Discovery channel editionPost all things insect and arachnid
I was wondering why I heard a lot of knocking from these boxes. Their breeding like rabbits
is myriapod acceptable?
How would you help this solitary bee?>Wet cotton swab didn't work>Powdered sugar made them panic for 15 seconds and then grabbed on again.>tweezers were ineffectivethe bee was too small for the tweezers i guess>scrape some off with a toothpickI cleaned the ass and back a bit, but not enough.Also>let bee rest at my bee hotel>crawls in hole>it's the most mite infested i had ever seen>bee gets covered in mites>it's just a brown ball of crawling mites with wingsEventually i cleaned it's ass again and let feed on a flower. It flew away a bit less infested than when i found it.
>>4786514Can you post a pic of the bee house?
>>4786514the powdered sugar seems like the path but youd also have to use a brush it seems
>>4786522I tried to the remove the tube, but it's a bit stuck.
I love these little guys so much, angry little murder machines.I used to have a medium-intense fear of insects or arthropods in general but lately I find them really beautiful. Specially beetles or any colorful lil' dudes.>>4786466Absolutely.
Aight so I'm new around these parts, so please excuse my ignorance, but what are some insect species that you love for their aesthetics? I really love the venezuelan poodle moth, they look so cute and fluffy. Some venezuelan friends of mine used to tell me they'd get a heart attack when they saw these dudes flying around since they're kind of big.
>>4786466please no
>>4786550Most moths are really cool. Some of the best and most unique colorations and patterns in the animal kingdom imo
>>4786550That image is a needle-felted piece of art right? Right?
>>4786553I swear moths are so fucking funky for some unknown reason. I have no idea why many of these guys evolved to look so pretty aside of obviously being a visual queue of "don't eat me, I'm poisonous", but I respect them. >>4786554Hold on, lemme get another pic, but these guys are REAL. I couldn't believe it either but somehow, real life animals are even weirder than actual pokémon.
>>4786514Gross. How the hell does that happen
>>4786554I have no idea how they exist but they do. They look really fluffy though!
>>4786554Oops but yes, that one image is a fake. But the real ones are still just as cute. Sorry for spamming.
>>4786553That image isn't real right? This one is
>>4786557The mites latch onto the bees when they collect nectar and pollen. The bees make walls inside tubes and secure their pollen inside, but the mites eat pollen and reproduce inside their nests and eat pollen meant for the bee it's offspring.
i love moths
Resident mothfag incoming>>4786550Unfortunately the Venezuelan poodle moth isn’t real. >>4786554 is right, this picture is a needle-felted art piece. The idea of the Venezuelan poodle moth came when a guy posted a picture of a fluffy moth he saw in Venezuela. He gave the image a placeholder name of “Venezuelan poodle moth” until somebody identified it as an Artace species. >>4786559 and >>4786563 are bombyx mori, the domestic silkmoth, a species domesticated by humans for silk production (the caterpillars produce silk cocoons which are harvested). >>4786553This is a photoshopped picture of a male lymantria dispar>>4786556This is a photoshopped picture of Automeris larra, picrel is what they actually look like
>>4786514What if you were to catch it and put it in the fridge for a while so it “falls asleep”? Then I’d imagine you could quickly remove them with a small paintbrush
>>4786597I should get a setup like that, with clear tunes, it'd be a lot nicer to know whether or not they're filled with bees or spiders
>>4787913That poodle moth thing looks like a walnut mouth or whatever the big motherfuckers in the southern US are called. The ones whose cocoons look like cat turds.
>>4787931Nonporous tunnels like glass or plastic can trap moisture and make the pollen rot and attract pests.
>>4786514Are there any beneficial things that nites do? Why can't we just exterminate them all
>>4787988Velvet mites are cute and eat pest bugs that harm crops.
>>4788022I have never seen a redder animal
>>4788022>>4788034Really though he was bleeding from a deep wound lol
I love tarantulas
>>4788034One day we'll figure out why they call them red velvet mites.
>>4787913>He gave the image a placeholder name of “Venezuelan poodle moth” until somebody identified it as an Artace species.OOOOOOH, so it's just a different species- Holy shit I was flabbergasted, since some venezuelan friends have told me they've seen those lil' guys flying around. >domestic silkmoth, a species domesticated by humans for silk productionHoly shit, nice. I have no idea about bugs or entomology in general, so thank you for kindly correcting me. >This is a photoshopped picture of Automeris larra, picrel is what they actually look likeDamn, they still look just as beautiful. It's hard as a person who doesn't know anything about bugs (and had a slight phobia of them growing up) recognizing which are real and which are fake.I'll start looking by species' names as to not get baited into fake moth appearances, lmao. Apparently this is the False Tiger Moth or the Dysphania militaris. Very, very pretty.
>>4788022This is ironically what I thought viruses looked like as a kid. Lmao>>4788075Same, the desert blonde tarantulas are so pretty. I would scream like a bitch if I saw one randomly in person, but still, a wonderful lil' bug. Well, arachnid.
>>4788146They taste like red velvet cake.
>>4788303They're apparently quite spicy.
I am thinking of getting a new pet invertebrate, but I am not sure what to get. I have kept snails before, but that's it. Does anyone have any experience or advice for a relatively simple insect to care for? I was thinking perhaps an antlion since they're so low maintenance, but they are quite small and I'd like something a little bigger, and one guests can actually see.
>>4788342>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY4p8zauYlQ&list=PL8dHtCTLVfFNsrIMDwAVC5fncEXLTwIkD&index=7Blue death feigning beetles, and other desert darklings, would be a good choice.Cheap and easy to care for and get a hold of, and they do well with other beetles or even velvet ants in the same enclosure.They're very hardy, and survive on whatever plant or bug scraps they can find in the wild. They're also relatively long lived.
>>4788390Also, being nonpredaceous beetles, they are of course very goofy, and get up into antics.
>>4788390to add onto this, if you don't have to worry about grubby fingers grabbing them, velvet ants are also a really interesting option and are incredibly active, moving around the enclosure nearly constantly. Super cheap too. Just... don't get stung.
>>4788439Yeah, they're super cool. They're basically little hummingbirds.You can feed them with two 'giant' size ant feeders filled with water. One with sugar/honey, and one with a pinch of salt.btw the sting sounds scary because of the pain, but it isn't toxic
>>4788291>It's hard as a person who doesn't know anything about bugs (and had a slight phobia of them growing up) I understand 100%. I used to be disgusted and freaked out by moths, now I’ve got a dozen sleeping in my bedroom. Here’s a male Anisota virginiensis that emerged in my hand yesterday. It makes me feel like a mother when they emerge in my hand kek
>>4788619That the cow killer? Here's one at Dulles airport.
>>4788651NO WAY, that fellow is so fucking cute! If anything, I'm kind of more afraid the smaller the bug is. Because if it's big it probably won't easily get lost in one of my eyes, mouth, or enter my nose or ears. Like, a tarantula is fast, alright, but it won't get stuck in my eyes unless it's kicking hairs at me (which is NOT what anyone wants). And it's probably more scared of me than I could be of it. Unless it's a thailand black. Those... Those are something.>>4788619The more colorful a insect looks the more painful it's possible bite/attacks looks to me. The mantis shrimp so far is the perfect example of my instinct.
Can mealworms and dubia roaches live together, in the sense that the mealworms won't try to eat the dubias?
>>4788986MANTIS SHEIMP AINT INSECT. Neither is OP. Isopodaaaa FTW
Love these little goofy niggas like you wouldn't believe
>>4788986>that fellow is so fucking cute!I will tell him you said soI agree about the bug size thing, it’s too easy to lose track of tiny fast bugs. I’m not gonna lose the lady in picrel easily. Her abdomen is SO soft, like down feathers
>>4787913based moth bro. thanks for the neat facts.
>>4786544The modern beehouse design is inefficient and needs to be changed for maximum efficiency, make it have easy interchangeable parts and tubes
https://youtu.be/ZBxo8f0Kju8?si=gh9HJuuYmYz8SOVfhttps://youtu.be/rqxklZO_vsA?si=vD3RTLESuFcHlcFmThese are great introductory videos to invertebrate paleontology.
His so hungry, I can't wait to feed it adult cockroaches. Has anybody had an experience with those temu spider enclosures? Are they escape proof?
>>4789282It's a spider, not a raccoon.Are there holes in it that are bigger than its abdomen? Does it look like it'll fall apart if a breeze hits it?When I kept a black widow, I just bought a ballot box.It had a door with a lock, and a slot for dripping water.
>>4789287Yeah but it is a green bellied huntsman, only a sling but my family is terrified of it. the last thing I want is for it to escape and someone swat it.
>>4789205wait>looks at taxonomical groups quick>both insecta and isopoda are in the arthropoda phylumfuck that's why I was like "wait aren't crustaceans insects" but no, not necessarilywait 2>looks at arthropod orders>pancrustaceans >barnaclesbarnacles are arthropods? wut?>>4789214bro looks like a Z someone wrote when they were really drunk>>4789223thank you I hope he pollinates a thousand flower bitches>I’m not gonna lose the lady in picrel easily. Her abdomen is SO soft, like down feathersI've seen in some species of moths that they don't have mouths and live very short lifespans, like 2 weeks. How come they don't have any- mouth appendages to consume food? Isn't it counter-intuitive?
>>4789287>It's a spider, not a raccoon.don't underestimate spiders man, they just teleport>>4789447specially huntsman spidersas long as it doesn't have big holes and the lid is properly sealed/closed I doubt it could escape too easilynow if you take the lid off it may go vroooom
>>4789558Look at the larval forms of barnacles and most of the weird crustaceans and you'll see they're even weirder if you realize their starting point isn't really that odd.
>>4789563I swear sometimes looking at regular animals feels like looking at aliens, animals and plants in general are weird once you really think about them. Like how the fUCK did they evolve to become such specific lil' weirdos. Adorable lil' weirdos like pic rel, a ghost crab or Ocypode ceratopthalmus.
>>4789572Because chaos crystallizes into order rapidly then emerges again
Anyone know what this is? Found him on my porch.
>>4789839wheel bug nymph
>>4789853ty anon
>>4789575love these little guys
>>4789558I’m enjoying the opportunity to talk this much about moths>I've seen in some species of moths that they don't have mouths and live very short lifespans, like 2 weeksYes, silkmoths don’t have developed mouthparts so they can’t eat. As caterpillars of course they eat loads, but as moths their only purpose is to reproduce. >How come they don't have any- mouth appendages to consume food? Isn't it counter-intuitive?Not eating lets them put all their focus on mating. A surprising number of insects work like this, where they eat in the early stages of life, then once they become adults they don’t eat, just bone. Crane flies and sawflies do this. All the species of moths I raise are silkmoths so they have very short lives as adults
Do you fellas mind if I post a picture of a wasp I just killed
>>4790883Depends. Do you want an ID or are you just bragging
>>4788022crunchy berries
>>4790947Mostly bragging but I guess an ID wouldn't hurt.
>>4790997Took video of it too. I like how the abdomen pulsates.
>>4788022Wtf since when did they get that big? I only ever saw them speck sized on bricks
This is easily the worst thread on 4chan.
>>4791033that guy's just really small
>>4791033Those are probably sidewalk mites.The huge version of them only emerges after rain.
>>4791076but enough about the dog general
Does anyone knows what kind of spider is this, got bitten (probably) by a baby one when cleaning the yard, living in Mexico right now (central region)I'm I about to die painfully?
>>4791729maybe a false widow - Steatoda grossa
>>4791729Most definitely a false black widow.Not totally harmless but it's probably fine, shouldn't feel anything after a couple days.
>>4791734Ain't no way I browsed dozens of inaturalist photos and picked the same god damn picture...well here's a different one
>>4791734>>4791741>>4791744Thanks guys, always nice to know that I'm not dying from a spider bite
>>4791767You've got plenty more spider bites ahead of you, don't worry.
>>4788022No fuckin way dude i saw one of these years ago on a hike in the bunya mountains and i had no clue what it was and couldn't find anything when i looked it up. i love them
>>4787915Sounds like a good idea, but i haven't seen any new mite ridden bee yet since then
I bought dubia roaches. I saw an ootheca come out of a females ass. How long till they give birth? I want to see lots of little dubia roach nymphs squirming around.
>>4793130THIS IS A FETISH POST
Moth
snail such a leech
>>4793133you don’t say? lol
Fat slug I found while gardening
A huge carpenter bee (Xylocopa violacea) just flew over my house. It sounds scary, but it's cute as fuck and it let me take a good picture of him, before flying out.
>>4794909I love carpenter bees even though they destroy my deck railings. They’re lucky they’re so cute. The bottom right picture is great
Saw this fella the other day.
>>4794004CHUBBY>>4794909I appreciate bees, but I have a complete terror of wasps. Those guys are just filled with the rage of one thousand suns. >>4795620Holy shit that's a huge fella. I think I'd probably crap myself if I saw an insect that big outta nowhere, but then I'd try to keep it comfy in my house. >>4790867Sheesh, sorry for disappearing for so long mothanon, I had a very busy week. It kinda makes sense now as to why some bugs have such short lives, huh. I saw a lot, and a LOT of ladybugs this week in an apartment I was in. They're supposedly a sign of good luck, and they were too small for my phone to picture them correctly.
>>4786544If you can't remove the tube stuff it with something or seal it somehow
>>4796431I feel like wasps get a worse rap than they deserve. if you treat them well, like you offer food or save one from dying, they remember you and are pretty friendly. I remember watching a video of some guy keeping pet wasps at some point. Personally, I've never been stung by a live wasp, even when they come check me out. They're smarter than they seem.
>>4796819Oh, I know they're really freaking smart, that's what creeps me out about them. I definitely don't want to anger one, specially since they seem to be able to hold grudges and even communicate those grudges with their hive. spooky smart bastards, but I value their job as pollinators. I do wonder, do they kill bees?
>>4796928wasps are carnivores, so i imagine they probably kill whatever little prey they can get their hands on. I know those giant asian hornets invade beehives to try and eat their larva.
>>4796928Actually, on the topic of intelligence, I'd like to point out these little guys. velvet worms aren't bugs, but they're closely related, and they're so interesting that it makes me sad we haven't done much research on them. apparently they can live in family units or packs, have complex social hierarchies, and rivalries between packs. they really act like barely anything else does in panarthropoda. I wish we knew more about them.
>>4796431Sorry you had a busy week anon, hope things are smoother this week. I ended up buying a cheap $10 macro lens attachment so I could get clear pictures of bugs, it’s nothing fancy but it works. Looking forward to using it to get better pictures of my freshly hatched caterpillars>>4796968There was an anon on here before who kept these as pets, he said he could only observe them under red light in the dark because they hide from the light.
wasps are cool
>>4796819>they remember you and are pretty friendly.that seems more than unlikely
>>4796968>>4796977>There was an anon on here before who kept these as pets, he said he could only observe them under red light in the dark because they hide from the light.Now THIS I’m interested in, I think velvet worms are pretty cool, that they have fangs and can spew out some weird sticky substance to entrap prey is cool
>>4797575Try it! and don't swat at wasps just because they fly near you, sometimes they just do that to check you out (still wouldjt let it land on me without some food to bribe it with, though).
>>4786514Honestly if that were me I'd just want to be put out of my misery
Anyone here keep tarantulas? Been wanting to get into the hobby, after looking into different species I think A. Geniculata is what I'll start with, the large size and high activity is what I want most out of a tarantula. I'm just worried about handling its enclosure, I feel like I'll miss something obvious for it.>>4796968Such an underrated animal, they have practically no mobility and can only move an inch or two per minute but their slime is such an effective trap that they are still efficient predators.
Heading out to the mountain park near me tonight to see if I can find any cool critters out there, hopefully I'll get some good photos>>4797762Been keeping them for a few years now, I've not kept that species but it's supposed to be a good species to start with as long as you don't mind it potentially being a little feisty and having some nasty urticating hairs. Do you have an enclosure set up yet? If so post a picture and I'll check it out and let you know what I think or even if you could just describe how you're planning to set it up I can critique that too
>>4797770Not yet, still trying to figure out a buyer for the tarantula itself and the enclosure. While it being a bit feisty concerned me I think I can deal with it as I don't have any interest in handling it outside of necessary rehousing, I totally get why people like doing so but it's not something I necessarily care about. I'm happy to watch it from the enclosure, as long as I can see it out and about most of the time and give a good feeding response that's all I need from it. The only thing really leaving me disappointed is simple pattern, my second choice right now is the GBB since I love the colors and webbing of them but the shorter lifespan and smaller size put me off a bit. Ideally I would love to have both but I don't want to get on the slippery slope that easily and decided I'll stick to one starting out.
Every time I see a molted dubia in my terrarium it scares the shit out of me. It's like a white alien that appeared seemingly out of nowhere.
>>4797762what if it runs away and u can't find it
>>4797958Something that doesn't translate to pictures is just how loud tarantulas can be.They're not really that stealthy, you'd be able to find an escaped T in your home fairly easily, just by listening for the noises their huge bodies make when they move around.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfB-2u4gIvYThis is an example of what I'm talking about. It's actually surprising how loud they are when you see them in real life.
>>4797958I'm planing to stick to NW species which are a lot slower, it's mostly the OW species that will just teleport from one place to the next which is just one of several reasons they're suggested only for veterans. For the most part tarantulas are pretty passive, they would rather hide in their burrows or kick a few hairs and escape then stick around anywhere.
>>4798121> which is just one of several reasons they're suggested only for veteransWhat are the other reasons
>>4798213more potent venom which can be pretty serious with some species (Asian and Australian species and African arboreals in particular are nasty) plus often a much more defensive or bolty attitude compared to a lot of new worlds which are often slower and more relaxedThat said there are some new world species that are just as fast or defensive but without as potent of a bite but they're more the exception than the rule
>>4798213The reasons I've generally been seeing:>more aggressive, NW tarantulas are pretty docile and will only give threat poses or kick hairs if you happen to really scare them. OW tarantulas are much more prone to view your actions as threats and attack in self defense >on top of the above point they generally have stronger venom so bites from them are a lot more painful, long lasting, and a few even medically significant for humans.>husbandry is more difficult. Most NWs generally are easy to care for and don't ask a lot in terms of things like light/ventilation/temperture, even if not ideal they usually can handle anything comfortable enough for a person. OWs can be a lot more picky and require highly specific needs that if not met will kill them.>more expensive, since they come from farther and are more difficult to breed prices for OW species are generally higher then most NW species. Some NW species are so common and cheap that they're given as freebies with other tarantulas, you cannusually get like two or three NWs for the price of a OW.>not really a "problem" but they generally grow slower, which can be frustrating in terms of seeing them grow and makes hunger strikes more difficult to assess.Obviously no one can stop you from buying one and people have used them to enter the hobby but it's unwise to do so unless you really feel dedicated to seeing that species' needs met.
cicadas are the best buges
my favorite bug right here
Has anybody ever kept a Miturgidae spider? I collected this girl on a night hike yesterday and when I came home to do some research for her care I found that there does not exist online a single record of anyone having kept one of these so it's possible I might be pioneering a new captive spider family hereI've got her set up like any other desert dwelling active hunter spider for now but if anybody has some experience with this I'd love some input
>>4786466Yes
>>4798659They like a piece of bark that they can construct a silk retreat under
>>4798667Gave her exactly that with some dry sandy substrate and a small water dish and plenty of room to roam around and hunt so I hope she'll settle in nicely
>>4796968Holy shit these guys are so pretty, they kinda look like some sea slugs. And weird plushies. I'm actually really surprised some bugs- or even animals in general that are so slow or small can have such amazing intelligences/or skills. Or that they can be so violent somehow...>>4796977Thank you! This week was a bit of a wreck for me emotionally, but I'm recovering. Also holy shit that bug is small. I see a lot of butterflies in my neighbourhood, specially yellow ones. Even though it's almost winter...?>>4797762Haven't personally kept any tarantulas because I don't have the space- or well, a safe enough space for the T to just chill in. But BE CAREFUL OF THEIR URTICATING HAIRS. If they're feisty or in a bad mood let them be, you don't want any of those going in your nose or eyes. Be careful with mites and moss creating fungus, those could make your T sick. >>4797964theyMAKE FOOTSTEPSOUNDS?????????ASIDE OF HISSING THEY MAKE SOUNDS WHEN THEY WALK?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFzCxs-0ZnM
anyone know what these are? they're like half the size of a grain of rice and I've never seen such an influx of them before. I keep my kitchen window open due to the heat but they keep appearing
>>4798909flour beetle?
Turns out my male jumping spider is not able to pierce through the armour of a juvenile woodlouse.
>>4799195
>>4798891>ASIDE OF HISSING THEY MAKE SOUNDS WHEN THEY WALK?Wait till you hear about rattlesnake tarantulas
>>4799195>>4799201… doesn’t that make him kinda wimpy?
>>4798659Watch her closely if you took her from the wild, likely has parasites.
>>4799201My god he's cute. give him lots of tasty treats for me
>>4799526the spider is a she considering it's carrying the kids on it's back
