18, now 34 just like you and happily married with two kids. A friend of mine is worse off than me and married as well.Many women care less than you'd think. Don't let vapid zoomer whores on TikTok rule your mental wellbeing.
>>74207781It didn't occur to you to look into the mirror to check?
>>74207945>Many women care less than you'd think.Yeah when they're 30 and looking to settle down, fuck that.
>>74208047if you are in your 30s you will likely be looking for the same either way, or already settled down with someone you met in your 20s, so I dont see the problem.Dont tell me you are in your 30s trying to make up for what others lived in their teens and 20s? Thatd be just sad.
>>74207980Check what? I checked it in the mirror after dad told me. But it must have started recently and gone quick as fuck, because I know it wasn't there three months ago.
>>74208047I don't think the 18 year olds will be into you anyway, friend
>>74207420black(ed)pill doomcel faggots cannot fathom guys with good attitudes getting pussy
>>74208330My last relationship was with a 20 year old girl at 31, so I'm doing fine.
>>74208370Wh-what do you mean? The three recycled doomer webms certainly can't be wrong. It's reality that's wrong
>>74208409We WILL make it. Doomcrabs WILL rope.
after 2 years damage control with topical minoxidil i had to step it up and i chose topical fin because i’m a pussy.best decision ever, i usually had to try very hard not to come after like 2 minutes, now i can easily go 10+. very nice. it’s only been a month so i am not sure if it works for my hair yet but that was already worth it.
>>74205322How is hair more important than your dick? Are you retarded?
we got another one boys
When did /pol/ crossboarders become convinced that a drug that prevents testosterone => DHT conversion (by doing so increasing testosterone in the body) is a tranny drug
>>74203038Same.Ten years now.No issues.
>>74209025non balding men making fun of balding men for trying to keep their hair via pharmaceuticals (justified, but rare) or bald men who can't go back to having hair trying to convince themselves that they made the right choice by letting themselves go bald (much more common)
>>74200476>he thinks his boners are ever coming backwho's gonna tell him
>>74200476Embrace being bald. I don't get why you guys fuck with that shit. It's so bad for you.
>>74201045i took fin and it gave me erection problemsI told my doctor I had no issuesmany such cases
>>74203836a "test increase" that comes at the expense of DHT is the most midwit tier shit to celebrate
>>74205398taking finasteride as a teenager would have fucked up your life far more than going bald
>>74205373it's not just libido, it will make you less assertive/confident toobasically makes you into a beta male
>>74209068society hates bald people, men do not stand in solidarity with bald men, they are shit on for it. women will dehumanize or completely write off bald men as sexual partners 99% of the time. its a death men have to slowly endure in front of them and i think as A MAN, it makes sense to want to "fix" what is clearly a flaw, threatening your success.>>74209328people want to take away their ammo and just exist
>>74207110>An increase in testosterone is typically synonymous with an increase in sex drivenot if it comes with a reduction n DHT
there are a lot of bald men who hate finasteride here
>>74209025because it is prescribed to trannies for its feminisation effectsmostly dutasteride but sometimes findht is what causes sexual dimorphism, not testosterone
>>74207110>An increase in testosterone is typically synonymous with an increase in sex drive,sure, if it happens in isolationnot if you're also suppressing DHT by 70% - the most important hormone for sexual desire, and increasing estradiol by as much as your testhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2549675/>Serum dihydrotestosterone concentration was the only independent hormonal predictor of the frequency of orgasms; an increase in concentration of 1.36 nmol/l (about 2 SD) corresponded to an average increase of one orgasm a week>Don't call someone retarded and try to make a retarded point that fin fucks with your prolactin, when 99% of men are busting daily nuts and surging prolactin high and low.lmao the effect of ejaculation on prolactin lasts up to like 4 hours, whereas with fin you can reach permanently elevated levelsalso ejaculation during sex has a larger impact on prolactin than jerking off, if you wanna become a monk be my guestAgain finasteride isn't the devil, but you have to test your hormonal levels before hopping on and every few months / years after or you're playing a dangerous game.paragraphs are useful when you're trying to get a bunch of brainfog retards with the reading comprehension of a labrador to follow your train of thought
>>74209915it's prescribed to trannies because even they know a woman can't be bald
>>74209025fin shills love to repeat that it increases test but never mention is also increases estradiol just as much kek
>>74209885Gayest shit i heard all week. Man up faggot.
>>74209885Society does not hate bald men. Society hates weak men and the men that are obviously insecure because they are bald are considered weak.The oldest shit test is making fun of men and seeing how they respond. If you fail this test, you lose. Socializing when young is supposed to toughen you up. If you were terminally introverted/online/etc you wouldn’t have figured this out.Now you have a bunch of millennial/zoomers balding who never learned the rules of the game and are losing their damn minds and taking drugs instead of GROWING INTO MEN. Peter Pan was a warning how a guide in how to live life
>>74210076>also increases estradiolproof?
>>74210493Increasing testosterone increases estradiol. Anything that increases test by 10% will increase estrogen by 5-10%Tangent: estrogen isn’t bad as long as you aren’t out of reference range. Your body needs estrogen for heart and brain health
>>74210511i didn't ask for your broscience memeshit, i asked for proof of your claimyou claimed that fin increases estradiolproof?
>>74210493it's common sense as >>74210511 saidpic related is from this study that examines esterone, estradiol in relation to prostate cancer (what fin was created for)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139891/
>>74210533>>74210493also it says on on the label of finasteride>Finasteride produces a rapid reduction in serum DHT concentration, reaching 65% suppression within 24 hours of oral dosing with a 1-mg tablet. Mean circulating levels of testosterone and estradiol were increased by approximately 15% as compared to baselinehttps://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2011/020788s017lbl.pdf
>>74200476You psyched yourself out - that's where your boners went. Now you're going to be bald with self-inflicted ED.
>>74210668-70% DHT+15% estradiol+15% estrogen+15% testosteroneforeverthe effect of all that on your body and the spikes and lows after every dose are way more complicated than "it's just in your head bro"
>>74201019The funniest part is that anons are worried about their boners going away despite knowing that they'll never have sex in the first place
>>74210696Studies show that among the 1% who experience side effects from fin, 99% are red-pilled dyel incels who give medical advice on /fit
>>74210808It's like the anti-vaxxers worried about infertility as if any of them will or should reproduce.
>>74210829the medical advice is on the label of the prostate cancer prescription drug you're taking >>74210661 you just want to live in your fairy tale world where your actions don't have consequences because otherwise it's to hard to cope
>>74210850AnTi VaXxErOpinion irrelevant
>>74210850>>74210829funny you even mention procreation when finasteride users have to stop using fin for at least a month before trying to conceive and women have to be careful not to touch topical fin liquids / fin tablets or the risk abnormalities in the male fetus. that's also on the finasteride label that you didn't readThis is in addition to finasteride ruining your sperm count & motility and often making you infertile while you're on it>4,400 men on finasteride... The mean duration of treatment with finasteride was 57.4 months, and mean dose was 1.04 mg/day. There was an average 11.6-fold increase in sperm counts after finasteride discontinuation. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24012200/
>>74201669Balding is a disease. You don't need to take pills but you don't need to be bald either. Fix your metabolism.
>>74211337Literally isn’t, it’s a condition, you dumb faggot. Don’t use random words you don’t know.
>>74211213This is super interesting. I’ve felt like my cum has changed recently and I’ve been using fin for a while.It is much stickier in contact with water than it was before. When I cum in the shower it is super annoying to get rid of it. It sticks everywhere now.I never considered that it could be the fin because I use topical
>>74211397You are too invested in words, this is stressful to you for some reason, this is why your are bald. Go check your prolactin levels and drink your milk with copious sugar and a bit of coffee, also orange juice and the carrot salad.
The sour grapes from people that let themselves go bald is hilarious. These are probably the same guys that follow mark rippletoad, if I had to wager.
>>74211446I’m not. Dunk on baldcels as much as you want but don’t be a retarded illiterate nigger.
>>74200476Only take topical solutions to baldening as the pill affects all parts of the body>t. medical schools reject me because I'm against circumcision
>>74211465Ok fine>>74201669Balding is a condition. You don't need to take pills but you don't need to be bald either. Fix your metabolism.Happy?
>>74211483Yes, thank you. Fag.
>>74211445>I never considered that it could be the fin because I use topicalwhat concentration fin topical do you use? Topicals still go systemic but if you use low concentration you can inhibit serum hormones less than scalp DHThttps://perfecthairhealth.com/topical-finasteride-dosage/
>>74200476can you use minoxidil to grow back certain spots then use fin to stop balding AND keep the gains from minox?
>>74211546if you stop minox you lose all the scalp hairs that you gained from it, those hairs depend on minox.
>>74209328It essentially turns you into a tranny(fucks with your hormones, causes bitch tits, and stops your cock from working properly), and yet fin trannies will still cling to muh hair. No one cares. Just shave it off and lift heavy. simple as
Been on fin for a year. No side effects and my hair has grown back. Stay losing, baldcels.
>>74211620>No side effectsright, now check your hormone levels & sperm count
>>74211546The proper way to do it is to take fin only for like a year. If you're not satisfied with the hair regrowth, then start taking minoxidil too.A lot of guys make the mistake of starting both of them at the same time. Some guys grow all of their lost hair back on fin alone, but they'll never know that if they've been taking min since the beginning too. Its better to take 1 medication per day (just fin) than 2 (fin+min) if you don't have to.
>>74211620I’m on topical fin and have been for over a year. My hair is so thick my fingers get stuck in it. The dick is still good (ask your mom).
>>74211647Hair re-grows with fin?? I thought it only stopped balding but you kept the whatever parts were already hairless.
>>74200476you're all just whiny nocebo'd bitches>be a tranny>take high-dose estradiol, bicalutamide being one of the most potent antiandrogens and dutasteride because i hate these nigger hormones so much>cock refuses to stop working>>>74209919>not if you're also suppressing DHT by 70% - the most important hormone for sexual desirearomatase inhibitors suppress libido despite increasing androgens. the most important hormone for sexual desire is estradiol. you ask then "why men have higher libido". because in the brain areas responsible for libido aromatase is expressed very strongly, and men have a shitton of the precursor to estradiol, meanwhile women are cucked by cycling hormones + progesterone which suppresses libido even in male monkeys dosed simultaneously with testosterone.if finasteride and dutasteride lower libido, it's because of allopregnanolone/other progesterone-derived neurosteroids which also require 5α-reductase
>>74211568Bummer
>>74211669You do get some regrowth. If you're in the early stages of balding, fin may be the only thing you need.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4854098/>However, estradiol, the predominant form of estrogen, also plays a critical role in male sexual function. Estradiol in men is essential for modulating libido, erectile function, and spermatogenesis. Estrogen receptors, as well as aromatase, the enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen, are abundant in brain, penis, and testis, organs important for sexual function. In the brain, estradiol synthesis is increased in areas related to sexual arousal.>In men with diminished testosterone, the administration of exogenous estradiol has been shown to increase libido.6 This finding is supported by rodent studies demonstrating that castrated animals given exogenous estrogen show an increase in sexual activity in a dose- and temporal-dependent manner.7 >In 2013, Finkelstein et al. looked at the effects of testosterone and estrogen on male sexual function. They found that the administration of testosterone with and without aromatase inhibitors markedly impaired sexual function when aromatization was inhibited.18>Most compelling is the fact that in men with serum testosterone <300 ng dl-1, sexual drive was seen to be markedly higher when estradiol levels were >5 ng dl-1.it is in the fucking name... estrus + gen.
>>74210270>>74210318i feel like its only dudes with full heads of hair saying shit like this
I'm 32 and still got all of my hair with no balding at all showing, does this mean I have low test?
>>74211937depends. do you still get morning wood on a regular basis?
>>74211937Either good hair genetics (hair isn't affected by DHT) or low-test. If you're otherwise healthy and fit, don't think to much of it, consider it a blessing.
best fin brand?
>>74207945>Many women care less than you'd thinkHow's it feel being 6'4 where women can't see the top of your head anyway?
>1% chance your dick breaksI wouldn't take those odds for a million dollars. I'll johnysinnsmax if i have to. I'm not a degenerate gambler.
>>74211937no just means your hair isn't that sensitive to DHT, people can bald on low test
>>74204447It's just a coincide I love you're mom, incel
>>74204447>just a coincidence that actual trannies love this drug>trannies don't want to bald and love a drug that prevents that so this must mean it's an evil powerful estrogen (even though dutasteride nuking almost 100% serum dht doesn't shrink musculature)lol
>>74209025DHT is just as important as test for men
>>74211678Finfags screeching about "nocebo" is hilarious. Nocebo does not apply to listed medical side effects (impotence and infertility)
>>74211678pseudofag
>>74200476>start balding>take estrogen>hair is coming back>sex life improved, date with tyron later
>>74212531it does thoughhttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dth.13379>The Mondaini group28 have proved that counseling about sexual side effects generated a higher rate of sexual adverse effects due to nocebo phenomenon. One group was informed about the possible adverse effects of finasteride whereas the other arm was uninformed. The group that was informed had a 3-fold higher incidence of sexual side effects as compared to the uninformed arm.>Dutasteride and finasteride are relatively well-tolerated drugs. On comparing parameters of sexual dysfunction, primarily altered libido, erectile dysfunction, and ejaculatory disorders, there was no statistical difference between finasteride and dutasteride.19 In fact, Debruyne et al discovered that dutasteride is better tolerated, with fewer adverse events, in a study period of 4years.24 Moreover, adverse effects of 5-ARIs gradually disappear with continued treatment, over time.26, 27 A Phase III dutasteride trial demonstrated that dutasteride was well-tolerated, with a general trend toward a reduction in incidence of the most common sexual adverse reactions over a 4-year study period. Patients initiated on dutasteride therapy after 2years have a similar pattern of AEs to those starting therapy at baseline, with diminishing incidences over the 24 to 48-month period. (6.0% in year 1, 1.7% in year 2, 1.4% in year 3, and 0.4% in year 4).24
>>74212378Evidently not
btw there's an interesting study on prostate cancer patients given an androgen receptor antagonist bicalutamide which basically gives you hormonal profile of a woman, not even an eunuch. the groups were heteros and fags, and various measures of sexual functioning were taken. somehow it was the faggots who felt worse while heteros were fine. fucking imagine it. boomers with wives, forcibly trooning out due to cancer and they're fine with it, "intercourse satisfaction" even increased.https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110622045139.htm
>>74209919>the most important hormone for sexual desireRetarded. The rest of your post gets nullified by this broscience stupidity. Dut blocks DHT by 100%, and as per your own definition, nobody taking dut would ever have sexual desire (95%+ have no problem). Common DHT simp L
>>74213010nocebo phenomenon is a scam. 'Gee these men are reporting side effects they would otherwise write off because we didn't tell them gee whizz'>6% adverse effects on dutKEK
>>742132906% adverse effects. Common haircafe simp L
>>74213290>DHT is the most important hormone for sexual desire>brosciencethe study which proves it is linked just under the sentence you quoted retard. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2549675/>Serum dihydrotestosterone concentration was the only independent hormonal predictor of the frequency of orgasms; an increase in concentration of 1.36 nmol/l (about 2 SD) corresponded to an average increase of one orgasm a weekAlso ofc it's not a linear relationship retard, men on DHT derivative steroids don't orgasm 100 times a day lmao (unless?)
>>74213388>Still can't answer the questionWhy don't 100% of dut users experience ED, you absolute moron? Shouldn't a med which blocks 100% of "the most important hormone for sexual desire" in effect castrate anyone who uses it, dumbass?
>>74213644NTA it doesn't block 100% of DHT spasticated faggot.
>>74213685Another dipshit that misses the point hard. Even if it blocks 70% like fin does, or 50% or even 20%, the "most important sexual hormone" should hypothetically absolutely murder your dick if it get suppressed, but DHT inhibitors cause ED problems in barely marginal levels over control groups. DHT is vital in 2 stages of life 1) being a fetus in your mom and 2) during puberty. Afterwards, it's a junk molecule floating around that sends your hairline into the shadow realm, grows hair on your shoulders, and causes cardiac cellular damage (DHT could explain why men live on average shorter than women). Cope and seethe.
>>74211213>This is in addition to finasteride ruining your sperm count & motility and often making you infertile while you're on itBeing bald is a far superior form of male birth control
>>74200476AIIIIE CONNOR DON'T LOOK!!!
>>74201019It's just baldfags, who didn't take fin when it was time, false flagging. I've been on fin for over a year and my dick is fine.
>>74206590You are actually retarded.
>35>found out that 50% of guys are balding at some stage by 30>look around>it's unironically true>6th month into growing out my hair>already receiving compliments left and right>already noticing bald guys staring at me, reminiscing the days before the Norwood Reaper payed them a visit
>>74214543No need to hate. I don't seethe, I am happy for you.Be more like Hawk.
>>74214543*paid
>>74206791Too late for microdosing. I take dut 3 times per week and my hairline is barely hanging on as it is. If I moved to fin I'd have to take it daily to get a similar effect, and even then you can lose ground because you're fucking with hormones and that shit's complex.
>>74214628>>74206791You little niggers are doing it wrong. Grind up your fin with a mortar and pestle and dissolve it in ethanol/minoxidil solution that you can get online, then apply it topically for minimal side effects. I've been doing this for a year now, got small but noticeable regrowth, and I haven't had any noticeable side effects. I'm still just as much of a gooner as ever.
>>74214628Daily 0.25mg fin would be WAY less harsh for you hormonally than split up dut. Idk how you niggers are hopping right on dut, when it's usually considered a second line of defense when fin hasn't worked.
Do you really have to take fin for life? Has there been any studies about the long-term effects of fin?
>>74214711>Has there been any studies about the long-term effects of fin?Yephttps://www.oatext.com/Long-term-(10-year)-efficacy-of-finasteride-in-523-Japanese-men-with-androgenetic-alopecia.php#:~:text=In%20summary%2C%20long%E2%80%93term%20(,years%20of%20treatment%20with%20finasteride.
7 months on dut and hair is worse than everfuck my life
Took fin for a yearCan't maintain an erection anymore, I go limp the second I stop pumping or stroking/getting strokesBlowjobs are the most depressing thing ever nowHair ain't worth it
>>74215329how do you feel about being such a basedboy when a tranny on antiandrogenic combo like me has a perfectly working cock?
>>74213931> the body manufactures junk hormones for the sake of itwhen will fintards learn
Pls no not my hair... It's all I got...
>>74201424Every single case of finasteride side effect is perfectly reversible, even according to the FDA.
